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We had one this weekend. Found some new 35 Rem. brass and some once fired 32-20 and a smattering of 307win and 30-30. Sorely tempted by an 1886 in 40-65 calling me, but light on $$. Lots of older leverguns and even a modern Marlin 375win and one of the 410 shotguns. Three or four 1895 Marlins in 45-...

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Local gun store has 348w brass for $55 / 50

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If I had one, it would be in 45 acp, so I could use the CCI shot loads or make my own shot loads.

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I would say definitely, the barrel has been cut down. Add that it looks like a hole has been drilled in the bolt stop notch of the cylinder, what for I have no idea, unless it was for pressure testing of loads, but that chamber in the cylinder has been rendered useless. Then you have the missing lan...

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That shot capsule opening up in the muzzle brake might cause a few issues!!!

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Don't forget CO. Its turning into CA's little brother

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So, they will shoot feral cattle because of damage to the range, but round up feral horses because of damage to the range, and spend billions feeding/sheltering thousands of them. Makes sense from Gov't.

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If rebarreled with a match type throat, then using 5.56 ammo, I could see where you might break a bolt because of the gun being overgassed/too much port pressure. If a tight throat, shouldn't be any problems going with a 5.56 throat to help lower pressures. The Wylde chamber would be a good option a...

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I have a bunch of Lee, mainly 6 cavity, some from group buys over at castboolits, but mainly now its one of the four I mentioned. Al Nelson, over at NOE and Tom, at Accurate, are good people. Have had great service from Miha (MP) and good moulds from Arsenal (think I have 6 of theirs). I use to get ...

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There are some really good moulds made today. MP, NOE, Accurate, and Arsenal. I have moulds from all four and consider them top notch moulds.

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MP makes some really good moulds. Have some brass 4 cav. (Heavy!!) and a couple of aluminum 8 cav. Weird, but I can get a mould from MP quicker than I can get a letter from WA state, about 1000 miles away

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Sixgun--I hear about the rifle cartridges in the bolt guns. That said, I am one of them. I do have a 308 xp100 and a 358 barrel for it somewhere too. Muzzle brakes on both barrels. I still enjoy shooting the 308 even though I will be 70 this year. Did make a 44/284 for IHMSA. That was a handfull, lo...

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The 357max. in a rifle is quite an eye opener and the 460 S&W in my Ruger #1 is no slouch either. Many of the stories I have heard about the Ruger Maximums mirror what Sixgun has stated. The erosion was self limiting when using the gun as it was designed. Not for pushing lightweight bullets as f...

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Had a CL in 218 Bee and one of the 32 Mag Marlins. Both went down the road. Wished I had the 32mag back!! Wouldn't mind finding a 32-20 Marlin or a Model 53 (missed one by a few hours!!).

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Stay safe down there. Been in a few of them in my younger days. Remember one in the late 60's in North Texas. Visiting Sister in WF town over Christmas. When we drove home, there was, IIRC, 4-6" of ice on the road. Drove down the interstate straddeling the dashed yellow line at about 20 mph. Th...

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An alternative is to send the rifle back to Mr. Taylor and have him run the reamer in ten thousandths deeper. Send a few cases along so he can set the headspace with your particular cases.

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He has the right idea of taking off metal from the front of the rim. Gives proper headspace and you don't have to re-cut the primer pocket and thin the brass around the flash hole. A drill press and a new sharp file might work for you. .010" should go fairly quickly

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I believe the 450B runs at 50K like the 223, but not the 5.56 @62Kpsi, at least in an AR. Bolt gun would be a different story I have only seen the 45 Raptor suggested for the AR10. Thinking about making a bolt gun for the 45 Raptor, but I have a #1 in 460 S&W. C.T.--funny you mention the 416/284...

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C.T.---Sounds like you are talking about the 450 Bushmaster. Its based on the 284 Win. Another one close would be a 45 Raptor, which is based on the 308 win, but 1.8" long and cylindrical. Basically a rimless 460 S&W. You can use 45 Colt dies to load it.

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LGS got on in to sell on consignment. Got to take a good look at it. I would guess a 50-60% gun. Grips are in excellent shape and bore looks good. Needs a bit of cleaning, but didn't see any pitting. Don't think I have ever seen one before in person. Kind of neat to see a 132 yr old gun in good shap...

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I would definitely go with the .380. Heck, I carry a 22 lots of times. Would you take a rifle Polar Bear Hunting, that would only fire 80% of the time? Or go Elk hunting and come across a 350 yard shot on an 8x8 and have the latest 300 whiz bang magnum that only fires 80% of the time, or a 30-06 tha...

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I will bet that you are right about that!!! Now, if the case was designed with a smaller rim, say .473" in diameter so a regular 308 bolt face would work, then maybe it could have been put in an inexpensive bolt gun. That should give roughly .025" per side rim diameter, over case diameter....

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Only drawback to the 360 buckhammer in a bolt gun, is the rimmed cartridge. Don't think Remington will bring back the 788 , but maybe Savage could the 340. Other than those, I cannot think of a bolt gun that would handle a rimmed cartridge as the Buckhammer.

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Maybe someone from the Western Slope, near Basalt can stop by and see if they might be there. I would be cautious

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"We need a Like button" if I translate that correctly.

Hmm---maybe take my BFR in 30-30 and slap a new .357" barrel on it and rechamber the 30-30 cylinder. Wonder if JES reboring would do the barrel if I pulled it off?

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Maybe 45 acp and taking thompson mags

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Hmmm--have a 357 mag. Handi barrel that could be turned into a 360 BS errr BH. Just need a reamer, brass , dies and a new extractor!!

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Not really negative here, about the new cartridge. If I lived in a straight wall state, I would be leaning towards the 360 over the 350, but I have a 357max rifle, so I am good. Too bad NEF wasn't still in business, I could use a barrel for the 360, just for the heck of it. Would stock up on brass o...

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Perhaps they should have named it the the 360 BuckStomper or 360 B.S. for short

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I believe the max pressure for the 357 max. was beyond what most leverguns would take. A stretched '92 would have worked well I think.

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357 mag, stainless 24" Octagonal barrel.

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Unique or Universal Clays

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I have singly loaded rounds made from 308 win brass and they eject just fine. You could probably make 356 from 444 marlin if thats all you could find.

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Try a piece of 9.3 x 74R brass and see if it fits. Read it works well in making brass 410's.

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I had a Marlin 30-30 XLR converted to 356 Win. No deer/elk has been stupid enough to cross my path when I am carrying it. If I was after squirrels, it would be well bloodied. I counted 13 at one time, while I was on a stand, one morning.

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I have one the the inexpensive 410 o/u and its I/c and full!!! Wish it had choke tubes on that one barrel. Would much prefer a mod choked barrel on that one tube. Took it to the skeet range one day. Didn't think 17 was too bad. Would love to take it out after bobwhite quail someday, but everywhere I...

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I use to use Blue Dot for my round ball loads in my 12 ga. I think it and Unique are used often in slug loads.

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I have a 262 gr SWC mould I got for my 41mag Blackhawk and promptly sold the gun. It shoots well in my 40-65 though

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I have a seldom fired S&W 25-2 in 45 acp. At least , seldom fired when I got it. AR brass drags on the recoil shield a bit and 45 acp brass is a pain to pry out of the cylinder, so I tried the Cowboy special brass and loaded it just like a 45 AR. Worked great being 45 acp in length. Takes a bit ...

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C.T.---the alloy I mainly use for pistol and rifle to about 1800fps is Wheelweights and Isotope alloy (96-3-1) in a 50/50 ratio. Any faster and its more of a cross of WW's and #2 with a little copper added (0.2%)

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I have one in a Ruger American. Loading the 165 FTX to 2100fps. Groups under 1"@100yds. Haven't bloodied it yet, but hope to do that within about 3 weeks if an unlucky whitetail walks by and the weather cooperates.

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Got mine in.

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I bake my powder coated boolits at 400 degrees. If I water quench them when casting, powder coating will negate the heat treating, but you can take the coated boolits right from the oven and quench in cold water to re heat treat them. You get your powder coating and hardness too. I have taken powder...

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Looks like a "D" weight barrel on that thumper. My 375 H&H has the lighter "C" weight barrel. Think they had a run of 45-70's with the "C" weight barrel. Almost bought one, wish I would have. Would like a "D" weight barrel, or at least a "C" weig...

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I usually turn the timer on my oven for 30 min. Gives the boolits time to heat up to baking temp. matter of fact, I did some 245gr rnfp for my 44, this evening.

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IIRC, he also took a polar bear with the 357. Also, the loads back then were hotter than today. IIRC, the pressures were around 40K psi

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With gas checks, he should be fine. He can always water quench from the mould to get a harder bullet. The QL velicities predicted might be spot on or maybe a tad bit low. The big bore I was working with hit 1600fps. Pleasant load compared to the full throttle stuff.

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Take this with a grain of salt, but I read somewhere, in the past, that the best load will be found around 90-95% fill to the base of the bullet. In a big bore rifle I was working with, I started around 45% and worked my way up. Best group was around 92%. The stuff is kind of unobtanium around here,...

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Maybe 1/2 teaspoon of lemi-shine(I have read a 9mm case is plenty--don't want too much as it might start pulling zinc out of the alloy), 1/2 tablespoon of Dawn, and same of the car wash/wax in a gallon jug of water. I really just eyeball it, probably closer to a tablespoon of the car wash/wax. I tum...

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When I wet tumble, I use lemi-shine, dawn, and auto liquid car wash/wax. The car stuff leaves a faint wax coating on the brass and the shine doesn't degrade much.

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