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CoyoteNose, I didn't reread this thread just now, but followed it several days ago. But I'm assuming you hadn't found any definitive original reload data of the original Winchester loads. But I was just reading an article by Brad Dunbar from the Spring 2023 WACA Magazine "Late Season 33", ...

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I'll say truth of one thing. I quit packing autos in these woods many moons ago, SS so much better for packing. But if I was young, starting over, this is the one and only auto id consider! He's had it about 3 years, I've shot it quite a bit, but not hunted with it. But it is almost as light as my S...

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My brother came up yesterday, he lives about 1.5 hour away. We loaded up on the Honda Mule, took him to a little patch of hickories I found couple years ago. They sit in a big slow sloping swag, surrounded by oak and other hardwoods that have regrown from past logging. I'd not hunted it before, ther...

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Hey, finished product looks great to me! Actually for most deer hunting around here, that'd be hard to beat, brush & heavy cover deer rifle 2nd to none, a 12ga slug is awesome load. Can't hunt with 00Buck here, but lotta states down south permit it, and rightfully so!

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#4, 5, or 6 is 95% of what every hunter around here has always used. #5 would be my choice to settle upon for one for all! However, I past idk, seems 20 years most companies have quit making 16ga in #5 shot, according to what's being sold anyways. Fiocchi is only company I've seen selling #5 shot in...

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You know, this thread has convinced me that I need to take Dad's old Model 37 16 for a walk in the Gila National Forest and look for grays. Squirrel season here starts September 1 and runs through November 30. I notice all I have right now for ammo is this box of Vintage Remington paper shells in N...

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This thread is so good, especially with that link you just posted CN, I'm saving it for good! I know one thing for sure? I just really became aware of the "good possibilities for my personal hunting", the 33wcf could've been all along, if I had one! Really just discovered it's strong point...

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Loved this movie since I saw it when first came out, when? But them two where the ultimate to play the characters they portrayed, and probably my two favorite actors ever, considering the men they really where! Bronson raised in coal mining camp in Pennsylvania, a tail gunner on i believe B25. Marvi...

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Yes they do, best my memory. We, my dad n brothers never rabbit hunted. My uncle that squirrel hunted so often with us, when I was young had a beagle that him n cousins rabbit hunted, I went few times is all. I haven't ate a rabbit since I was a kid. Really they're best eating best I remember, but t...

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Thanks everyone, anyone who's spent any time in good squirrel woods, most all say same thing? Not much in the hunting world any more fun! And as to the gun, i can honestly say, I've yet to hunt with a Singleshot i didn't like! Few autos wasn't crazy about several pumps, but in ones preferred bore, a...

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It sure is a beautiful rifle, and apparently a one of a kind! Good luck finding out what you're looking for towards it. No better rifle & cartridge to be in a baffle with, wish I could help, but I'm not 33 knowledgeable! Wouldn't mind be in same circumstances with it myself, it'd be an enjoyable...

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The ole 16ga barked only 5 times!

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Own three original Winchester 1886 rifles in 33 WCF and reload for them with C-H dies in that caliber. Also have 3 or 4 boxes of W-W original ammunition. These old boxes are collectible, as are the cartridges inside. These are nickel steel smokeless 86 rifles, including one full magazine rifle made...

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This is an outstanding thread, an 86 in 33wcf being to me the most desirable for my use, I'd sure like to try for a hunting rifle, but they're as rare as hens teeth and cost a fortune if possible, plus the next to no components to reload! And I'm in the thought agreement of Six, as concerning the ne...

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Can't help but recall? When I was 18, I went work in Coal Mines, Young and Dumb, and full of C--e, a Wildcat with the brain of a Mole! Immediately had a Co-Worker, Mentor! He's mid 30's, born and raised in Southern Indiana. Squirrel hunter, coon hunter, deer hunter, embedded from that farm country! ...

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Man it sure does, that rings many a bell! When I was packing whatever auto I wanted from my dad's collection. I bought me an 870 12ga when I went to work. Then not long, I bought a 37a 12ga? Instant walking stick, turned squirrel getter when ready! Oh the beautiful simplicity-function of the SS! Onl...

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I guessed cartridge n bullet right! Most people say? Ah got lucky! But I know the truth, correct answer? Luck=where preparation & opportunity come together!

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Now that's for sure, Drawing down! What cartridge?

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I'm same about good reading. Started couple times order both myself from Wolfe, but went for something else, for the reasons you stated, but I'd still like to get it someday. Ive got my boy looking for the "Big Bore Rifles and Cartridges", he'll no doubt get it for me soon i hope! And I'm ...

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If you don't have a place to shoot every day, you can still buy snap caps and practice aiming and firing every day. It keeps the shooter practiced during times they can't shoot. I did this every day when I shot bullseye matches during off season, or between matches. Helps with muscle memory. Anothe...

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I was specifically working on follow through yesterday. Howard Hill used to teach that when you loose the arrow “with both arms do nothing!” I have a tendency to get off the trigger too quickly when the hammer falls. So I’m training myself to keep the same pressure on the trigger through the recoil...

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Absolutely a beneficial way to practice, handgun or rifle. Ive just never been handgun enthused, but I've known guys who squirrel hunted successfully with the various S&W 22 Revolvers. Ive had the old Taurus Mod?, 39 maybe but I forget been so long since I've held it out. Buts it's a clone to my...

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Man what a great looking old SG! A model I'd never heard of, and I've been in middle lotta old shotgun users n traders since 60's! But glad you got it ok, id went crazy with that ordeal!

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Me n my best friend both bought one in 12ga 3" after we graduated HS in 77. Killed lotta squirrels with both for number years, but we used his for fox n predator hunting at night, 3" magnum for that. We split 2 barrels on the last couple inches. The full choke was very short, looked like l...

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Took it back out yesterday right after daylight, primarily to just walk in woods in low light, shoulder it at many make-believe deer=stumps, logs trees, anything! To test my eyes with the sights in hunting conditions, something I'd not done with this rifle! I'd taken it when I first got it few times...

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I went out yesterday to zero my M94 Carbine. Hadn't shot it since last year, and my previous sight setting i wasn't satisfied with. I had done all the windage adjustments by drifting the front sight, and I believe a zero at 50yds was hitting too far right at 100yds, so I started over, and basically ...

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Watched it earlier, good looking rifles and shooting!

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Oh ok thanks. I'd love its twin brother, no experiences with 38-72, but betting it make me a dandy WT cartridge! It is a beauty!

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Love it, but what sights are on it, I can't see any?

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Yes thanks, good stuff! I'm fairly certain, 99% anyways, he's the same guy whose video i watched, idk? 7-8 years ago, when I was looking how to make a true chuck wagon beef stew, but for me primarily, venison stew. Because when I process my own deer, I wind up with lotta really good stew meat, same ...

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I saw that several days ago, but be honest i didn't know they were for sale, guess I didn't listen to first part! But quite a beautiful collection, from my favorite of only a few actors i admire! He's stood firm best i can tell his entire career for what we believe in! And all his Western Movies i t...

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Bill, I've looked those Kiblers over several years back, downright Lustful! Wish I'd gotten one, or it's equal, maybe Tennessee Valley Muzzleloaders, or few more similar! Just wouldn't be beneficial to me now, my eyesight, those great iron sights on them! But I know, I'd had time my life in my young...

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JBowen, my Squirrel Road about identical to your description, and 00's other young men here back then! Our Mountain Ancestors were no doubt, the best shooters ever walk this planet, with their handmade Southern Mt Rifles! I always said since time i was in my late 20's, I was gonna get me a good cust...

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Yes it is, dangerous towards your $livelihood, and nervous system! Especially when those mod 86's in 33wcf or Mod 71's start taunting me!

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I've ate em all my life, still consider em amongst a favorite! Gray n Fox both good, but grays are better. Squirrel meat is for most part neutral, and that's a plus, seasoning to taste! But growing up, all men of my family and most friends were Squirrel Hunters, it was truly a way of life. My mom wa...

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IMG_4124.jpegIMG_4127.jpeg Bearskinner, thanks for the post & pics! I fell in love with the Mod 1876 first time i saw Tom Horn. I didn't know the difference back then between an 66, 76, 86 in any detail anyways, no info around here of them. All I knew about was 94s n 336s in 30-30 & 35Rem, ...

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For most my Leverguns Lusting years it was either a Mod 1876 in 45-60 or a especially a Mod 71 in 348W. But ever since learning of the 33wcf in an Mod 86, this is the one! Just know this rifle & cartridge would fill my fancy for hunting, shooting, and reloading with a truly great old Winchester!

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Hey I'm impressed very much by the 50yd & 100yd! Look at best 7 of 10 @ 100yds, guessing aprox 2", and i doubt that rifle has anywhere near a benchrest trigger, like most leverguns!

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Good shooting and i love that rifle, especially in that barrel & mag configuration!

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I'm an old something or another? But I believe my profile says registered 2020-21? But I was cruising this forum i know late 2000's-2020. In fact at my former residence I had a computer, and was maybe registered under a different name, but I can't be sure? I used to be on RinfireCentral on regular b...

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I tried get on here several days ago, first time in while. Tried all day long, thought OhNo it's gone? Glad you'll got it back from whatever the cause!

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Well done, thanks for sharing!

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This is a great thread and challenge for all the 44-40 Shooters! Another reason I wish I had a 73 & 44-40 to get into! But enjoyed your reports on the Rem 700 30-06 Mt Rifle very much, I've just recently got a 700 30-06 AD, I'm looking forward to shooting soon. I got a new 50rd bag of Starline b...

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That 303 has an almost perfect reputation in the deer woods, and seems especially to hunting friends down south. It seems it scores just like Baby Bears Soup in not to much meat damage, not many long tracking jobs, hardly any lost deer, regardless of reasonable ranges, not to much recoil, etc, in ot...

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This place is my longtime favorite, and I've stated that to others on other sites plenty times! I don't remember when I first found it, gotta guess early 2000's. But I didn't join for a lotta years, but was always reading up all along, because back then I was just getting serious about deer hunting ...

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Excellent and a brute hog! I say often to some guys in south georgia, I sure wish we had hogs to hunt here! I've been trying take my M94 Carbine in woods, but everytime I get opportunity it's raining.

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Thanks for the link mm93, I'm gonna get that book along with Venturino's "Shooting Leverguns of the West" when I get the $s to spare. Love the TOW Site, got on it a lot last summer. I got out my old CVA 45cal ML for first time since early 80's, cleaned it up, got stuff together, which most...

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I'll keep that book in mind, and try to get it. I looked this morning for his mentioning Peterson in that book, but he's not in it. I consider the Robert's book I have as probably my all time favorite book! In fact I took it to an old coworker for him to read this morning. He's biggest & and mos...

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Thanks for his story! I sure don't recall ever hearing of him, but as much old gun n shooting books as I've read, his name just never rung a bell! Another very interesting character of the golden years of American Guns! Not surprising that many folks haven't heard of Axel Peterson today, and likely...

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