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Interesting, not the most attractive but interesting.
I could almost smell the smoke in the video... :mrgreen:
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...not the most attractive but interesting.
Agreed.

It looks a handgun I used to draw way back in the 3rd or 6th grade -- that did not get me expelled, sent to counseling or brought up on criminal threatening charges. :wink:

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Offered with a ".44 LC conversion cylinder" ..... ?
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JimT wrote:
Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:55 am
Offered with a ".44 LC conversion cylinder" ..... ?
I saw that too. Was just looking at the 44 Colt round so seeing it labeled as "LC" was a bit of a jolt.
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AmBraCol wrote:
Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:52 am
JimT wrote:
Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:55 am
Offered with a ".44 LC conversion cylinder" ..... ?
I saw that too. Was just looking at the 44 Colt round so seeing it labeled as "LC" was a bit of a jolt.
I believe they meant "45 LC" since the .44 Remington is actually a .45 caliber.
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JimT wrote:
Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:23 am
AmBraCol wrote:
Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:52 am
JimT wrote:
Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:55 am
Offered with a ".44 LC conversion cylinder" ..... ?
I saw that too. Was just looking at the 44 Colt round so seeing it labeled as "LC" was a bit of a jolt.
I believe they meant "45 LC" since the .44 Remington is actually a .45 caliber.
True. I'd not yet got around to THAT angle yet, having just been looking at the 44 Colt and cogitating on it a bit. Just can't get past the healed bullet. Weird, I know, but the 480 Achilles appeals to me more than the 44 Colt. Yes, it's just a smidge larger diameter, but the bullets used in it (the ones I've seen anyway) look more "businesslike" than the pointy 44 Colt.

Anyway, back to the "44 LC", now I'm REALLY curious as to what it is since the "44 Colt" was actually a 45 caliber, designed for use in bored through 1860 cylinders for the conversions Colt used until S&W's patent expired on the cylinder style necessary for the next step in modernizing sixguns. Did they mess up and call the 44 Colt a "44 LC" and the guns are actually chambered for the 44 Colt, or did they mess up and call a 45 Colt a "44 LC". The difference ain't TOO much between the two cartridges (diameter wise) but the difference between healed and inside lubricated is important.
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Old No7 wrote:
Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:46 am
gamekeeper wrote:
Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:37 am
...not the most attractive but interesting.
Agreed.

It looks a handgun I used to draw way back in the 3rd or 6th grade -- that did not get me expelled, sent to counseling or brought up on criminal threatening charges. :wink:

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That confounded tomcat and his slimey little pal has been at the mastercard again.....
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Little buggers! :D

Can't wait to hear how it shoots!

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Deoiled and loaded.....
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I've never messed with those pellets. I'm guessing 30 grain equivalent? Maybe 25? (See? I'm not even sure what increments they come in!) I like the look of that slug though. Should be a very effective projectile.
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AmBraCol wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:06 am
I've never messed with those pellets. I'm guessing 30 grain equivalent? Maybe 25? (See? I'm not even sure what increments they come in!) I like the look of that slug though. Should be a very effective projectile.
https://hodgdon.com/pyrodex-44-45-calib ... l-pellets/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dn9xjnQaff8

https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/pr ... uctId/5618

https://cowboybullets.3dcartstores.com/ ... _c_11.html

Bullets loaded backwards for wadcutter effect.....
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Interesting. So I was right on my first guess, 30 grain equivalent. Someday I need to pick up another Lee conical mold for my Old Army. That was a good projectile back in the day. In the meantime I soldier on with roundballs, which are nothing to sneeze at. I also need to spend more time with the Pietta 1860. Never did any load development other than "dump in powder, seat ball, smear with Crisco". That is one SMOOTH handling pistola.
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Old No7 wrote:
Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:46 am
gamekeeper wrote:
Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:37 am
...not the most attractive but interesting.
Agreed.

It looks a handgun I used to draw way back in the 3rd or 6th grade -- that did not get me expelled, sent to counseling or brought up on criminal threatening charges. :wink:

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JimT wrote:
Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:23 am
AmBraCol wrote:
Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:52 am
JimT wrote:
Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:55 am
Offered with a ".44 LC conversion cylinder" ..... ?
I saw that too. Was just looking at the 44 Colt round so seeing it labeled as "LC" was a bit of a jolt.
I believe they meant "45 LC" since the .44 Remington is actually a .45 caliber.
I'm sure they did given the bore dimensions.

Interesting. Mike Belliveau (sp?), a.k.a. "duelist54" on YouTube (and prolific gun author) did a project several years back cutting back a 1858 into a bulldog style gun. He also fitted it with a .45 Colt conversion cylinder and made a loading port in the recoil shield. This is practically that gun.
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This thing is simply a 1858 pietta with a three inch barrel and no loading lever. It is what it is and no aberration. The only difference with the longer barreled guns is the shorter barrel and absent loading lever and the added cylinder pin latch.
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Still thinking this is pretty slick.

Stupid question; can you press the bullets in by hand or do you need one of those loading stands I've seen advertised for BP revolvers?

I've had a '51 Navy since I was about 10, but it's the only BP revolver I've had.

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The balls/bullets you need to use are going to require some effort to load and will have to be loaded with the cylinder off of the frame. Protect the front of the cylinder by cushioning it against working surface with a scrap of leather.

Any one of the several purposefully designed presses you mentioned will work.

I loaded this one with an initial thwack of a mallet then finally seated with a tap-tap-tap of a 3/8" brass rod.

Final seating with a muzzleloader ball starter or a wooden dowel are useful options. As is a howell .45 colt conversion cylinder !

This one is more versatile (multiple calibers) and of a better design than those offered by the italian manufacturers.....

https://rmcoxyoke.com/product/rmc-revol ... ing-stand/

Initial seating flush with the cylinder mouth with a non-marring mallet will save wear on it and make it last longer.
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Cool!
Thanks Ray!

There has been a guy on gunbroker making Sheriff style revolvers out of older Italian copies. Thought some of them were pretty cool. He doesn't have any up right now, but I'll keep watching.

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2ndovc wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:25 am
Cool!
Thanks Ray!

There has been a guy on gunbroker making Sheriff style revolvers out of older Italian copies. Thought some of them were pretty cool. He doesn't have any up right now, but I'll keep watching.

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Appears to be in-stock.....

https://taylorsfirearms.com/hand-guns/1 ... inder.html

And the ace.....

https://taylorsfirearms.com/hand-guns/1858-the-ace.html
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