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Thoughts on the model 64

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I have found a beauty of a model 64. Light wood, bluing 99% +, no scratches. $899. Circa 1940. Real beauty. Felt good. Was wondering what say the forum here of this version of the 94? Any fans or critics out there?
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Big fan! Can't afford one of the originals, so I got a NIB mdl 64A from Victor. Mine's a .30-30, from 1972, the Rarest of the mdl 94 variants. Super handling, even with the 26" barrel. Round, with ¾ mag. It ain't called the "Deer Hunter's Rifle" for no reason! What chambering?
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Best version of a 94 ever made. Buy it!
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The 64 is an elegant rifle. I have a 32 Special that I picked up a few years ago. It has a 3 1/2 pound trigger that makes it a mighty fine shooter. One day, when the the light was ideal for my poor eyes, I shot a 3/8 inch group at 50 yards with the open sights. I have only seen 3 around here, and I bought one of them. Mine was well used and I paid ~$550. One was a standard model that sold for ~$800, and a deluxe model sold for $1250. Sounds like the one you are looking at is reasonably priced. (For here anyway.)

From my experience, you won't regret getting it, especially if its in the condition you describe. I'd trade my 1951 model 94 for a 64 any day of the week. JMHO.
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I think they're the best looking of them all and they fit me.
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Mine was made in 1953, I have read by some that they are too heavy for a 30-30. for Me the stock design is the best I have seen in a Levergun making it easy to shoot offhand. Winchester got it right with the 64.
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Winchester's Model 64? Such a gorgeous, elegant and well-laid out hunting rifle!

A .30-30 64A was both my first centerfire and first deer rifle. I was too young to appreciate it and went on a long trek through bolt actions and other stuff before finally realizing what a gem I already had.

Picked up a 64 Deer Rifle (AKA Deluxe) in .32 Special last year that someone had stuck one of the Redfield M294 scout-type scopes on back in the day. I know some will say it's an eyesore, or an act of sacrilegious vandalism akin to drawing a mustache and goatee on the Mona Lisa. With my poor eyesight, I really cherish this sighting arrangement and my wallet liked what the scope did to the price.
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I have three 64's and think they are a fine looking and shooting rifle.

In that configuration, the 30-30 will shatter many peoples idea of that cartridges accuracy potential.

I have a pre war 30-30, a pre war 30-30 20" short rifle, and a post war 32W.S.

I prefer the pre war versions, and truthfully I'm not big on pistol grip leverguns so the one on the left sees the most use. Its an 1899mfd 94 rifle that was returned to the factory and had a complete 64 front end installed in 32W.S.
They also installed a 56 Lyman receiver sight.

Its an inctedible shooter and fits and balances pefectly.
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Good fair price for a "standard" pre-war 64....highway robbery if its a deluxe. Extreme highway robbery if its a 20" carbine in either variation......

No wonder its somewhat hard to find a 64........Old Winchester has them all.----nice pieces Jay. :D ----------6
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Griff wrote:Big fan! Can't afford one of the originals, so I got a NIB mdl 64A from Victor. Mine's a .30-30, from 1972, the Rarest of the mdl 94 variants. Super handling, even with the 26" barrel. Round, with ¾ mag. It ain't called the "Deer Hunter's Rifle" for no reason! What chambering?

32 Win. Went back today and looked it over. I had the two rifles calibers mixed up. This on is 32win
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"Mikey likes it ! " . ;)

That config was my favorite - I had an 1871-1971 NRA Rifle, aka Model 64A - until I obtained a lighter .30-30 Trapper, being no longer comfortable with the longer length barrel rifles.

The price seems OK, Mike, in today's market (where will you find another for that money ? ), but - as always - if you made a reasonable slightly lower offer, you might even end up with a bargain.


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The old family deer rifle is a Model 64 in 25-35 caliber, made in 1937. It was purchased by my grandmother so the boys would have a deer rifle. At one time or another it took every kind of game animal in Arizona. At some point in time the butt stock was broken and replaced with an ugly piece of board held in place with a lag screw. Even so, it's a very accurate rifle and my brother took his first white tail with it a few years ago. He has also cornered the market on 25-35 brass and Hornady 117 gr RN bullets in his part of the country. They are a fine rifle indeed. That long barrel just "looks right" with the short cartridge tube under it. In 30 WCF it should be an even better white tail rifle than the 25-35. With good handloads (or even factory fodder) it should prove to be a great shooter. Let us know how you like it - and don't forget to post pics! :-) :-D
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rjohns94 wrote:
Griff wrote:What chambering?
30WCF
Sixgun wrote:Good fair price for a "standard" pre-war 64....highway robbery if its a deluxe. Extreme highway robbery if its a 20" carbine in either variation......
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What Sixgun means is, that YOU'RE THE ROBBER! :P :lol:
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Griff wrote:
rjohns94 wrote:
Griff wrote:What chambering?
30WCF
Sixgun wrote:Good fair price for a "standard" pre-war 64....highway robbery if its a deluxe. Extreme highway robbery if its a 20" carbine in either variation......
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What Sixgun means is, that YOU'RE THE ROBBER! :P :lol:

Yeah Griff. Ole Six has a way with words. :D

Sometimes I'm taken aback at how much this stuff has gone up. :shock:



Sixgun wrote:Good fair price for a "standard" pre-war 64....highway robbery if its a deluxe. Extreme highway robbery if its a 20" carbine in either variation......

No wonder its somewhat hard to find a 64........Old Winchester has them all.----nice pieces Jay. :D ----------6
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I will say that the 64's are probably the best balanced "rifle" I've carried. It's usually pretty thick woods here and carbines rule the day but with the 64 it doesn't feel like you're carrying a rifle. Very graceful.

Function follows form in this case.
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I had the caliber wrong, it's 32 Win. I went back to look at it in better light. I saw some wear spots One scratch on recvr. One small dent on stock. Butt plate looks like it has a trace of case color on it. Bore is perfect. Even has front sight hood.

Now I'm disappointed it is in 32 as I was pumped for a 30wcf. Dropped price to $850.


Hmmm
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I wouldn't let the 32 stop you. I actually really like the 32WS. All of mine are vey accurate.

For that price I would grab it. Especially seein' as its pre-war.

If you find a 30-30 later on you can always sell this one or trade it.......but I bet you won't. :D
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Mike,
Does it have checkering? Length of barrel?

It's 75 years old....I expect a few bumps here and there. Buttplate is blued.
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Cast bullet rifle. It could be a whole lot of fun. :)
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Sixgun wrote:Mike,
Does it have checkering? Length of barrel?

It's 75 years old....I expect a few bumps here and there. Buttplate is blued.
No checkering, rifle length barrel. I agree about the butt plate but it looked like fading cc on the edges, may have just been verdigris
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I have one in 32spl. Probably the best fitting rifle they made.
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Here is my mid 1950`s model 64. 30-30.

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After your description I would buy it if I could afford it. That is a dandy model and the value should go only up.
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I passed on one years ago for $400 in 90% condition. I didn't know what it was at the time. The fella three tables down from me was doing the happy dance about five minutes later.

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My Grandad (1889 - 1973) hunted with several rifles but his favorite was the 64 in 30-30. He toppled many animals with this beauty including big western mulies.

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My Grandfather was a warden in the Allagash in the 30's & 40's and carried a 64 in 30-30.

This always puzzled me as it's a fairly long rifle and he was always carrying a lot of stuff, much of the year on snowshoes, and covered huge amounts of area in heavy woods. Also spent a lot of time in canoes as the waterways were the "easiest" travel. My mothers uncle was there too and carried a 92 carbine in 44. Most every other I know of carried 92 or 94 carbines but my Grandfather couldn't say enough good about the 64 and loved it. He also heaped much praise on the 30-30 and I'm sure I would have let him down if my first rifle would have been chambered in anything else.

Gramp was an incredible woodsman, I miss him and his stories.
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