Savage Combo-guns are back...

[AJMD429]

.22 LR or .22 WMR over .410 gauge

http://savagearms.com/firearms/model/Model42

[Udy]

Good grief. I never been so excited and then so disapointed that quickly in my life.
That is about the ugliest dang thing I ever seen. Could they make a bit more traditional one perhaps.

[JerryB]

i have a model 24, 3 inch 20 gauge and 30-30. I have had it about 20 -25 years, a good combination.

[Rusty]

The brothers Quinn did a test of one over on gunblast.com.


The review looked really good till I went to the Savage website and saw the MSRP.

[madman4570]

Want one in 30-06/12ga ?????????????

[olyinaz]

Yuck. They pulled a page out of the Ruger and Taurus book of ugly.

Oly

[gamekeeper]

Good grief. I never been so excited and then so disapointed that quickly in my life.
That is about the ugliest dang thing I ever seen. Could they make a bit more traditional one perhaps.

My thoughts exactly...

[FWiedner]

Didn't care for the Combo guns back when. I thought the originals were very nearly the ugliest, clunkiest guns I'd ever seen.

These don't look too different, just a bit of an update to give them a hint of the evil blackness.

Actually, I think the black syntethic stock adds an air of utility to the inate ugly clunkiness. Kinda like, it's black, so you don't have to look at it real close to realize it's danged ugly.

I'd like to check one out to see how they handle.

[Old Ironsights]

Unless built as a classic drilling or as a brazed barrel O/U a combo gun will always look like ... well...

But the concept is sound and useful.

[mikld]

Yep, took a nice classic design and "tacti-cooled" it to death...

[Old Ironsights]

Yep, took a nice classic design and "tacti-cooled" it to death...

Actually, the Polymer stock is less of an issue to me than the gap-tooth barrels.

IMO a gun like that SHOULD have a polymer stock and SHOULD be in Stainless Steel (black or otherwise).

But the whole separated barrel thing just looks Bakail cheezy to me.

[jeepnik]

Good grief. I never been so excited and then so disapointed that quickly in my life.
That is about the ugliest dang thing I ever seen. Could they make a bit more traditional one perhaps.

That makes two of us. But I guess they don't try to make things for traditionalists these days. They are aiming at a younger consumer demographic. Heck, if they'd have at least put a plywood stock (and I'm sure most have read my opinion of those) I'd consider it.

But, it might make a nice start if someone makes an aftermarket set of wood for it.

[jeepnik]

Yuck. They pulled a page out of the Ruger and Taurus book of ugly.

Oly

Close, I think they were influenced by Mossberg. We need a puke icon.

[Chris83716]

Cabela's in Boise had a well used Stevens 22 over 410 marked for$479 this morning. Personally I like the black synthetic stock and black finish. The red trim is over the top though.

Chris

[AJMD429]

Want one in 30-06/12ga ?????????????

Saw one in .308/12ga and in .223/20ga on the same gun-show table about 20 years ago; they were $250 apiece, and back than I just thought that was too much money for either one... Now I realize I should'a got both.

I STILL think if a company would make a regular over-under shotgun, with an extractor-cut-like cut for aligning them all to the same position each time, one could make such a gun with several inserts available, complete with a rifled-barrel the length of the shotgun tube, and at the muzzle a way to adjust them individually for accurate regulation. A fitted but mobile collar around the end of the barrel somewhat like a scope's reticle-adjustment tube, using set-screws and with a nylon or other surface so as not to scratch-up the inside of the shotgun barrel, would be SO cool...

You could go afield with your shotgun combined with anything from .22 LR or .22 WMR, to .22 Hornet, .32-20, .223, .357 Mag, .444 Marlin, .308, or whatever. Even put an insert in both shotgun barrels and have a .22 LR / .45-70 combo gun.

I need a machine-shop and a patent-laywer...

[AJMD429]

Close, I think they were influenced by Mossberg. We need a puke icon.

[Sarge]

I've shot a few older 24's over the years, from the era in which they actually put sights on them. Those guns were fairly easy to hit with. IMO the most useful ones were the 357/20's, which fetch a pile of money these days.

The 42 appears to have plastic 'sorta' sights and a MSRP ofaround $450; street price might be a tad less. You can still pick up used 870s here for $200 or so, sometimes with screw-in chokes. The other $150 could go towards a used Ruger/other .22 pistol and you'd be much better outfitted for a wider range of uses.

[Blaine]

I saw an old one at the show today. 22mag and 20ga for 420$$ Very tempting.

[1894c]

i like it...i also like the Yankees, spamoni, and a tupperware auto (Glock 30SF) for my woods gun...i'm bad... :)

[J Miller]

""IF"" it will shoot accurately and reliably I can see it's usefulness.

However my opinion of the way it looks is cheap and Chinese made junque. I would not buy one if someone gave me the money. I'd go buy a used Ruger first.


Joe

[Marvin S]

I'll just bite my tounge, but pretty much what everyone else thinks.

[AJMD429]

I should add that although I happily provided a puke-icon for others to express their dislike of the poor thing - I actually think it looks just like I'd wand a 'survival' gun to look - ditch the nostalgic and beautiful wood and use durable black plastic. Maybe even camo plastic. . .

[J Miller]

I like wood. I don't like plastic. I don't like camo plastic even more. Being an anachronism puts me at odds with many people and opinions, but there's not one thing wrong with wood stocks and blued steel.
Our ancestors were using wood and steel guns as real genuine survival guns long before plastics were ever dreamed up. They're still my tool of choice.

Joe

[RIHMFIRE]

wish I had mine back.....
410/22

[Sarge]

I actually handled one at WalMart, Joe. Seems like the were nearly $400 but I didn't pay attention as actually purchasing one was the farthest thing from my mind. Three distinct first impressions.

1) They are very, very ugly.
2) They are very light, surprisingly so.
3) The gun mounts to the shoulder well, comfortably and the sights are easily acquired. Points for stock functionality.

The rationale in producing a flat black gun, with bright red lettering down the side of it, escapes me. Maybe that's so you don't lose it when you lean it up against a black oak, to take a whiz. I expect they'll sell a pile of these to folks who'll shoot big paper targets with them on an indoor range and never see it's sights against a living thing.

It'd be easy for an old country boy to pooh-pooh such an arrangement, but those folks vote too.

[AJMD429]

Our ancestors were using wood and steel guns as real genuine survival guns long before plastics were ever dreamed up.

Yeah, maybe - but what did they know about 'survival' - I'll bet they never even played paint-ball, or had any survival-games for their computers. Sheessh...

[natedontgo]

Cabela's Boise---$479-----Great ball o'fire--what do they think they have,a Tikka or Valmet..???? Nate

[FWiedner]

I like wood. I don't like plastic. I don't like camo plastic even more. Being an anachronism puts me at odds with many people and opinions, but there's not one thing wrong with wood stocks and blued steel.
Our ancestors were using wood and steel guns as real genuine survival guns long before plastics were ever dreamed up. They're still my tool of choice.

Joe

I'm pretty sure that their ancestors before them probably looked down on them new-fangled noisy pea-shooters and smoke poles.

Ater all sharp sticks, heavy rocks, and snares were what their daddy used, and they seemed to get along just fine.

[Chuck 100 yd]

What Udy said +1 !!!! YUCK !!!
Paste PUKE smilie here! _________

[AJMD429]

The Model 42 is a modernized version of an old classic. It is lighter, shorter, and handier than its predecessor. While the new Model 42 might not be as visually appealing to traditional shooters, the old Model 24 was not exactly a handsome gun. The beauty of the new Model 42 lies in its versatility, handiness, and function. It is like the multi-tool of the firearms world, providing shooters a variety of ammunition choices in one handy package.

[Bluehawk]

I had one years ago in 357 mag over 20 Ga. LOVED it !!! Had the chamber reamed to 357 MAX. It was a great little combo Used 35 Rem ( etc) and 180 Single Shot Bullets in it and it was a real Great little gun CLOSELY approached 35 Rem Velocities . 20- Ga was 3 in. so it was a great combo SORRY I sold it !!! looked way BETTER THAN THE NEW ONES I was stunned also looking at the new ones Would STILL be interested in one in 357 and then have a custom stock made !!

[Chris83716]

I agree a 357 over 20 guage would have me reaching for my wallet. I'm pretty sure I could cure the guady red trim problem.

Chris

[Panzercat]

Just like those little Synth black Ruger 10/22s... Nothing a can of spray paint doesn't cure..




Oh, you have a combo options in wood through EAA. 12g-30.06, 12g-308, 12g-223.. even 12g-45.70, 410-22 and others