Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
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Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
Hi folks,
I was thinking of loading some 240 gr Nosler JSP over Viht N110 for a hunting load out of a 44 mag 1892 clone.
Does anyone have any experience of this combo in a lever action?
Thanks in advance,
Scrummy
I was thinking of loading some 240 gr Nosler JSP over Viht N110 for a hunting load out of a 44 mag 1892 clone.
Does anyone have any experience of this combo in a lever action?
Thanks in advance,
Scrummy
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Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
I use the 210s in my Henry 41 mag. Accurate but I haven't had a chance to get actual field use. I also tried the Speer 210 and the XTP. The XTP is NOT up to the task at carbine velocities per Hornady tech people. Powder is Lilgun making right about 1800fps.
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Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
Have used VVN110 in .44 Mag a couple of times. Accuracy is good in a long barrelled Super Blackhawk. It does good out of a semi-auto .44 Mag carbine. Not really any change in point of impact or group size versus using H110.
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Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
if it's like the white box 240Gr commercial load, it shoots well out of the Marlin 44 Mag carbine. In my son's edition, it is the heaviest load that is reliably accurate out of the slow twist barrel.
It is a hammer on deer and has made lots of meat for our family.
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Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
Might be close.
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Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
My go-to factory load for deer has been 240 gr JSP Winchester or a reload with that bullet. Hard-cast lead (preferably gas-check) works well and MAY be less likely to shatter on bone.
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Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
I use 240gr XTPs over 23gr. of IMR4227. The velocity is right around 1500 in a 16" 94 Trapper.
Gunny may be right regarding the XTP if you are driving it for all the speed you can.
I usually don't, however, and find the XTP an accurate and versatile bullet.
Gunny may be right regarding the XTP if you are driving it for all the speed you can.
I usually don't, however, and find the XTP an accurate and versatile bullet.
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Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
Have not used the 240 gr. but do load the Nosler 300 gr. JSP with a heavy load of H110 for hogs.
It hammers on both ends.
It hammers on both ends.
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Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
Viht powders are quality stuff when you can find it. Who cloned your '92? See no reason why a 240 grain shouldn't work in about anything in 44 mag. Its the staple bullet weight for that cartridge. Those 41 Magnums are cool stuff too, big brother to my 10mm which I have always wanted in a levergun, just loaded long and hot as can be. Always dreamed of a 10mm Casull. -Tutt
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Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
When I was working up loads I remembered the XTPs had a velocity range and they also made an XTP MAG bullet. Just for the heck of it I called Hornady about 1800 fps using their XTP, guy said it wasn't designed for that speed and performance might be lacking. So I called Nosler and Speer. Speer said they hadn't tested to that velocity. Guy at Nosler said Where did you get a 41 mag levergun and then said sure go for it! I'm ordering a Henry 41 when I hang up with you! I thanked him. I'd really like to at least try all 3 on ballistic gel...
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Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
Gunny, in my limited opinion, I think you are a smart man, especially during these hard times. The 41 Mag ballistics look really good, Henry makes a fine firearm. Nice configuration too. Bit jealous. Very nice configured rifle. God Bless you Bro. -Tutt
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Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
Thanks Tutt. I'm no different than anyone else here. I've learned a bunch and hopefully I've taught others something as well. The freedom of thoughts and ideas is what makes this the best, BEST forum on the web!
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Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
I have a 92 japchester in 44 mag. I've used Hornady 240 xtp bullets on deer. My loads were mid level loads and it dropped a deer in its tracks at seventy yards.
Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
I have shot deer with the .44 200gr. XTP at 1520fps with good results. They slow down fast with so much cross section, but I'm sure on the upper end they will break up.GunnyMack wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:45 pmWhen I was working up loads I remembered the XTPs had a velocity range and they also made an XTP MAG bullet. Just for the heck of it I called Hornady about 1800 fps using their XTP, guy said it wasn't designed for that speed and performance might be lacking. So I called Nosler and Speer. Speer said they hadn't tested to that velocity. Guy at Nosler said Where did you get a 41 mag levergun and then said sure go for it! I'm ordering a Henry 41 when I hang up with you! I thanked him. I'd really like to at least try all 3 on ballistic gel...
In my case, I load one 44 load, and use it in both handgun and rifle, so it's a compromise.
If it was only for rifle, I may have done something different.
Same with .357.
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Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
Hindi and OW are correct. Sure the load I worked up is faster than these bullets were designed for but they are slowing down rather quickly to the designed velocity range. 50-100 probably just perfect, 25 & under I might be a bit worried. All 3 makes shot about the same accuracy wise, I wouldn't really worry about it and if I was I'd make darn sure of the shot I'd take on game.
Years ago I used a 300 XTP on a rather large hog, shot was about 15 yards through the lungs. The pig didn't react at the shot and walked about 15-20 yards and fell over. Hole going in was .44 coming out about 3/4" . That was out of my Ruger carbine so velocity was a bit higher but not a lot.
Years ago I used a 300 XTP on a rather large hog, shot was about 15 yards through the lungs. The pig didn't react at the shot and walked about 15-20 yards and fell over. Hole going in was .44 coming out about 3/4" . That was out of my Ruger carbine so velocity was a bit higher but not a lot.
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Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
I think the 240s for the 444 are heavier built, or i think i thought that. or did i make it up?
I suppose that's part of why i switched to hard lead. it's already the size of an expanded .270
and ya know, a 270 is almost a 30/06
I suppose that's part of why i switched to hard lead. it's already the size of an expanded .270
and ya know, a 270 is almost a 30/06

Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
Sorry folks,
I left this alone for too long. Will reply now.
Scrummy
I left this alone for too long. Will reply now.
Scrummy
Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
I had got that feed back for both the Hornady XTP and the Sierra JHC so I was going to stay away from "Hollow points" for use at carbine impact velocities. Thanks for the cooboration.GunnyMack wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:33 pmI use the 210s in my Henry 41 mag. Accurate but I haven't had a chance to get actual field use. I also tried the Speer 210 and the XTP. The XTP is NOT up to the task at carbine velocities per Hornady tech people. Powder is Lilgun making right about 1800fps.
Scrummy
Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
Thanks Piller. N110 is easier and cheaper to get here. Also a bit more flexible when it comes to working up a load it seems. (Bigger spread between min and max).
Scrummy
Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
Luckily my barrel is a 1:20 twist so should be OK.Grizz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:33 pmif it's like the white box 240Gr commercial load, it shoots well out of the Marlin 44 Mag carbine. In my son's edition, it is the heaviest load that is reliably accurate out of the slow twist barrel.
It is a hammer on deer and has made lots of meat for our family.
Scrummy
Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
That's impressive! Would you mind sharing your load data? PM would be fine and I of course understand that useage would be at my own risk.
Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
Hi CowboyTutt.CowboyTutt wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:09 pmViht powders are quality stuff when you can find it. Who cloned your '92? See no reason why a 240 grain shouldn't work in about anything in 44 mag. Its the staple bullet weight for that cartridge. Those 41 Magnums are cool stuff too, big brother to my 10mm which I have always wanted in a levergun, just loaded long and hot as can be. Always dreamed of a 10mm Casull. -Tutt
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Reckon should be good for a cleaning kit / rod and an MTM box of 50 rds.

And when you unpack it:


And out on the range:

Hoping to develop a plinking load (240gr cast lead RNFP and Unique) and a hunting load (Current thinking is 240 gr Nosler JSP over H110 or N110 but might end up going Swift A-Frame or Maybe Hornady Interlock 265gr)
Best wishes,
Scrummy
Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
Always helpful to have data!GunnyMack wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:45 pmWhen I was working up loads I remembered the XTPs had a velocity range and they also made an XTP MAG bullet. Just for the heck of it I called Hornady about 1800 fps using their XTP, guy said it wasn't designed for that speed and performance might be lacking. So I called Nosler and Speer. Speer said they hadn't tested to that velocity. Guy at Nosler said Where did you get a 41 mag levergun and then said sure go for it! I'm ordering a Henry 41 when I hang up with you! I thanked him. I'd really like to at least try all 3 on ballistic gel...
Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
Ah, for the hunting laws where I am I need to be running them fairly quickly to make the muzzle energy requirement (I don't doubt a mid-power load would be perfectly effective but trying to stay withing the law).
Scrummy
Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
OW I would agree the loads in 44 mag almost certainly don't need to be so powerful to be effective, just that pesky law.OldWin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:42 pmI have shot deer with the .44 200gr. XTP at 1520fps with good results. They slow down fast with so much cross section, but I'm sure on the upper end they will break up.GunnyMack wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:45 pmWhen I was working up loads I remembered the XTPs had a velocity range and they also made an XTP MAG bullet. Just for the heck of it I called Hornady about 1800 fps using their XTP, guy said it wasn't designed for that speed and performance might be lacking. So I called Nosler and Speer. Speer said they hadn't tested to that velocity. Guy at Nosler said Where did you get a 41 mag levergun and then said sure go for it! I'm ordering a Henry 41 when I hang up with you! I thanked him. I'd really like to at least try all 3 on ballistic gel...
In my case, I load one 44 load, and use it in both handgun and rifle, so it's a compromise.
If it was only for rifle, I may have done something different.
Same with .357.
Scrummy
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Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
Scrum, the 44 May on that target is Winchester factory white box 240 gr. Happens to work in that rifle.
Re: Nosler JSP 240gr in 44 mag
Thanks very much.Old Savage wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:59 pmScrum, the 44 May on that target is Winchester factory white box 240 gr. Happens to work in that rifle.