Seventy-two Killed Resisting Gun Confiscation

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"National Guard units seeking to confiscate a cache of recently banned assault weapons were ambushed by elements of a para-military extremist faction. Military and law enforcement sources estimate that 72 were killed and more than 200 injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw.

Speaking after the clash, Massachusetts Governor Thomas Gage declared that the extremist faction, which was made up of local citizens, has links to the radical right-wing tax protest movement.

Gage blamed the extremists for recent incidents of vandalism directed against internal revenue offices. The governor, who described the group’s organizers as “criminals,” issued an executive order authorizing the summary arrest of any individual who has interfered with the government’s efforts to secure law and order.

The military raid on the extremist arsenal followed wide-spread refusal by the local citizenry to turn over recently outlawed assault weapons.

Gage issued a ban on military-style assault weapons and ammunition earlier in the week. This decision followed a meeting in early this month between government and military leaders at which the governor authorized the forcible confiscation of illegal arms.

One government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, pointed out that “none of these people would have been killed had the extremists obeyed the law and turned over their weapons voluntarily.”

Government troops initially succeeded in confiscating a large supply of outlawed weapons and ammunition. However, troops attempting to seize arms and ammunition in Lexington met with resistance from heavily-armed extremists who had been tipped off regarding the government’s plans.

During a tense standoff in the Lexington town park, National Guard Colonel Francis Smith, commander of the government operation, ordered the armed group to surrender and return to their homes. The impasse was broken by a single shot, which was reportedly fired by one of the right-wing extremists.

Eight civilians were killed in the ensuing exchange.

Ironically, the local citizenry blamed government forces rather than the extremists for the civilian deaths. Before order could be restored, armed citizens from surrounding areas had descended upon the guard units. Colonel Smith, finding his forces over matched by the armed mob, ordered a retreat.

Governor Gage has called upon citizens to support the state/national joint task force in its effort to restore law and order. The governor also demanded the surrender of those responsible for planning and leading the attack against the government troops.

Samuel Adams, Paul Revere, and John Hancock, who have been identified as “ringleaders” of the extremist faction, remain at large.

And this fellow Americans, is how the American Revolution began, April 20, 1775.

History. History is about to repeat itself!"

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Nice but there was no National Guard at that time. Militia is a better terminology.
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i think that was a way of updating to current nomenclature, since the nat guard already stormed the capitol and abused citizens seeking redress of grievances caused by the stolen election . . .
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Despite the minor viewpoint differences over terminology, it was quite well put.
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The big question is whether or not the citizens of today value freedom and morality (mostly just the ‘conservatives’) more, or force and materialism (like the ‘progressives’), and given the passivity of the way the citizenry handled the election fraud, I’m not too optimistic.
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The main functional difference between state militias and the National Guard is the Guard can be nationalized and taken over by the president, not s small distinction
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CowboyTutt wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:19 pm "National Guard units seeking to confiscate a cache of recently banned assault weapons were ambushed by elements of a para-military extremist faction. Military and law enforcement sources estimate that 72 were killed and more than 200 injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw.

Speaking after the clash, Massachusetts Governor Thomas Gage declared that the extremist faction, which was made up of local citizens, has links to the radical right-wing tax protest movement.

Gage blamed the extremists for recent incidents of vandalism directed against internal revenue offices. The governor, who described the group’s organizers as “criminals,” issued an executive order authorizing the summary arrest of any individual who has interfered with the government’s efforts to secure law and order.

The military raid on the extremist arsenal followed wide-spread refusal by the local citizenry to turn over recently outlawed assault weapons.

Gage issued a ban on military-style assault weapons and ammunition earlier in the week. This decision followed a meeting in early this month between government and military leaders at which the governor authorized the forcible confiscation of illegal arms.

One government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, pointed out that “none of these people would have been killed had the extremists obeyed the law and turned over their weapons voluntarily.”

Government troops initially succeeded in confiscating a large supply of outlawed weapons and ammunition. However, troops attempting to seize arms and ammunition in Lexington met with resistance from heavily-armed extremists who had been tipped off regarding the government’s plans.

During a tense standoff in the Lexington town park, National Guard Colonel Francis Smith, commander of the government operation, ordered the armed group to surrender and return to their homes. The impasse was broken by a single shot, which was reportedly fired by one of the right-wing extremists.

Eight civilians were killed in the ensuing exchange.

Ironically, the local citizenry blamed government forces rather than the extremists for the civilian deaths. Before order could be restored, armed citizens from surrounding areas had descended upon the guard units. Colonel Smith, finding his forces over matched by the armed mob, ordered a retreat.

Governor Gage has called upon citizens to support the state/national joint task force in its effort to restore law and order. The governor also demanded the surrender of those responsible for planning and leading the attack against the government troops.

Samuel Adams, Paul Revere, and John Hancock, who have been identified as “ringleaders” of the extremist faction, remain at large.

And this fellow Americans, is how the American Revolution began, April 20, 1775.

History. History is about to repeat itself!"

No, I didn't write it but worth passing on.

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So. in this case, the government should destroy all of their ars and assault weapons. Since the "people" should turn over their weapons, so should the police and government. You can't wash one hand without washing the other.
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If you look at the world over the past couple hundred years, there is no disputing the fact that governments, through their own police and military, have killed FAR more of their own citizens, than have criminals. So folks who think it is 'common sense' to disarm citizens and leave government armed are being delusional (of course all Democrats and RINO's are delusional so no surprise). Since it would not be possible for the government to protect from foreign threats without arms, it follows that the government must be armed, which means the citizens must also be armed. No, Joe Sixpack doesn't need to be able to own a Apache helicopter with cannons or heat-seeking missles, or an atomic bomb, but he sure as heck needs to be able to own 'military style firearms'.
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AJMD429 wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:40 am If you look at the world over the past couple hundred years, there is no disputing the fact that governments, through their own police and military, have killed FAR more of their own citizens, than have criminals.
I understand what you are trying to say, but I don't know where you are getting your numbers from. This has not been our experience here in the US, though there is no dispute that this kind of thing has happened elsewhere.
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Scott Tschirhart wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:01 am
AJMD429 wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:40 am If you look at the world over the past couple hundred years, there is no disputing the fact that governments, through their own police and military, have killed FAR more of their own citizens, than have criminals.
I understand what you are trying to say, but I don't know where you are getting your numbers from. This has not been our experience here in the US, though there is no dispute that this kind of thing has happened elsewhere.
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I'm with Doc...........a very high percentage of gun owners will voluntarily hand in their guns for money........

Human nature has never changed...even during our 1700's revolution only 3 percent of the Americans put their lives on the line ..(proven fact)....today, with the unknown knowledge of the true definition of freedom, along with a near zero patriotism level from this current crop of immigrants, the ones who know what patriotism and freedom is, are now in the minority.

I watched near every Trump rally, attended one, and paid close attention to the audiences......95% middle class white Anglos.

We here on Leverguns write about why there is no rage when white people are demonized by the media, white people have to stay quiet when homeless people are camping on their lawns and pooping on businesses sidewalks, billions of taxpayer dollars are going to people and projects that don't deserve it, China is obviously eating us up, black on white crime goes unreported or minimized, commercials on TV are not representative, criminals are set free only to do more damage .......TWO reasons......the ones who care are too scared to talk about it and the majority of Americans agree with what's going on.

Did you ever wonder why there are 15 major liberal media companies and only a small handful of conservative outlets......it's called "demand and what sells". Could you older guys visualize what our WW2 parents would be saying if they were alive today?

We are in the minority and you can't stop what's coming. When we all die out this country is going to change....if I was a young couple I would not have children as you would only be subjecting them to a hard life.
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gamekeeper wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:55 am 1861-1865 ?
Nope, those boys swore an oath to the CSA so they weren't killed by their own government. Nor were the northern boys killed by their own government.
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Scott Tschirhart wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:31 pm
gamekeeper wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:55 am 1861-1865 ?
Nope, those boys swore an oath to the CSA so they weren't killed by their own government. Nor were the northern boys killed by their own government.
The distinguished Civil War historian James McPherson has estimated that there were 50,000 civilian deaths during the war, and has concluded that the overall mortality rate for the South exceeded that of any country in World War I.

Scott, it can be argued that you are technically correct but wasn't the whole shebang Initially forced on the South by the Federal Government?
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a very high percentage of gun owners will voluntarily hand in their guns for money
It's true.

In the late Jeff Cooper's, "To Ride, Shoot Straight, and Speak the Truth," there's a story about
a German POW on the Russian front during WWII. He was in a camp in Siberia - one of 30,000
prisoners. A few of them got together and figured that they could take over the camp and then
either escape or run it if they could get 200 volunteers to fight back. Out of 30,000 POWs, they
found 10 men who'd fight back. The POW escaped by himself and eventually made his way back
to Germany.

I'm only a few years away from retirement, so I'm not giving up my guns. I have nothing to lose
at this point - except of course my freedom and dignity by capitulating.

Right now the Feds don't have the assets to go physically rout out every gun in the country. If they can
get a gun registration scheme in, then they'll fine people, freeze bank accounts, and put a few
examples in jail - just like they did in England. Without a gun registration scheme, they have no leverage.

They have no interest in enforcing existing gun laws, and the news now is mostly propaganda. See
the videos on the Miami rioting? NO ONE in the media is mentioning the fact that in the videos on the
major networks that all of the rioters are of a subset of African-American culture. Interesting, that.

That sex fiend in Atlanta who attacked the massage parlors - the major media is trying to inflame
racial hatred where none exists. Those attacks weren't racially motivated - a whack job sex fiend
went out of his mind. Is there bias against Asians in this country? Sure - but this isn't an example of it.

Things are NOT looking good in some sectors at the moment, are they?

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Scott Tschirhart wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:01 am
AJMD429 wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:40 am If you look at the world over the past couple hundred years, there is no disputing the fact that governments, through their own police and military, have killed FAR more of their own citizens, than have criminals.
I understand what you are trying to say, but I don't know where you are getting your numbers from. This has not been our experience here in the US, though there is no dispute that this kind of thing has happened elsewhere.
Correct - my point is that in the rest of the 'enlightened, morally-superior, world' with their socialist, gun-prohibiting governments, things don't go well in the long run. Here in the 'gun-toting, violent U.S.' we get criticized for our crime and violence (which have OTHER causes that contribute far more than 'gun ownership' - see David Kopel's work on that), yet for all our 'mass shootings' and 'inner-city gun violence', we will in the long run do better than the gun-banning rest of the world. Their track-record is clear when it comes to genocide. (see R.J. Rummel's work on that). The causation coming from 'gun control' is documented in the book "Death by Gun Control" (by Zelman and Simkin I think).
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Sixgun wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:51 pm I'm with Doc...........a very high percentage of gun owners will voluntarily hand in their guns for money........
We are in the minority and you can't stop what's coming. When we all die out this country is going to change....if I was a young couple I would not have children as you would only be subjecting them to a hard life.
I understand that, but it is not in my nature to give-in. Unfortunately that means my kids will be born into rough times, but that's happened to many generations before.
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