POLITICS - RKBA - Fun Info on the Sullivan Act...

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POLITICS - RKBA - Fun Info on the Sullivan Act...

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How many people know that "Big Tim" Sullivan was a Mob Boss?

Or that his Act was essentially designed to protect his (Irish Gang) turf?

Gotta love Gun Control Laws. They are always created with such Honorable intent... :roll:

The Sullivan Act

The Sullivan Act is a New York state law that requires a permit to carry or own any gun small enough to be concealed. Because the permit is issued by local law enforcement, it provides a great deal of local control on firearm availability.

Passed by the New York Senate May 10, 1911
Passed by the New York Assembly May 15, 1911
Signed into law May 29, 1911
In force as of September 1, 1911
Amended in 1931 to require finger prints and photographs

The permit requirement is on a per gun basis. The initial fee of $3.00 per gun meant that poor people were immediately priced out of the legal gun market. Although promising to never raise the fee, it now sits at $55.00 per gun and the city takes up to six months.

(Interestingly, the in U.S. Supreme Court decision Murdock v Penn. 319 U.S. 105 (1943) - a slim majority of court overruled Jones v. Opelika and ruled that imposing a fee to sell religious literature door-to-door was too great a burden on religious liberty. .WHy isn't the same case applied to this gun fee?)

Before the Sullivan Act
January 27, 1905 New York Times Editorial -
(The proposed gun control) measure would prove corrective and salutary in a city filled with immigrants and evil communications, floating from the shores of Italy and Austria-Hungary. New York police reports frequently testify to the fact that the Italian and other south Continental gentry here are acquainted with the pocket pistol, and while drunk or merrymaking will use it quite as handily as the stiletto, and with more deadly effect. It is hoped that this treacherous and distinctly outlandish mode of settling disputes may not spread to corrupt the native good manners of the community.
"Big Tim" Sullivan was a politician and organized crime boss in this period. He was a part of the Tammany Hall political machine that controlled a corrupt New York City Police Department (and thereby the future Pistol Licensing Bureau). He also owned the Hesper Club, a successful gambling establishment on the lower east side. This is the man who proposed the Sullivan Act and it is named after.

By writing the law as it was, Sullivan provided himself several advantages. He could:

* guarantee his body guards could be armed,
* guarantee his opponent's body guards should not be armed,
and
*use a corrupt police force to arrest his opponents for violations, guilty or not.

It is said that one political opponent had all his pockets sewn closed after three arrests for carrying guns without a permit.

Public Expediencies
August 9, 1910 - James Gallagher shoots New York Mayor William Jay Gaynor in the throat.

January 23, 1911 - David Graham Philips, a popular novelist, shot and killed on a New York sidewalk.

Sullivan promised that if this bill passes, homicides would drop substantially. In fact, post Sullivan Act, suicides dropped by 50% but murders did not drop.

How Was It Enforced?The first person arrested under the Sullivan Act was Guiseppe Costabile, an Italian mobster. (Gun Control has ALWAYS been racist...)

Castellano (1986) finds underlying structural variables, such as social stratification, play a role in the development and passage of a restrictive early gun control law, New York’s Sullivan law, in 1911. For example, established residents perceived new immigrants to be responsible for rising crime, which provided an impetus to limit these immigrants’ access to firearms (Castellano, 1986). In addition, these new immigrants were not part of the gun culture and had no political power, thus did not have the will nor capacity to oppose the measure (Castellano, 1986). Castellano also finds that onset of the Progressive Era, with its introduction of social statis­tics into the legislative arena, caused reformers to want to save the lower class from dangerous urban America and reformers believed curbing access to guns would help in this effort (Castellano, 1986). Despite opposi­tion from representatives of rural areas, the 1911 Sullivan Law passed because it was supported by several powerful people and because of an important pivotal event -- the attempted assassination of the New York City mayor.

http://www.lizmichael.com/racistgc.htm

1911 New York Police choose who can own guns lawfully. "Sullivan Law" enacted, requiring police permission, via a permit issued at their discretion, to own a handgun. Unpopular minorities were and are routinely denied permits. ("Gun Control: White Man's Law," William R. Tonso, Reason, December 1985) "(T)here are only about 3,000 permits in New York City, and 25,000 carry permits. If you're a street-corner grocer in Manhattan, good luck getting a gun permit. But among those who have been able to wrangle a precious carry permit out of the city's bureaucracy are Donald Trump, Arthur Ochs Sulzburger, William Buckley, Jr., and David, John, Lawrence and Winthrop Rockefeller. Surprise." (Terrance Moran, "Racism and the Firearms Firestorm," Legal Times)

http://www.nthposition.com/americanmafia.php

Side Notes
The Previous Sullivan Act
In 1908, New York passed a Sullivan Act that made it illegal for women to smoke in public. The law lasted two weeks.

The Passing of Tim Sullivan
http://www.crimelibrary.com/gangsters_o ... ml?sect=15

In September 1913 Sullivan disappeared after an all night card game with his guards. A few days later his body was found on the railroad tracks near the Westchester freight yards. An engineer stated that Sullivan was dead before the train ran over his body.

http://politicalgraveyard.com/death/railroad.html

Struck and killed by a locomotive, near Pelham Parkway, Bronx, Bronx County, N.Y., August 31, 1913

http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/bi ... ex=S001061
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