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Adam Neely explaining some very nuanced music theory.

Anyone besides Blaine at this level of music understanding?

This is all news to me, but richly rewarding to contemplate.

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LIke most people, I "feel" it, but don't ask me to explain it.
I just follow the little black flyspecks on the paper. :lol:
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i learned a 1-4-5 progression on bass and once could cover a 12-bar blues. or 11-bar even.

but my incredibly tiny understanding of music increased in respect an order of magnitude listening to the explanation of what's happening in that particular music.

f sounds alright to me Ray, but i am tone deaf.
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You can feel it but you can't explain it.
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tried to follow but CAN'T FIND THE CHORD WHEEL ! ! ! but thanks for posting, it helps to hear music
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Sometimes, the passing tones will hold your hand and lead you around. So many changes in this one. I usually get a little dust in my eyes near the end.
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Blaine wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:06 pm Good music is like candy....THROW AWAY THE RAPPERS. 8)
Good one! I'd not heard that before but will share it with many others.

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Hey Ray

found my chord wheel ! ! !
gmaj - f maj - d maj
looks reasonable on the chord wheel f#m is the vii of g maj so, i suppose, i guess, that F is in line. but i know Nothing about it. I can't hear it, although i can hear 1-4-5 changes coming up. the only chord combo i can 'hear'..

I'm trusting i'll get a glorified voice when i get to where i'm going to. [only song lyric i ever wrote] {just popped out}

i'm laughing at myself real good now
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I have to say I enjoyed the video. Although it's been over 30 years since my last music theory class in grad school and some of the terms have changed I thought he did a fantastic job of explaining explaining chord progressions and modulations. I'm going to have to watch more of his videos.
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DadsMod12 wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:53 pm I have to say I enjoyed the video. Although it's been over 30 years since my last music theory class in grad school and some of the terms have changed I thought he did a fantastic job of explaining explaining chord progressions and modulations. I'm going to have to watch more of his videos.
thanks for saying that. i thought his presentation was brilliant. if i had a music teacher like that i would still be tone deaf, but my vocabulary would be amplified. i'm going to watch more of his stuff too. beats just about EVERYTHING on tv
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Thanks Ray

even though I am clueless about music theory, I have a cheat-sheet that says that Dmaj is the IV-chord of Gmaj

seems right to me

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Ray wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:51 am
Grizz wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:42 am Thanks Ray

even though I am clueless about music theory, I have a cheat-sheet that says that Dmaj is the IV-chord of Dmaj

seems right to me

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I think d is the fifth of g and g is the fourth of d but I don't have a chart or wheel at hand.....seems like d would be the first of d.
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!!! I AM ROFLMAO RIGHT NOW. . . because I can't even work the chord wheel correctly !!!
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i am multiple notches below that, i can't keep time, spoons or no spoons. when i am drumming i have flex-timing. i mean, strict metronome time is so . . . , western. or something. LOL anyway
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I generally warm up with a couple octaves of The Circle Of Fifths... :idea:
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I have a tiny understanding of music, and a tin ear. If you play a middle C and any other note, I cannot tell you which is which.
I am like the joke about walking on an icy sidewalk. C sharp or B flat.
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piller wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:39 am I have a tiny understanding of music, and a tin ear. If you play a middle C and any other note, I cannot tell you which is which.
I am like the joke about walking on an icy sidewalk. C sharp or B flat.
I can't tune a guitar to itself because, although I can hear the beat frequency, I can't hear when it stops and the two strings are on the same page. much less the same note. scary to watch Willie Nelson touch up a string on stage. Or Justin Johnson re-tuning a guitar with no aids and no hints from the fretboard. Piano tuners must be like this.

I have a walking stick and I know people with absolute pitch who could tell me its resonant frequency. I have a walking staff that makes a perfect B flat! Also, it's low B flat. Kind of my signature tone I suppose.

I know this because I have an electronic gizmo that tells me.... it's hilarious. ...in fact, i could tell a long shaggy dog true story about how tone deaf I actually am, but I'll spare y'all.
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Caught part of an early John Wayne movie last night. He's riding a white horse, strumming a guitar, and singing! Out Loud! Compared to my voice, Wayne sounds like the greatest singer on earth.

Or, as Dad was fond of correctly pointing out, I couldn't carry a tune in a bucket. Makes Wayne sound all that much more better.

I have a ridiculously funny story about that bucket. Remind me when we are around a dying camp fire with the last pot of coffee in the cups and the horses wiped down and combed.
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Thanks Ray, so interesting. Do you know where that opening scene was shot?
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Not everyone is musically inclined. My singinging has been compared to the sound of a cat caught in a trap. I am glad that some people are musically inclined.
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I play the guitar, but with classical guitar It was mostly tablature (not reading music) and with acoustic guitar, well you don't need to read music. Chord chart will do. If Glenn Campbell cant read music then I don't need to. My father disagrees with me, but he is also a keyboard player and those guys cant do anything without the music.

The Fmaj used in the key of G would be 'wrong' sounding, unless you are playing some kind of rock song, in which case it could work. Like in a Rolling Stones song or something. Off the top of my head Arlo Guthrie did something similar in Steve Goodman's "City of New Orleans' song, on the line; "and Ill be - gone five hundred miles when the day is done."

A maj is a transitory chord and you can change key by working your way through an A maj

Sweet Home Alabama is in D. The accompaniment of songs often start or finish in places that are not obvious.

I used to play in a folk band. (This means that I can fingerpick a guitar, and I have an excellent memory. Count all the words in "Boots of Spanish Leather" if you don't believe me; also that I have the musical theory knowledge of a labrador.)
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Thanks! that's really interesting stuff. it suggests to me that you are not tone deaf.

I know a guy who can identify single notes, not from chords or anything, he hears them and knows them by name. perfect pitch.

my wife has perfect relative pitch. she can sing on key and harmonize with others and accompany herself on guitar.

i can't do any of that. i don't hear myself. i know what my voice sounds like to others, thanks to recorders, but it doesn't sound that way to me.

i'm not complaining, i'm anticipating a ginormous vocal upgrade with i get the new tent . . . ,
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Grizz,
People who are tone deaf are just as rare as those who have so-called perfect pitch. So you're special!
Your story about someone who can hear noises and name them is backed up by people who have gone through musical college. Trumpet jazz players can hear a door squeaking and tell you what note it is....
Singing in tune can be learned, by simply trying and listening to yourself through headphones or recrodings etc. Many people will sing off key at the end of phrases and don't know they are doing it until they hear themselves. My father had a 4 track recorder back in the eighties and we used to do a lot of recording. People who have never heard themselves will often go off key "around the edges".

Stage fright will make you sing out of tune - which is a self defeating circle...John Denver's first day recording in a recording studio was ruined and he lost his chance at an album because he was so nervous he sang everything flat! John Denver of all people.
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Thanks. except for the fortune in lost revenue I feel better. I have a Great tale about how flat i sing, it requires a starry night with meteors, a singing fire fanned by a neutral breeze, and too much coffee, to get it going . . ...
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Have you ever seen the BritCom Keeping Up Appearances? One character on there, played by Patricia Routledge - a good singer, cannot hit the right note to save her life. My voice is worse. Perfectly tone deaf.
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They are funny.
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can you be both flat and sharp at the same time ?
OF COURSE!

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I have glanced at "keeping up appearances" from time to time. it's not my style of funny, it's just annoying.

it gets the flip button faster than an 800 number and yes, i don't know what i'm missing :lol:
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Grizz, we all have our own tastes. Why do you think that there are so many different types of food? Or beverages? Very soldom can you get 2 people to always like the same things, nevermind 3 or more.
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