substituted dies for 50-110win

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Montana22
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substituted dies for 50-110win

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cant find any dies for 50-110 win. Tried C4HD and they dont have any and are quite a ways out before they will be making that caliber again.
AM wondering what dies can be substituted and work good for a 50-110 with .512 bullet?
They do have 50 alaskan dies if those work, but thinking the alaskan is .200" shorter case will that die actually full length size a longer 2.4" case?
any ideas?
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Will you need to full length size? I have a Roller that was 11.7X51R. I ran a 45-70 reamer in it and the fired cases are reloaded with ffg, a card wad and a grease cookie. Then I hand seat the bullet without sizing or crimp. Works fine in the single shot but you would need to crimp them. I have a couple hundred odd dies. If I can make the time I'll see if any are 50s.
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hi MM, yes I want to full length resize for ease of chambering. And an expander, seater. and a taper crimp die. that has 7/8" die body threads for rock crusher.
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You might find this linked thread useful.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthrea ... st15560704
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JFE,,yep you and crs are both guiding me in that direction. And i already have the 45-90 dies. Since i have completely struck out on the 50cal dies I may just have to put that project on hold till dies become available. CH4D said it would be march 2023 before they start making 50cal dies again. 2year backlog.
thanks for the thought.
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There is a set of 50-95 dies and brass for sale on the SASS classifieds right now!
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m.m.- I think the 1876 50-95 case dimensions are substantially different from the 1886 50-110.
Finding the correct dies are a must before i start the project, but also so far I havnt gotten any feedback help on machining needed to accomplish this. So think its time to back off a little and wait till I can garner more info.
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I see that you want full length sizing so I respect your opinion on that buuuuut, I have not had any issues when using my 50-70 dies for my 50-100-450. I am using one set of brass in one gun, it has not been a problem for me. Good luck with your search.
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I found some 50-110 dies after about 10 minutes on google! Forget the sites , one price made me gasp, I think it was $464.00 and another was in czechoslovakia, but the brand was listed on other site as out of stock.
I bought mine years ago from RCBS, 15 or so. If I remember the price was about $150.00. I did not see them listed on their site but a phone call might be informative !

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i think rcbs discontinued 50-110. I am going to start making phone calls and forget about the main web sites.
I do understand that there is probably other dies to use. I think 50 Alaskan could be used. But I am not knowledgeable enough at this time to be mixing calibers, dies and cases without finding enough info.
I cant imagine its a very big deal transforming the internals of the 86 to accept a 50cal cartridge But I cant find ANY info on doing the job.
I did see that czech site selling them for 8000. whatever their money is.
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Pricey at $485 but looks like they got them!


https://www.northernshooterssupplies.co ... 0110ds.htm
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Montana22, the story I have heard( I am not an expert and I did not stay at a Holiday INN express last night) was that although the 50-110 or 50-100-450 were factory options, each rifle was a hand built proposition because the frame has to be modified to accept the rim of this case, as well as several other parts. I just got mine back today in the mail and spent my evening assembling some dummy rounds, so I didn't take it apart yet. I am interested in seeing what was modified and to what extent. The man that did mine was honorable, honest and a joy to work with. Mike Hunter restorations. He is a member here, though I don't see him as often as I did years before. I am waiting for Sunday, I foresee some water bottles EXPLODING in the near future.
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