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Anyone loading for the .327 Federal?

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Should have my new Single Seven next week.
I have a lot of 32 H&R info but nothing on the .327 yet.
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Universal gives decent accuracy, but is very smoky. 115 grain flat nose bullets made for .32-20 work well. I don't have any of the other powders listed on Hodgdon's website.
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I loaded cast and jacketed for the Ruger SP-101 I had . Seems to me I used H-110 with the jacketed but I don't remember the loads and have long since lost or thrown away any notes I had .

I used the Lyman 113 grain FN GC bullet some and the Ranch Dog 313-115GC as well .
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Hogdon's website has the most data. Lymans 4th edition reloading cast bullets manual has info also. Not sure what you want to do. 100 grainers screaming fast or slow. I shoot cast 115 gr with 5 grains of AA5 out of mine. H4227 has done well also with the 115 grainers. 100 grain jacketed can go screaming fast with a number of powders.
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I load 115 gr. PB cast and 100 gr. jacketed bullets in the .327 for my three Single Sevens.
I have had the best results with Red Dot in the cast bullet loads and 2400 for jacketed although IMR 4227 has also given very good groups with Hornady 100gr. XTP 's and also 85 gr. XTP's.my notes are not at hand but I can give more data tomorrow.
Also note,no two printed data can agree on the proper primer to use in the Fed. .327 . Some data calls for standard small pistol while others call fore small pistol MAGNUM primers and others call for small rifle standard primers. I have tested all three types and chronographed the loads. I settled on
CCI standard small pistol primers for the 115 gr. cast bullet and Red Dot load and CCI small pistol Magnum primers for the 100 gr. jacketed over either 2400 or 4227 load.
Small pistol magnum primers consistently gave higher velocitys in all three barrel lengths in my guns than did small rifle primers and lower SD's too.
I can post that data tomorrow if you like. These little Rugers are fun and very accurate.
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I will be - when I can get some brass in!
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327 works well with 32-20 weight bullets, but heavier is better.
Montana Bullets has 135 grain LRN .313 bullets.
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Thanks Guys,

It's been a busy week and just got back here.
I've tried to quit twice and they won't let me!

It's going to be fun experimenting with this one.
I bought the 7 1/2 barrel version. most of my revolvers are short barreled
And I though this just looked better with the longer barrel.
I have a ton of .32-20 bullets and will try some of you're suggestion.

Thanks again

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Don't be surprised if the longer 7 1/2" barrel does not give the normally expected increase in velocity over the shorter barreled Single Sevens. I own and have tested all three barrel lengths and find the accuracy of the 7 1/2" to be better than the 4 5/8 and the 5 1/2" but not by a large amount. I find they all will keep all the shots in 1 1/2" at 25 yd. rested with the longer barrel being the easiest to shoot well due to the sight radius. 7 shots in 1" at 25 yd. rested is not uncommon results with any of mine.
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Chuck, what did you find with 2400? I am using the 85 gr Hornady and 11 grs.
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OS , I really like 2400 in the .327. It's one of my favorite powders. I will go look at my records and report back.

Here ya go. I had almost forgotten how good they shoot.
Best load to date using 2400......14 shots in one ragged hole (1 1/4") at 45' rested.
100 gr. Hornady XTP ,10.0 gr. 2400,CCI 550 small pistol magnum primer.
Velocity in 4 5/8"=1245 fps. In 7 1/2" = 1272 fps. SD = 28.3

85 gr. Hornady XTP , 10.5 gr. 2400 , Rem 1 1/2 pistol primer (see note below)
Velocity in 4 5/8" was 1346 fps and in the 7 1/2 it was 1398 fps.
Note, the Remington primers were very poor giving SD's like 90 and above and one out of five were pierced and had a super tiny hole in the primer indent that leaked fouling. This was the same with all three barrel length guns.accuracy was very good with the above load even with the pierced primers and lousy SD's. No pierced primers were encountered with any other brand or type primer in the three guns or any other load I tested.
Also note, the heavier 100 gr. Bullet may just give 2400 powder enough resistance to burn cleanly in this cartridge. The 85 gr. Bullet may not allow for enough resistance for a clean burn at the rate of crimp i was using. There certainly is room for more testing but I like the 100 grainer and will likely not buy any more of the 85's.
I recommend using small pistol magnum primers in the .327 Fed.
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Thanks Chuck, that is just about what I arrived at as a starting load. I used Win Small Pistol as I have quite a few on hand.
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I was going to use AA#9 which should have a similar burn rate to 2400. seemed about right to me.
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Chuck, your loads for the 327 with the 85gr XTP and 2400 just about duplicate my 32wcf load for that bullet and 8.7gr of 2400 for 1390fps. I started loading this load back in 2007, about my favorite load for my old 92 rifle. The 100gr XTP loaded with 5744 is also a good load.
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Jerry , that is a good load in the .32-20 in a rifle. My favorire is the Lyman 311008 at .314" loaded over
8.0 gr 2400. Super accurate in my little Browning rifle.
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I know that it has been a while, but I am starting to load for my .327 Single Seven and I wonder if anyone has some updates? I picked up some 110 gr Montana Bullet Works FNGC and I ordered some 100 gr XTPs (factory federal 100 gr loads are smoking hot but this gun loves them).

Any guidance on loads for these bullets?
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Scott Tschirhart wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:13 pm I know that it has been a while, but I am starting to load for my .327 Single Seven and I wonder if anyone has some updates? I picked up some 110 gr Montana Bullet Works FNGC and I ordered some 100 gr XTPs (factory federal 100 gr loads are smoking hot but this gun loves them).

Any guidance on loads for these bullets?
The last combination I was working with was 4.4 grains of Unique and a 100 gr Cast Performance LSWCGC bullet. That one produced 2"-3" groups. It wasn't long after the original post that I ended up in the hospital for 4 mos. and a long recovery. The Single Seven has been sitting around taking up space until just a few days ago. Odd how these thing work.

I'm going to try Chuck's recommendation of 2400 and the Hornady XTPs. I don't think I have much 2400, but I have a lot of Win 296. The Hodgdon has a starting load for 296 as 12.2 @ 1,419 fps with the 100 XTP.

I think I'll be cranking up the Dillon this afternoon.

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Here's a good discussion on the Shooters forum from a couple years ago, a pretty good read..
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I'm going to try Chuck's recommendation of 2400 and the Hornady XTPs. I don't think I have much 2400, but I have a lot of Win 296. The Hodgdon has a starting load for 296 as 12.2 @ 1,419 fps with the 100 XTP.

I think I'll be cranking up the Dillon this afternoon.

jb 8)
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If I find a good load, I’ll get a conversion for the Dillon. I look forward to hearing about your further experiments.

What I am thinking about is a relatively hot .327 load at 1300-1500 fps that shoots as accurately as the Federal factory load.

Then a .32 Long load that is cheap to make and good for small game.

This is what I do with my .357s. I have a relatively hot .357 load and I shoot mostly with a warm .38 Special load.

But the advantage I see is that my Single Seven is very light and handy on the hip. Initially it seems to be wonderfully accurate. The experiments continue.
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My Henry levergun 327 was a disappointment (inaccurate) with what factory ammo I could find a couple years ago, so I just set it aside. Time (hopefully) to try some handloads for it this spring.
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AJMD429 wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:38 am .

My Henry levergun 327 was a disappointment (inaccurate) with what factory ammo I could find a couple years ago, so I just set it aside. Time (hopefully) to try some handloads for it this spring.
I'm hopeful that Ruger will turn out a Marlin levergun in this caliber. Several of us are lobbying for it.
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Here’s a dandy rig that Rob made for my .327
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Nice stuff!

Who made the grips for it?

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Scott Tschirhart wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:16 pm Here’s a dandy rig that Rob made for my .327
As you can see, Rob's design holds the pistol firmly even when one is completely inverted.


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2ndovc wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:27 pm Nice stuff!

Who made the grips for it?

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Those are the stag grips by Tyler Gunworks in Friona, Tx. They helped put together the 35th Shootists Anniversary revolvers.
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I see you've got the one just prior to ours. I asked for 87 as it will be a 35th wedding anniversary gift to my wife. (She doesn't know we have it, yet). Rob did a special holster for her as well, looking forward to seeing her use it this summer, the Good Lord willing.
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Factory 327s are listed at 45,000 lbs. That has been more than I like for my SP 101. I have loaded down with 2400. I would think you would have to test with your own revolvers to find their sweet spot so to speak.
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I agree. I don't intend to load to max with a Single Seven. The primers in factory loads definitely show high pressures.

But I also want to take advantage of the flat shooting aspects of this cartridge. It seems to be pretty inherently accurate.
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AmBraCol wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:12 pm Those are the stag grips by Tyler Gunworks in Friona, Tx. They helped put together the 35th Shootists Anniversary revolvers.
I told Bobby this weekend that I wish every Ruger Single Action had a trigger as good as this one. I have never had a Ruger (factory or custom) that felt this good.
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AJMD429 wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:38 am .

My Henry levergun 327 was a disappointment (inaccurate) with what factory ammo I could find a couple years ago, so I just set it aside. Time (hopefully) to try some handloads for it this spring.
I have heard that they are tack drivers when you find a load that they like. Hopefully this spring we can see a difference.

My Ruger simply loves the factory .32 Long ammo.
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Scott, does your Single Seven have the 4 5/8 barrel?
It looks like it. I have the Single Six with the 45/8 barrel, thinking it would be nice to have a 327 Single Seven to match it
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TraderVic wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:57 am Scott, does your Single Seven have the 4 5/8 barrel?
It looks like it. I have the Single Six with the 45/8 barrel, thinking it would be nice to have a 327 Single Seven to match it
Yes, that is exactly right.
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AmBraCol wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:10 pm
As you can see, Rob's design holds the pistol firmly even when one is completely inverted.

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Scott Tschirhart wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:55 pm
TraderVic wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:57 am Scott, does your Single Seven have the 4 5/8 barrel?
It looks like it. I have the Single Six with the 45/8 barrel, thinking it would be nice to have a 327 Single Seven to match it
Yes, that is exactly right.
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Scott Tschirhart wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:39 am
AmBraCol wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:12 pm Those are the stag grips by Tyler Gunworks in Friona, Tx. They helped put together the 35th Shootists Anniversary revolvers.
I told Bobby this weekend that I wish every Ruger Single Action had a trigger as good as this one. I have never had a Ruger (factory or custom) that felt this good.
Scott, are they American Elk or Sambar Stag grips? Sure are nice! :mrgreen:

I decided to go with buffalo horn for mine. The black also offsets the stainless steel nicely. :D
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I don't really know what kind of horn they are made of. To tell you the truth, I mostly use the factory stocks when I am bumming around on the ranch. The factory stocks are laminated and thinner. They feel great.
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Testing two factory and two handloads this morning.
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Niiiice. Glad to see the best group with 85 gr Federals. That's all I've found in my area. Hope to try out the SP this w.e.
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I had an idea that the 85 gr factory load would be accurate from my previous range sessions, but this is the first time I put this gun on paper.

PS I went to clean the brass and noticed this bag of brand new .327 brass. I’m not sure where this came from but I suspect it came from Mic. Now I can really experiment!
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Looks like you're set for a while, brass wise. Gotta love stumbling on something you'd forgotten about. Happened to me last summer with some bullets I'd forgotten putting back for future use. Ended up with plenty to experiment with (not for the 327, unfortunately). Hmmm, so it seems to favor lighter bullets? That's a bit disappointing as I tend to favor heavy for caliber slugs. Looking forward to your future endeavors.
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That's pretty impressive, Scott. I'm kind of starting over with mine, didn't keep any notes on what I started with or hot the factory ammo performed.
I bought the 7 1/2" barreled version since most of my revolvers have shorter barrels, but I wish I'd bought one of the shorter ones too. Just did a quick search on GB and there's only two listed. One like mine for $1200 and a 4 3/4" barrel for $1400!
I sure hope Ruger gets back to making revolvers again someday. The little plastic pistols are getting old.

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AmBraCol wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:18 pm Hmmm, so it seems to favor lighter bullets? That's a bit disappointing as I tend to favor heavy for caliber slugs. Looking forward to your future endeavors.
I don’t think this test really demonstrates that the gun favors light bullets but rather that it really likes that load.

I have some other loads and other bullets to try. I’m still thinking a 110 gr cast bullet will do well with the right powder charge.
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231 is showing some promise.
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Scott Tschirhart wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:55 pm
AmBraCol wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:18 pm Hmmm, so it seems to favor lighter bullets? That's a bit disappointing as I tend to favor heavy for caliber slugs. Looking forward to your future endeavors.
I don’t think this test really demonstrates that the gun favors light bullets but rather that it really likes that load.

I have some other loads and other bullets to try. I’m still thinking a 110 gr cast bullet will do well with the right powder charge.
Well, I'm definitely watching your results with interest. There's still a dearth of components (brass and ammo, anyway) on the market. I managed to lay in a supply of projectiles last year, sure wish I'd made a list of what's still on hand. Todd Corder's been playing with the caliber as well, he's been shooting up to 125 gr, maybe even heavier. I need to look at his results again.
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Just a heads up. I noticed yesterday that Natchez has 100 gr Hornady XTPs on sale. $23 per box.
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Oldncrusty wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:15 am Just a heads up. I noticed yesterday that Natchez has 100 gr Hornady XTPs on sale. $23 per box.
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Oldncrusty wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:15 am Just a heads up. I noticed yesterday that Natchez has 100 gr Hornady XTPs on sale. $23 per box.
Thanks for the heads up. I don't always remember to check with them.
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