American Bulldog Experiment Candidate #2

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American Bulldog Experiment Candidate #2

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This is a 3 1/2 inch Cimarron Sheriff’s Model.

The action is much smoother and the trigger is much better than the Ruger. Can’t wait to see how it shoots.
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I definitely like the feel of the one piece grips and the gun seems to point more naturally than the Ruger. The front sight is very thin and it looks like it has been left plenty tall. 270-SAA bullets are loaded over 8 grains of Unique.
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Now THAT I like.

Truthfully, I have never really liked the common Ruger NM grip or trigger.
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First modification was to replace that thumb screw with a regular screw.
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That's pretty sporty, I like it.

Sarge, if it's the XR3-RED grip frame you're talking about, I totally agree. Objectively, seems to me that it puts the balance way out front while managing to make recoil worse than with the old Colt SAA-dimensioned frame. On the other hand, I like the NM trigger, go figure.
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Very cool, looking forward to see how it shoots. Those 270s w/ 8 gr. of Unique should be a pretty good thumper!

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I have several Cimarron’s made by Uberti. They have all been good revolvers that shoot quite well.
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Sarge wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:14 pm
Now THAT I like.

Truthfully, I have never really liked the common Ruger NM grip or trigger.
I'm with you there. I have one of the NM Super Blackhawks with the 3 3/4" barrel and that short grip. Man does that sucker kick hard! I can shoot my Old Model .44 Magnum all day with the same load and enjoy every bit of it. The new one is on loan with my dad for now. It fits him better that it does me.

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I don't want to hijack Scott's thread so I'll start another one on the NM grip.
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For some reason the SAA grip is fine in my big mits for .357, .44 Special (up to Skeeter levels) and .45 Colt.

For heavier loads, I like the Ruger Bisley gripframe. Unfortunately, my .44 Special Bisley is at Bobby Tylers getting a Freedom Arms style front sight attached.

One piece grips, particularly when they are smooth feel much better in my hands on a SAA. Standard hard rubber grips on a USFA are not comfortable for me.
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Scott, I have one similar, the Uberti Cattleman Sabre in .45 Colt.

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(Not a photo of mine; a stock photo).

I really like it. Mated it with a DeSantis "Doc Holiday" holster. Really is a nice package.

Looking forward to the range report! :D
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That's really pretty! I can see an advantage of the birdshead grip for concealment. However, the way I hold a SAA, it feels like I'm missing something. But I must confess to never having fired a single round with such a grip frame.

God is blessing us with rain this morning. But I think I'll be able to get out on Saturday to do my intial live fire testing.
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I was correct in presuming that Cimarron left the front sight plenty high.

First five rounds.
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Second five.
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Same load with the Hornady 255 grain swaged cowboy bullet.
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Recoil was comfortable. Just a few strokes of the file ought to have it shooting to the sights.
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Been waitin' for this thread, and I am not disappointed. 8)
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How about a side by side comparison photo of the two?
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Here you go:
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Almost identical in size. Here they are in comparison with my 686 Mountain Gun.
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Sweet pair of pistolas. I like the Cimarron just a smidge more. :)
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I actually like the Cimarron quite a bit more. But I don't want to make a hasty decision.
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Scott,

Is that Cimmaron a three inch? Sure is purdy.
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Catshooter wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:04 pm
Scott,

Is that Cimmaron a three inch? Sure is purdy.
3 1/2 inch and the Ruger is 1/4 inch longer.
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I wondered. The factory stock photos make the pistol look unbalenced (the barrel too short for the butt) but yours don't. Nice looking rollers.
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Catshooter wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:27 pm
I wondered. The factory stock photos make the pistol look unbalenced (the barrel too short for the butt) but yours don't. Nice looking rollers.
It does not feel unbalanced in the hand. Feels pretty good actually.
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Scott Tschirhart wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:25 pm
I actually like the Cimarron quite a bit more. But I don't want to make a hasty decision.
I'm going merely on looks. You've had the fortunate experience of coonfingering them both. :D That Cimarron in 44 Spl would be... special. Now I feel like a brit saying "it was as smooth as a smooth thing". :lol:
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AmBraCol wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:34 am
Scott Tschirhart wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:25 pm
I actually like the Cimarron quite a bit more. But I don't want to make a hasty decision.
I'm going merely on looks. You've had the fortunate experience of coonfingering them both. :D That Cimarron in 44 Spl would be... special. Now I feel like a brit saying "it was as smooth as a smooth thing". :lol:
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Scott Tschirhart wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:21 am
That's really pretty! I can see an advantage of the birdshead grip for concealment. However, the way I hold a SAA, it feels like I'm missing something. But I must confess to never having fired a single round with such a grip frame.

God is blessing us with rain this morning. But I think I'll be able to get out on Saturday to do my intial live fire testing.
I do prefer the traditional grip, but the bird's head is a bit easier to conceal.
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