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Thanks Gunsmith. I checked case head size for 348 and 33 and thought they were the same. I may be mistaken here though. I have often heard the 1886 is weaker than the 71. Since it is the same design is this due to metallurgy? I am not concerned with brass....I'll find some eventually or make it like...

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Yeah, it looks like junior might be in danger at first, but actually Dad is slightly behind him, and the gun is angled back even more.

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What, exactly, is the difference between the regular 33 WCf, the lightweight 33 WCf and the extra Lightweight 33WCF? The takedown 33 WCF...what configuration was that in (LW, XLW, Regular)? How punishing is the recoil in the XLW model? Could the 33 WCF be had in octagon bbl and cresent butt? The rea...

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Here is another photo, this one undated. The Dad is shooting a Remington 1912, the boy...is it an old Stevens or Hamilton? The girl is hiding the receiver with her hands. Wow...Dad and the kids out hunting. Check out the clothes the girl hunts/shoots in! And lets not forget to put a tie on the boy w...

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I wonder what caliber his is in. Did he bust it with a 38-55 or was it a 25-36? Of course, did he even shoot it? Maybe Sam shot it and let Joe carry it LOL! I wish the picture came with all this info but frankly, at least i know the exact date and the state it was taken in! Some of the other ones I ...

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Is that guy from Idaho??? I never heard of using potatoes...would be VERY leary of a moisture explosion covering you with molten lead.

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Bwanadave, I dont think it is an 1890 winchester. The forearm on those are straight "corncobs", whereas this one has a taper on top, much like the Model 12 or 1912 remington. Leverdude, thanks for IDing the Marlin....how do you know it is an 1893?? Why not their 1894 model? (I dont know my...

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Caliber? Year of mfg???? Neat old one. About 2 years ago I passed on a 1912 mfg 1894 in 30 WCF because it was cut down and somewhat beat. They only wanted 175 though. Changed my mind, drove back to the gunshow and it was GONE!
looks like you got a nice shooter with some history thrown in...good job.

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I wondered too about the dressing up bit. Always assuming it was a planned hunt...never thought of it as being a "target of opportunity" thing. BTW, checked a 1927 calander and August 4 was a Thursday.

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There have been some old photos posted from others on this site, I too have picked up a few at flea markets, etc and hope you fellow levergunners find them interesting. Here is one dated 1927. looks like one guy is shooting a marlin, the other is maybe a remington model 12???? Tang sight on the Marl...

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I was wondering too. The cylinder is too long in proportion for it to be a Navy...I was thinking maybe a Colt Dragoon. Of course, it could be one of the knock-offs like a Manhattan or a Cooper. One thing for sure... it isnt a Uberti!!

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The tall guy in the back must be "Security"

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Wow, a long time ago I read a book called "How I wanted to put salt on a rabbits tail and other outdoor stories". It was translated from Russian and was quite interesting about hunting and outdoor pursuits in Russia in the late 1800's.

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I wonder if that kid is still alive? (That isn't you in your younger days is it Sixgun?)

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Sure wish they'd tool up for 45-75 brass though

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Not a squirrel yet, but did bag this rabbit with a Colt 1851 navy a few years ago.

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22 Long

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I have not been able to do that with Dads trapper in 30 WCF. Here are chronographed loads out of the trapper versus what the manuals state for normal barrels. note first number is what the manual states, second is what I measured ie: manual/chrono Sierra 110 gn HP (singly loaded since it is a HP): 2...

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Notified by my union rep yesterday that I may be on the chopping block.....tool and die maker, 10 years experience. Age 48, TERRIBLE back (5 broken/blown out discs/vertebrae), stuck with a house that will not sell in NE ohio which typically is depressed economically even when things are going good e...

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edward young....the greatest post i've read. I need to know, as everybody (well.....every single guy anyway) at work loves it and wants to know if you made these up. So where did you get them???

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Guns and ammo had an article titled "cap and Ball resurrection" awhile back. I saved it but dont have the date on it. Val Forgett of Navy arms sold Colt rough castings so Colt could make the 2nd gens at hartford from 1971-1973. These are the "C" series 2nd gens. In 1973 Lou Imper...

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And I was actually expecting to see boobs on a footlocker as I was clicking the link!

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keep it simple. I agree with wind

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Judging by the examples of JUNK they put out, under the guise of FIREARMS, I can only wish them a speedy demise. The '76s I've seen (from Chaparral) would not be a credit to a bunch of crack-smokin' 7th-grade shop students.Regards Buck Well, those 7th grade shop students must have more skill than I ...

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Plink regularly with a Savage 30 single shot that i modified into a takedown backpack gun, and in addition I made a shotgun barrel for it (use it to shoot down flying insects in the summer with shot loads...great fun) and a Ruger single six. LOVE the caliber. Lots of ammo choices and once you find a...

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Grizzly, absolutely no disrespect taken. Simply email me your email and I will scan the 3 articles and email them to you. They appeared in the quarterly "Black Powder Cartridge News" Fall and Winter 1997 and spring 1998. The match was in Miles City Montana, the gun a Uberti 1873 with the f...

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.22 mag, but i think that was introduced in 1959

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None the less I still wont do it. Frank De Haas in his excellent book "Bolt Action Rifles" mentions the difference between a strong action and a safe action. There is a difference. I believe he was talking about some countries WW2 rifle being very strong, but IF there was a gas leak (ie: c...

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I wonder if it is true. Hope so.

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Check this out
http://www.handloads.com/calc/index.html
Using this for my Lyman 457122 solid (wt= 335, dia = .459, using 80%Lino/20%lead) I get a BC of .199
With wheelweights (358 and .458") BC= .214

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Had these cartridges awhile....thought they were misfires due to the primer craters. A few days ago I got a good look at them and it seems the primers are unfired. They have what appears to be a copper insert in them with the "W" winchester stamp. Odd. Anybody know what this is?? Are they ...

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Yes I heard that, altho the version I read did not pertain to the wagon box fight or powder fouling, the guy that took the sideplates off had a jammed cartridge in his 1873.. he took the sideplates off using his knife as a screwdriver.( I think i may even have his rifle, as most of my 1873's have bu...

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I firmly believe todays BP is not the same as the BP they used in the 1800's. I have had guns refuse to function due to fouling after only a few shots with todays BP. There is no way the consumer back then whose life depended upon their gun would put up with that. I am convinced.

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I just snuck online here at work.....My standard load for the Chaparral 1876 in 45-75 is Triple 7, but I also shoot a lot of Pyrodex RS. I am one of those that wont try the smokeless powders in my toggle link or trapdoor style guns. Even with the new ones. My concern is not the strength of the new m...

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Boy am I gonna tick people off here...but here goes.... Its ugly, yes, but so are.......well, that plastic "gun" from Austria that everybody in the world but me ohhhs and ahhs over. And they sure sell. Ruger has a lightweight gun here...not everybody lives in friendly states..and small and...

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I checked with Graf, my Jamison 45-75 brass has been on backorder with them since April of 2007!!! So I make all my brass out of .348. Get about 20-25 uses out of them b4 they get tossed. I have to neck anneal twice during fireforming and then every 8-10 uses. PITA to make, I sure hope Jamison can c...

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The lowly 22 LONG. Thats right. In the semi populated areas I sometimes squirrel hunt I prefer not to use the LR with its 40gn bullet. I like using a 30gn bullet in case of deflection off a tree branch etc. I'll use the short, but sometimes I have feeding problems in the 22's I'd use. The long is t...

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Wow! Okay, so we have .170, .210, or .274! So far! I'll have to do some of the calculations myself since I am shooting 80%lino/20%lead and thus my bullet weight is way down.

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The lowly 22 LONG. Thats right. In the semi populated areas I sometimes squirrel hunt I prefer not to use the LR with its 40gn bullet. I like using a 30gn bullet in case of deflection off a tree branch etc. I'll use the short, but sometimes I have feeding problems in the 22's I'd use. The long is th...

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Thanks Idiot. I need the BC for a ballistics program I got out of a 1980's era American Rifleman magazine. Have been using it for years and it really does a good job predicting trajectories. The newer computer ones seem to baffle me. Is there a way i can figure the BC since I have bullet length, sha...

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Anybody know it or how to figure it out for the Lyman 457122?? It is a HP, but I plugged the mould so it casts as a solid. Does that change the ballsitic coefficient? Does the alloy (ie: weight change) make a difference, or is it just a function of length and diameter??

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Wow...I guess I joined the wrong gun range. About 200 members and not ONE of them looks like these girls. Heck, I dont think we even have a girl at our range.

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14" of fresh new snow 2 nights ago...2" more added yesterday...I LOVE IT! Took out a second model 1873 in 44 WCF to try out and to walk through my woods..shooting at targets of oppurtunity (ie: snow clumps on the trunks of distant trees). Found some crow tracks, some deer tracks, and some ...

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Awesome...wonder if it was his own gun or the studios???
Is that your cabinet card rangerider?? I look on ebay and at flea mrkets for these old photos with guns in them and they are rather high priced the few times I do find them.

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We have had a couple of posts on favorite cartridges...how about LEAST favorite cartridges?? Now, i know that if your least favorite cartridge is someone elses favorite it may cause some difficult feelings, kind of like telling a dog owner you dont like dogs, or telling someone their kid is a brat.....

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The real question is how do you southern guys stand the heat? I'll take a frosty day over bugs, humidity, mosquitoes, sweating, bees, pollen, flies, lawn cutting, ants, sunburn, etc etc ANYDAY.

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Hi. I have a Chaparral 1876 and I LOVE mine the way it is...one of the prettiest guns I own. I guess you got one of the bad ones. Let me also add a disclaimer here...I am not a metallurgist or gunsmith either, but I do tinker with them and my profession is a tool and die maker in the automotive sect...

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Otto, the medal on the far left is a replica indian wars service medal I picked up on ebay several years ago. To those that are responding to this....remember, the question was not "if you were limited to one cartridge what would it be", the question is which cartridge is your favorite for...

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hmmmm 50-70...awesome.
Ray, you can only pick ONE.

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