.44 Special Skeeter Rifle load

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Scott Tschirhart
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.44 Special Skeeter Rifle load

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I've always been a fan of the cast Keith bullets and it has bothered me that I cannot get my favored bullet to run in my 1873 Uberti. However, while loading up a batch of ammo for shooting this morning on the ranch, I reflected on my experience with a more traditional style bullet and I'm not exactly sure why I was so bothered.

My favorite bullet for the .45-70 is a 500gr round nose "Government" style bullet. I never had any complaint about performance on any game animal I ever used it on. My .50-70 shoots an even more pointed bullet and it kills like a hammer.

The traditional .45 Colt bullet is not a flat point, but the west was won with cast flat point bullets in .44-40 and .38-40 rifles. I've killed a lot of animals with a .38 and .357 revolvers with cast loads.

So, I was shooting some 250 gr RNFP and 250 gr Keith bullets out to 100 yards in a .44 Special SAA and noticed that at 100 yards, I was much more effective with the RNFP. Both loads were charged with 7.5 gr of Unique and a Russian primer.

Then I came home and read an article Mike Venturino wrote for Handloader Magazine:

http://docshare01.docshare.tips/files/2 ... 991591.pdf

[Starting on Page 42]. I may need to re-think my ideas about effective bullets.
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Re: .44 Special Skeeter Rifle load

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My 1873 feeds the two on the left perfectly. The two on the right are not compatible.
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Meplats are similar.

Top left is the MBW 250 gr LFN

Top right is a RNFP

Bottom is the MBW Keith.
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Thanks for posting that, Scott.
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Re: .44 Special Skeeter Rifle load

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I've always used the RNFP in 45 Colt, 44-40, and 38-40 with good results.
I like the Keith bullets too, but for whatever reason, I don't use them in the above 3 chamberings.
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I'm kind of thinking that I may not be giving up anything by going to the LFN bullet over the Keith.
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That was some good information. Thanks for posting it.

I used a round nose flat point with a very small flat area out of my .45-70 on an Oryx one time. I was very disappointed with the results. I have not used those bullets on anything other than paper since that time. That article helps me to understand why a medium-large deer sized animal seemed to show little reaction to a hit from a 325 grain lead bulled out of a .45-70.
I do have plenty of lead .40 caliber bullets. As most of them are round nose, I should not use them for hunting.
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Re: .44 Special Skeeter Rifle load

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I shoot the Lee 255rnfp in my 45 Colt Marlin Cowboy. Performance is excellent. Clays at 110 yards are monotony. I've taken a truckload of whitetails and axis with it, all one shot kills. I tried the Keith boolits in my 357 Cowboy to no avail, settling on the 125rnfp. My search is over for both. I'll bet your 44 Special will do the same.
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Re: .44 Special Skeeter Rifle load

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my lever guns feed truncated cone bullets better than a curved ogive, so that's all i load from cast. the browning 86 loves shooting the 460 cast performance, I think, but doesn't like to feed them. put marshall's truncated cone cast in there and they slide right in. i think miroko have a reputation to being a little crotchety.

as far as round nose, like 45 ACP Ball, I don't hunt with them because of an article I read somewhere that that bullet shape is more likely to deflect than the flat meplat. i can't source that so it's an unsubstantiated rumor, but it's how i roll.

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Some deer is liable to be in trouble if it stands still at 100 yards or so this year.
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