Violin Lessons... (Keltic SUB-2000)

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Violin Lessons... (Keltic SUB-2000)

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If somebody gifted me this case I guess I’d have to take me some violin lessons... :D
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I think a ‘violin’ is stealable/expensive though, so I’m still looking for a more generic case/backpack or whatever. My “office” computer bag is great, but just not quite big enough for the KelTec... :(
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It is funny - the little KelTec is accurate enough I really do think it 'deserves' optics, yet the gun design is more of a 'backup' gun you'd typically have some sort of 'rugged, basic, iron sight' on...

In case you are interested in trying another option, there are some 45-degree offset picatinny-rail mounts that look like HO-railroad track (thin enough they don't protrude AT ALL above the existing rail, and I've messed with trying those. One will work for a Burris Fastfire or similar tiny optic, and I don't know if they make longer ones, but two separate ones could be used for a bigger scope I suppose. Then you can fold the gun, and a 45-degree scope (or irons) on a short carbine like that is actually pretty easy to use fast and effectively.
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So far what I've done with mine is just get some accessories from MCARBO - https://www.mcarbo.com/kel-tec-sub-2000 ... ories.aspx - they make some improved sights and so-on.

What started out as a "cheap truck-gun" winds up being something I think is 'better' than that, and if I'm not careful, I'll put enough money into it that it won't be a "truck gun" anymore.... :lol: I did the same thing with my SKS a few years ago; that, plus they went up in cost. Probably the same thing will happen with the KelTec SUB-2000's... :lol:

I guess if a person wants a "cheap truck-gun" you really have to find a beater, or buy TWO of whatever it is.... :|
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Doc, you can easily find a violin/viola case for 50 bucks, a piece of Styrofoam, and you can cut the foam to fit your mags, optics etc. Your SIL is in the Baroque field as I recall. :idea: Your right, folks LOVE to steal violins, guitars, guns...I travel with instruments under a blanket, and never leave them unattended or out of sight, the sun kills more guitars than Pete Townsend.
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Smashing a guitar never did seem all that smart to me.
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Doc,
You just gotta find the right bag

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https://www.mcarbo.com/sub-2000-case.aspx

Scroll down. There are dozens of them. Some are specifically for the sub 2000. Some are repurposed. Some can be made/modified cheap (and not threatening in appearance) by yourself. Lots of options.
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someone might be overthinking this, unless the prescription is no batteries.

there are tiny lasers around that seem to me to be more in keeping with my sub-gun, it's my main house pistol slash carbine. the laser doesn't require any kind of sight picture, so shooting from cover is easy.

i think it's cool to load 'em up with all kinds of sighting aids, but honestly, what would you shoot at a 100 yards that would require a finer lineup. is it a sniper rifle? is it a coyote carbine? where does the pistol 9mm run out of gas and bounce off of stuff?

as bad as my vision is, compared to 50 years ago, I still think i could puncture center mass at 100. little steel chickens? i don't know. head shots? maybe wait for a 50 yard target, IDK.

ANYWAY the idea of folding the little thing up with all sorts of accessories does have it's appeal.
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Out of a 16 inch barrel, the 9mm does pick up a couple of hundred fps. Nothing like a .357, but it still gains a bit. For 50 yards on down, it is a decent self defense option.
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piller wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 11:56 am Out of a 16 inch barrel, the 9mm does pick up a couple of hundred fps. Nothing like a .357, but it still gains a bit. For 50 yards on down, it is a decent self defense option.
agree. i just want to control my own postage stamp lot. if i have to exert control past that perimeter i have much more better options than the folding wonder.

P.S. I think that you could use stouter loads and gain something, but mine is a one purpose tool, that i hope i don't have to use. ever. but if i need it i won't be wishing i had something else
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The one pictured above is in 40 S&W. The 40 S&W is about the equivalent to the old 38-40. Out of the rifles it is plenty energy at 100.
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Nate Kiowa Jones wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 3:00 pm The one pictured above is in 40 S&W. The 40 S&W is about the equivalent to the old 38-40. Out of the rifles it is plenty energy at 100.
The .40 has quite a snap out of the Sub-2000. Load it with good self defense rounds and it seems to be pretty good for most things. With my handloads of 155 grain lead bullets and 7.2 grains AA 5, I don't feel undergunned for deer at less than 100 yards. In my home it should be all I need.
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i have looked all over trying to find one in 40 with no joy

although i would have to think hard if i found one now because i have nothing in 40, and i can reload 9mm, so the bad guys will just be stuck with smaller nails
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Several years ago we used a guitar case to carry an M4 on vacation. Nobody gave it a second look as we took it through hotel lobbies everywhere.
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Watched some off-duty Border Patrol officers running those little Kel-Tecs a while back at our LEO range. Pretty useful tools.
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I have carried one in a reusable shopping bag without attracting attention.
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piller wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:23 pm I have carried one in a reusable shopping bag without attracting attention.
I've carried various DA revolvers in-hand (index finger behind trigger for safety) simply by slipping a paper bag over them, and holding it in place with my thumb. Talk about 'ready to fire'...! When I worked in Cincinnati and my 'commute' was on-foot from a ghetto-area hospital inpatient pharmacy back home at 2 a.m. walking about 3 miles to a ghetto-area apartment, that was how I carried my Charter Arms 44 Special.

I actually 'dropped-the-bag' once in a parking lot when I was almost home. It seemed to cause a profound change in the agenda of the three young punks who had started to surround me as I crossed a parking lot.
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