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Nope, my mail gets here. That is if the local PO decides to deliver it. Quite frequently these days they will skip a day delivering. I don't mean to just me I mean the entire route. Then the next day we get two deliveries. I have several such incidents on video. Some of the deliveries scheduled for Saturday show up on Sunday morning. But the absolute best is four days without delivery, then three, that's right count them three deliveries by three different people in one day. This started well before the Christmas rush.

Apparently, “Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds”, is like two day delivery. Only an often ignored suggestion.
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Our little postoffice in the boonies is only open Mon - Fri ... 1PM to 5PM.
An overnight parcel takes at least 2 days. It has to go from here to the main PO and then from there to where ever we are sending it.
It's better than the mails were in Africa.
I once received a Christmas card in July that had been mailed in November.
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The 2 sheets of paper overnight cost $125.00 and took 6 days to arrive.
So I don't feel too badly about an overnight taking 2 days.
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I usually don't have too many issues but I did send out two checks the other day and both both got lost. It is possible that someone fished them out of the mail slot but neither showed up after 12 days. I just had to resend them but I sent them certified this time.
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I had something MIA (no movement on the USPS tracking system) for 1.5 weeks -- but it finally showed up. And then another than was AWOL for about 2 weeks -- but I did finally get that one too. It might help if you have the seller contact their local postmaster, as that's what I was advised to do (not sure if it worked, but they both said they did so).

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November 12th i shipped a box to a destination in MT. The box finally showed up in Denver where it sat for 14 days before arriving weeks after it was scheduled. My thought is stuff coming from HOT AREAS are quarantined before they continue on.

Mailed a box today, hearing aid controller for my neighbor ( he forgot to pack it)today. Being an honest guy I said YES about it containing a battery- this little box is going to take 8 days from NJ to AZ by ground...
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It is amazing how one 'little thing' like the post office getting behind can mess everything up...

Try having a business whose 'margin' is in the ten to twenty dollars per visit range, so you get all these small checks ranging from $4.55 to $87.11, about 60-90 days after you perform the service. Without those you lose money big time.

Then the post office gets way behind due to the pandemic and holidays and general ineptitude and lethargy born of quasi-government-run status.

Now, close your business for eight days to remodel (finally) so you can start full-volume operation, after six months of running such low volume you lose money daily.

Finally, have the post office mistakenly think your business was one of the permanently-closed ones, so while you are under construction, instead of dropping the mail off at the landlord next door, they put a 'return to sender' on ALL your mail.... :shock: :shock:

Now we have to pay an employee $15.00 plus benefits to sit on hold with the Anthems of the world, who are definitely NOT going to just happily re-issue and re-mail those checks. EACH individual payment will have to be tracked down, found 'due' (and since you never know when, or if, health insurance will actually reimburse something, or how much they will actually pay, that in itself requires personnel to figure out), and then we will have to patiently call them and give them all the claim information all over again, and persuade them to reissue the check. During the holidays. At end-of-year, when many patients will no longer even have that insurance by the time the claim is re-paid ("I'm sorry, we no longer have that individual as a client; you'll have to call a different number to deal with it..."). And all the time keep in mind we are dealing with generally untrustworthy companies who will promise to re-send payment then just not do it and see if you notice, and even then, hope you will not find it worth paying an employee to track down the small amount all over again.

Small amount to them, but 'profit margin' to us..... :|

We have been SO screwed this year..... :(

No wonder most of the independent practices closed their doors.... :(

THIS is what we are surviving on until payments resume....my employees are now working for IOU's...(and at least I have a wife with a good job, but my employees are paycheck-to-paycheck young people - their dedication humbles me... :| )

We are surviving (barely) on a GoFundMe....
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I was seriously burned by the USPS earlier this year. And they did not fully pay for the items even though I purchased sufficient extra insurance and they admitted they lost the packages. I made the decision then that I would no longer ship anything of value via USPS. I now ship exclusively by UPS and - while more expensive - UPS has never let me down.

Unfortunately, I have purchased items from sellers who continue to use USPS. I have two expensive (to me, anyway) items that have been lost for three weeks. Tracking numbers show the items have not moved for over two weeks. As such, I am no longer buying from sellers who insist on using USPS. I feel I have no choice. Thrice bitten.....

Maybe someday the USPS will earn my trust again. But I don't see that happening anytime soon. And their customer service is an insult.
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Well got a call from my brother and he got my first letter today. So 13 days from California to Alabama. The other one I sent still has not found its way to Pennsylvania yet. Honestly other than some packages lately I usually have pretty good luck with the mail. Funny thing was when I was in the post office the other day they told me my letters were probably lost as it should of taken 4 days.
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My Wife was have a fit the other day about it. I saw Saturday that the post office is slammed with Christmas delivery's as FedEx and others are making delivering the covid vaccine a top priority . saw it on the news.
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I've been buying lead whenever I see a decent deal: 50 to 65 lbs in a medium flat rate box. Those USPS flat rate box deals have been the only thing making shipping lead a reasonable proposition. So far all my boxes have wandered in -- sometimes a few days past the "projected delivery date", but not any serious delay. Guess I've been fortunate.

I wonder what UPS would want to ship a 65 lb. box to me from Pennsylvania? Probably a lot more than $16.
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I bought a new Hat from a place in Texas. I live in WV, so far it has made it to hawaii after passing through my local hub and not being sent out for delivery. Its been 3 weeks at this point. I ordered 400 pieces of 44 mag brass that has been "in transit, arriving late" for 2 weeks.
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Mailed a priority box to my little brother up in Colorado on the 14th. Delivery was estimated on the 17th. Still not delivered on the 22nd. Yeah, they are backed up! I mailed my Christmas cards yesterday. Hope they arrive before the New Year. :lol:
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I've had packages coming from the midwest or east that got here quicker than packages from adjacent state! No reasoning, or explanation either.
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Ordered from Midwayusa on Sat. the 19th, it got shipped to the local P.O. (which is how I feel) in Columbia where it's been sitting ever since! Contacted midway yesterday about it but haven't heard a peep out of them yet either! :x
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Kind of funny in a painful way.
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They have lost three checks that I've sent this year the last one certified. I hated to do it but I started paying my bills electronically. I sent a request to find the lost certified mail and never received a response.
The first lost check was to my credit card company which resulted in late fees that we were able to have waived but it was a pain.
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My Father remembers a postal delivery man who would deliver no matter what. James Nickerson (spelling?) delivered the mail in the area around Turpin. When he was a kid, the school bus was stopped by snow. My Grandfather and two oldest uncles hitched up wagons and went to find them. They brought them back to the house, and my Grandmother fed all of the kids and found enough blankets to make beds for everyone. The parents were contacted, some by phone, some by other parents riding out to deliver the news that the kids were safe. The next morning, the storm was over and parents made the journey to get the kids. James always said that my Grandparents saved his life. When he was delivering the mail, he paid it forward. Everyone got their mail. On time and without issue. My Grandparents never missed a letter as long as he delivered the mail. He truly epitomized the postal service creed.
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I mailed four USPS priority boxes on the 14th. Three have arrived, but the one to the nearest addressee, my youngest brother near Fort Collins, remains stuck inside the system. It left El Paso on the 15th and sat in Phoenix for five days before being forwarded to Denver. Then Denver shipped it to itself twice. I see it has left Denver again this morning -- maybe headed north finally? Who knows. What a crazy year.
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As I’ve said before my dad retired from the USPS in 1985. Back then almost every piece of mail was handled by a human and based on the zip code sent on its way.

Now a human can think and interpret some really back writing so quite often even poorly addressed mail got to its destination.

Around the time dad retired two thongs were happened. First instead of mail going from the initiating PO to the receiving PO they started large sorting centers. So the lail went from the initiating PO, to the local center. The to the receiving center and on too the delivering PO.

This sounds good but the extra steps took time.

The other thing that happened was the USPS started to use sorting machines. Now they did fairly well with typed zip codes. But, the machines would kick anything it couldn’t interpret out for human sorting. Again more time was needed but the PO still had a big employee pool.

As the character recognition software got better and more folks started using printed labels the number of employees was reduced. Problems began to increase but there was no one there to deal with them. So delivery time for those items increased.

To automate things even further the USPS initiated the zip code suffix. Sorting machines were phased in at local PO’s. Of course errors increased and delivery time increased.

During all of this folks lost confidence in the USPS and began to use private carriers more and more. It often cii oh st a bit more but the private carriers were faster and more accurate. Why? They had more humans involved.

The final nail in this coffin is that the quality and motivation of the much smaller staff has degraded dramatically until we are where we are today.

The USPS has outlived its usefulness and should simply be shut down. With electronic communication and bill paying first class mail is dying. Junk mail is now the bulk of the deliveries. The loss of junk mail would likely be environmentally better all the way around.
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No arguments against your point from my view.
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I have read where some of the sorting center smell like garbage dumps. Dead chickens and rotting meat and produce :(
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My dad worked at the Post Office for 29 years... after his armed forces service of 10 years... I believe he retired in 1983... the Post Office has steadily declined in the interim! his specialty was working the "fold, spindle & mutilate" machine! He said the guy on the shift before him would always get it fouled up about ½ hour before his shift ended... said the guy on graveyard could clog it up before my dad had a chance to get outside! My brother-in-law just retired from thee early last year after nearly 30 years... He was the resident geek squad... Said he spent most of his time on Flight Simulator!!! (Not really, but that's what he said whenever anyone complained to him about the postal service)!
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My little priority box mailed on the 14th is still stuck in the centrifuge that is the Denver hub, dang it. :evil:
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Griff’s post points out one of the largest causes of the USPS’ failure. Growing up many of the postal workers were vets. These folks understood that doing a job correctly and on time is something to take pride in. And most of the non vets were of a generation that grew up during the depression and WW II.

The follow on employees never faced any real problems and the idea that they could fail to produce and still be paid became prevalent. In no short the USPS became like so many other purely bureaucratic government organizations and hired the poorest quality workers.
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