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Investigative Reporter Explains Why UFOs Could Be Top-Secret Laser Tech Designed to Confuse Our Military

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/national-s ... r-military

"...a Wall Street Journal op-ed by legal analyst and investigative reporter Jeffrey Scott Shapiro theorizes those UFOs "maybe earthly -- and dangerous," created using laser-plasma technology."
(quoting https://www.wsj.com/articles/ufos-uaptf ... =flipboard)
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I tend to disagree as i seen a UFO back in about 1968 and i doubt the gov. new that much then.
I think it`s demonic, that`s my story and i`m sticking to it, now could the evil people now have something to do with demonic activity yes i could believe that.
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Well ... the news story was about the more recent spate of sightings .... and as we know, everything in the news is to be trusted. :roll:
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JimT wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 3:51 pm Well ... the news story was about the more recent spate of sightings .... and as we know, everything in the news is to be trusted. :roll:
Well yes the sighting will become more recent as we get closer to the Rapture to deceive people into thinking we have been removed by alians for the betterment of society.
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There is proof all over the world of nonhuman advanced activity. Gen 1:26 and 2:7 are one form.
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Old Savage wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 4:00 pm There is proof all over the world of nonhuman advanced activity. Gen 1:26 and 2:7 are one form.
Right but that doesn`t mean they are aliens life forms from another planet, fallen Angels demonic.
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Jim i could see that might be a possibility but in the end it`s evil deception like everything else. :)
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God is not a man.
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Ya lost me on that one, God was man in the flesh in Jesus.
All i`m saying is we fight not against the flesh but principalities of the air that we are in a time of lies and deception and God is allowing man to be deceived.
Take the book of Job, Satan went to God and God told him he could do anything to him except kill him, God is in control of everything and if we are in the end times God will let man believe the lies.
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Gen 2:7 predates Jesus by approx 4,000 years.
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I know that, i`m not arguing your point. :)
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Then there are clearly aliens who are not demons. Though we don’t know what is included in the definitions of demons. I assume not Elohim or Yahweh Elohim.
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We seemed to see a lot of things in the sky in the 1960s then it seemed to taper off.

Now most people are not outside at night (or in the daylight for that matter) and we don't seem to see as many unexplained things in the sky.

These more recent sightings seem to be in closer proximity to military ships and installations, so I would not be surprised that there would be people who would set up such things to cause confusion.
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Deception and lies are the times we are in.
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I don't know much about aliens......
I don't pretend to know God's plan.......
But the above statement is truth for sure.
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NEVER been to MO, but you're gonna have to show me what is REAL! Don't believe MSM or govt. anymore, and CERTAINLY NOT fauci! NEVER had a flu shot, got tested for the flu, and CERTAINLY WILL NOT get the shot! Heck, I can't even remember the last time I got the flu! HOWEVER, I do believe in GOD! YMMV
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Old Savage wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:49 am Then there are clearly aliens who are not demons. Though we don’t know what is included in the definitions of demons. I assume not Elohim or Yahweh Elohim.
it's an interesting perspective. BUT, isn't it a little peculiar to call the OWNER and CREATOR of LIFE and MATTER and LIVING SOULS an 'alien' ? YHWH claims ownership of every soul and all of the earth.

AND YHWH ELOHIM is not two beings, just one. as in "hear O Israel", etc.

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Elohim is apparently both singular and plural like a last name. Let us make man in our image. YHWH Elohim appears to be a particular Elohim. YHWH speaks from the perspective of I … I am that I am. Or ? what I am.

Aliens used as here refers to non humans from the human perspective.
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But this is still a semi free country. Anyone can take any perspective they want on the issue, not that I will give their view any credence if it does not take into account the observable facts.
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YHWH Elohim appears
appearances can fool us. that name is ascribed to God the Father in this instance, and consists of two words. and is descriptive and meaningful in it's context, which is exactly what the original hearers of the expression understood in the context of their time, place, and understanding.

what it appears to be or suggest or to express is meaningless to us unless we can relate our understanding to the original hearers in the original context.

otherwise, something can appear to be something to us COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT.

for example, "Judas went out and hanged himself."
and "go thou and do likewise" are a good illustration of taking scripture out of context, and applying it's appearance, what it appears to mean, and completely missing the mark. :D
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Are you working to take everything in a different context than I meant it? That is not at all what I meant nor does it address the point.
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Old Savage wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:32 pm Are you working to take everything in a different context than I meant it? That is not at all what I meant nor does it address the point.

I try to understand the scripture you quoted in the context in which it was written, with the understanding of the people it was written to, without superimposing my contemporary context. IOW, what would Moses say about your proposition?

There are scriptures that more closely support what I think you meant. But anyway, let's kick this around in, say, a hundred years from now, OK?
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I have watched that whole context canard be used be used to shape the meaning to shape the meaning to whatever the definer of the context wants. Just who gets to decide what the context it and who it was written to?

The point is YHWH is a being and not a man and extraterrestrial.
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Cherry Picking lines of scripture to support a personal belief has probably started more conflict that any other thing. :idea:
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My final reply to all this we look through a glass darkly, we don`t have a clue what has happened in the past or what will happen in the future.
Like Blaine said people read scripture to fit their needs and many are getting rich from it.
Best thing is to leave it in Gods hands trust Him he is in control good or bad and in the end if you believe in him it will be ok.
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Back to this context interjection. Prophesy is not written to the people at the time and history is written for all. Those comprise a significant portion of the scriptures. Might throw in Psalms and Proverbs.

And let's not forget alcoholics hitting the bottle for distorted view and conflict.
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Old Savage wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:57 pm Back to this context interjection. Prophesy is not written to the people at the time and history is written for all. Those comprise a significant portion of the scriptures. Might throw in Psalms and Proverbs.

And let's not forget alcoholics hitting the bottle for distorted view and conflict.

And let's not forget alcoholics hitting the bottle for distorted view and conflict.
Are you thinking of somebody, or just tossing it out there.... :roll:
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Blaine wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:06 pm
Old Savage wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:57 pm Back to this context interjection. Prophesy is not written to the people at the time and history is written for all. Those comprise a significant portion of the scriptures. Might throw in Psalms and Proverbs.

And let's not forget alcoholics hitting the bottle for distorted view and conflict.

And let's not forget alcoholics hitting the bottle for distorted view and conflict.
Are you thinking of somebody, or just tossing it out there.... :roll:
Me too, are you referring to friends or pastors you know ???
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Pitchy wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:28 pm
Blaine wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:06 pm
Old Savage wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:57 pm Back to this context interjection. Prophesy is not written to the people at the time and history is written for all. Those comprise a significant portion of the scriptures. Might throw in Psalms and Proverbs.

And let's not forget alcoholics hitting the bottle for distorted view and conflict.

And let's not forget alcoholics hitting the bottle for distorted view and conflict.
Are you thinking of somebody, or just tossing it out there.... :roll:
Me too, are you referring to friends or pastors you know ???
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Blaine wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:26 pm Lots of people never got the memo about all souls eligible for being saved when you accept Grace...it's there for the asking.
Now THAT is the Gospel right there!
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JimT wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:49 pm
Blaine wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:26 pm Lots of people never got the memo about all souls eligible for being saved when you accept Grace...it's there for the asking.
Now THAT is the Gospel right there!
If we would all just remember this, we could be a whole lot more patient with each other.
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Hadn't heard of Admiral Byrd's diary before...

https://youtu.be/0ybWK61XxOc

Seems odd a civilization could live without detection and without the ecosystem we see essential for life as we know it.

Still interesting to consider.
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JimT, you know what, in spite of you certain religious guys going with all your could bes etc.

Maybe, just maybe, they are extraterrestrial UFOs.

The most constructive interpretative religious descriptions to make everything fit in to any denomination’s or adenomination’s interpretation disguised as humor .. some of the info doesn’t fit.

Or maybe they are terrestrial based for God knows how long.
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well, i ain't religious. i am born again by a sovereign act of the sovereign creator who created all of us, and who offers all of us a choice of eternal future life as a free gift.

i don't promote any religion or denomination or cult or any other thing.

no religion, no denomination, no philosophy, no nothing can gainsay this offer because YHWH cannot lie.

i pass it on for the benefit of anyone who desires to get right with the savior who shed his blood and died for us.

this is not religious, this is acknowledgement and acceptance of Christ's offer. freely offered. nothing unidentified here. just simple binary absolute true truth.

that's all folks, and

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I find the Bible has an important theme all the way through it. Who is the sovereign. Who should rule or govern man.

Life is created on earth..
Life is corrupted on earth and in heaven via a rebel. He questions or causes doubts about God's love or welfare towards his earthly sons.
Basically he lies about God.
Jehovah or Yahweh set in motion the means to answer the rebellion. Give all creation the choice to chose whom is the sovereign. Jehovah or the rebels, the one called Satan the devil. Who incidentally is misleading the whole inhabited earth. Revelations 12:7-10. 1stJohn 5:19. John 8:44
And finally the series of events that destroys the rebellion restoring peace and a return for the earth to its creators original purpose.
Revelations 21: 3&4.

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UFO's are nothing to worry about. They are time-travelling humans from the future.
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Pisgah wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:54 am UFO's are nothing to worry about. They are time-travelling humans from the future.
:lol: ....and they returned!
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A few years ago, a UFO was spotted near Waco, TX. Several credible witnesses saw it. One even got a picture of the stencil "not a step" on the craft. The Air Force still denies it was an experimental aircraft.
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piller wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:11 am A few years ago, a UFO was spotted near Waco, TX. Several credible witnesses saw it. One even got a picture of the stencil "not a step" on the craft. The Air Force still denies it was an experimental aircraft.
Why would Aliens use Air Force stencil warnings on their aircraft?
So that we won't be on our guard when they land to take over, and we won't be ready for disgusting slug-like creatures crawling out to devour us! :o :shock:
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You guys are hilarious and credible on guns. Now just why would we shoot 500 yds with handguns? Elmer’s phony story? ;-)
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Old Savage wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:39 pm You guys are hilarious and credible on guns. Now just why would we shoot 500 yds with handguns? Elmer’s phony story? ;-)
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Read his story, yes phony.

Sorry, article of faith ???

Read his 1936 book on rifles.
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Any idea of the wind drift and drop of a 22 lr from a pistol at 500 yds? Not buying it.

One shot for $100, you in? ;-)

Read Elmer’s version of the story. Others have made much more of it with different details.
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While I have no doubt there are aliens among us masquerading as Democrats trying to destroy our way of life, I have myself seen people hit the "Banana Rock" at Whittington Center which is about the size of a VW bug (but getting smaller every year) at 600 yards, off hand, one handed, in his first shot. I've also been told that a moderate length barrel is more suitable than a long barrel which requires much more hold over. I've also seen a good friend bust a fist sized rock at 100 yards with a 38 Special snubbie in Los Angeles. You don't know until you try! -Tutt
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Some People :roll:
Just because they can't do it, are positive somebody else can't, either. :lol:
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Old Savage wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 11:14 pm Any idea of the wind drift and drop of a 22 lr from a pistol at 500 yds? Not buying it.

One shot for $100, you in? ;-)

Read Elmer’s version of the story. Others have made much more of it with different details.
https://www.shootersforum.com/threads/m ... ds.243955/

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I had a friend about 10 years older than me who spent his teenage years shooting a hundred thousand rounds or so of 22 Long rifle standard velocity out of a little Ivers-Johnson revolver. He would have to ‘walk-in’ his shots, and do it on a calm day, but he would hit quart oil cans at 300 yards which was the length of the abandoned quarry he shot at. The only way to tell was with a spotting scope and setting them on a narrow strip of metal scrap where a hit would usually knock them off; sometimes he’d count hits as misses because it was easy to hit a can and not knock it off, but just make a hole in it.

I’ve actually never been able to hit anything with open sights where the target was smaller than the front sight. I don’t understand how people do that, whether with handgun or rifle. I don’t even understand how they can use low magnification scopes. If I can’t see it clearly, I’m not gonna be able to hit it, so I tend to use higher magnification scope than most people.
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I’ve actually never been able to hit anything with open sights where the target was smaller than the front sight. I don’t understand how people do that, whether with handgun or rifle.
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Wow ! What a thread drift......

Elusive siver disks piloted by anthropomorphic green bugs to a heroic tragically burned and disfigured rancher/guide/author who never let his disabilities slow him down. Read how his (keith's) parents mended his worthless crippled arm/hand with home surgery.

"My left hand was turned upside down and back on my wrist, just a claw extending from the top of my wrist....."

"Mother got a bunch of cotton batts and gauze and soaked them in deer tallow for bandages. Father bought a gallon of 100 proof."

"I told them to follow through no matter how I screamed.....I want this hand straightened whether it is usable or not......"

"I passed out from the pain and crackling noises as dad straightened the fingers by breaking them. When I came to, my hand was strapped to a board used to dry mink and muskrat pelts. If there was any pain that was worse than the morning after the fire then this was it. But the hand and arm were straight and I was mighty proud of it !"
m.A.g.a. !
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Re: A Different Take On UFO's

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CowboyTutt wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:59 pm
I’ve actually never been able to hit anything with open sights where the target was smaller than the front sight. I don’t understand how people do that, whether with handgun or rifle.
Doc, not sure here, but thinking 6 O'clock hold here is what is needed. A "center of mass" hold would not work at all. -Tutt
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