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elmo,
I suspect that amongst the membership here you'd be able to cobble together either components or loaded ammo. There are a lot of hoarders here

. Get the rifle if you want it, and then let the ammunition scavenger hunt begin.....

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Shasta, Congrats. I too have been carrying max points for ten years, but have been applying for the Doyle muzzleloader hunt. This year I recieved notice of a nevada bull elk tag three days before the CA deadline so I opted for bonus points instead. Over on Jesse's hunting and outdoor forum there are...

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I have some various tidbits that may or may not help: 1. Jamison makes 40-82 brass 2. I have some original 40-70 wcf cases that have wall thickness around .009 to .010. I would expect this to be comparable to vintage 40-82 brass. 3. The Jamison brass has about .001 thinner walls 4. Forster makes an ...

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Welcome to the fire, and to the 71 clan. Shoot it and enjoy. Here, you will likely find the answer to any question you can dream up about the 71s.

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Thanks for all the input guys. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and I thinks it's a great looking piece. It's a period conversion from a time long gone and I appreciate it for what it is. I have no illusions about it's collectibility and have no intention of changing anything on it, except perh...

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Thanks for all the comments guys, and keep 'em coming. I am collecting all suggestions and leaning toward (a) tinkering with as many home remedies as are feasible just to make sure it's nothing simple (including switching out the carrier with my buddy's 1895 - good suggestion 8) ). If that doesn't w...

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Congratulations! I think it's a great buy. The barrel should be marked COLT FRONTIER SIX SHOOTER, (BISLEY MODEL). If the cylinder has the rampant colt stamped on the rear, you can see it through the loading gate if you rotate the cylinder, it's a 2nd generation. Hope you enjoy it. I've never liked ...

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:D :D :D The more I play with it, the more I realize this is a very nice conversion. I feel very fortunate to have acquired this little jewel. And it compliments my 3rd gen 44 sp quite nicely, I think. Here she is..... http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSC_0760R.jpg http://www.hunt101.com/data/...

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I thought about it for three months. I went back two weeks ago thinking if he still has it, it was meant to be, and I'd make an offer. He did, so I did. I offered 7, he countered at 9, we settled on $800 Picked it up today after the ten day CA waiting period. I'm happy. It's a very nice handling six...

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The rifle has a new barrel, mag tube, bedded stock, and action/trigger job. I've tried factory Remington, Leverevolution, and 405 and 500 LFNs from Ten-X. The problem has occured with all the ammo. I have printed all of the suggestions here as well as Earl's stuff in the other thread. I tinkered a b...

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...was locking up as the cartridge was sliding onto the lifter. One of the additional symptoms was that the cartridge case was being heavily gouged along its length. Bingo...sounds just like mine. Good information...I will look into that. But I haven't noticed any significant damage to the cases ye...

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You're asking ME..? I'd sell it, tomorrow, to someone I didn't like at all, and leave in a whirlwind to find a Winchester 1886, which I would buy and never look back.. Stronger and easier to carry than any Marlin built... (Or a 71, but you already knew that...) Well, I've got the 1886s and 71s cove...

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After a long search a few years ago I bought a Marlin 1895S 45-70. I wanted the pre-safety, pistol gripped rifle for a conversion I was planning with David Clements, to 348 DC. That's about the time the 338 ME came out and made the 348 DC sort of impractical, from a money standpoint. But the rifle w...

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I bought a Winchester 70 243 Featherweight in 1985 as soon as I turned 12. I'd been saving my 4-H pig money for two years. Also bought the Bushnell 2.5-8x36 (which was pretty good glass then) that it still wears. It's about ready for my oldest boy to start slaying mulies with :) My oldest by manufac...

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I just saw it a few nights ago (pay per view) and liked it a lot. The very first scene before the opening title sure set the stage for the rest of the movie. I had to rewind it to catch everything that happened. I never actually counted, and I may be wrong, but it sure seemed like barron's son had a...

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Zoner, If you end up going to a gunsmith, you don't have too many options in SD. Duncan's in San Marcos is about the only choice for the older stuff. They are very good but they take forever (plan on at least 6 months). Also, they know they sort fo have a monopoly around here and thus, they aren't c...

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They're asking those prices but are they selling? I've observed quite a drop in the 71s recently, particularly the carbines. I'm seeing more and more 71s listed but not a lot are selling at those high prices. They relist over and over while the prices continue to drop. It isn't too hard to find a de...

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That's a very nice rifle considering all. I agree with Sixgun about the premium for the SB but would guess considerably more premium for the three-digit number,maybe 50%. The round barrel knocks it back down a little. The kill notches, IMO, do not diminish the value and if anything make it all the m...

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Chad nice looking winchesters was the hog good eating or not? are you going up north to chase elk this fall. danny Yes...very good eating. Mostly sausage and hams. No elk this year, but I have three deer tags between Utah and Cali. Thanks for the compliment. I have a thing for half-mag Winchesters.

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Interesting thought BigSky...you cross a 71 and a 55 and out pops a 64, sure enough. I have both a 55 and a 71, and also a special order ltwt 1894 that is an early predecessor to the 55. My 55 is an early takedown with a Lyman 21 and a Sheard front that I squared off a bit. It's been used for leverg...

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Going up after he declines your 1st offer is easy, but when he jumps on your first bid, you offered too much. I like the gun just the way it is and would not be looking to change anything. I like the sights. It's been milled and altered to accept the adustable sights, which is one of teh things tha...

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This is great information - thanks to all of you. I knew I had come to the right place (af course). I was thinking I'd offer about $800 adn see what happened, but now it looks like more may be warranted. I am not considering as a collector, but rather as a unique shooter with a pretty decent pedigre...

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Of the ones I own, in the same caliber....
Win 94 Trapper and Ruger Vaquero in 44 mag

Different calibers....
Winchester 1886 45-70 and Colt SAA in 44

Dreaming....
The Billy the Kid duo - Pre-1880 Winchester 1873 and Colt 1877 Lightning DA

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I have been oogling over a Colt's Frontier Six Shooter that I need assistance putting a value on. It is a 4-3/4" barrel, Bisley grip, that appears to have been converted in the 50s (based on sights) to a 44 sp with "Micro" front and adjustable rear sights. Serial is in the 283xxx rang...

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Happy birthday gentlemen!

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I agree with the above, and have the same basic guns in my arsenal, repalcing the Ruger Mark-xxx with a Browngin Buckmark. Otherwise spot on. I think that for the younger generations, the 1911 gets added fairly late in the game, and it is more common to see a plastic semi auto in the 9mm persuasion ...

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40-70 wcf Mr 71 fan--Lets talk about that 40-70----Wadda lookin' fo?? I want that '86 !--------Sixgun Hah, Hah! So do I!! It's been at the 'smith's for two years getting the new barrels made and the restoration work. I've never shot the darn thing. I'm ready though - I have all the dies (which was ...

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I have wittled it down a lot in the past few years. Not enough time to enjoy them all. Two or three years ago this list would be double. Here's what still around: 22 lr 30 wcf 33 wcf 348 Win 38-55 40-70 wcf 44 mag/sp 45-70 gov't 50 Express Hey 71Fan, Is there any reason more than others you hang on...

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I have wittled it down a lot in the past few years. Not enough time to enjoy them all. Two or three years ago this list would be double. Here's what still around:
22 lr
30 wcf
33 wcf
348 Win
38-55
40-70 wcf
44 mag/sp
45-70 gov't
50 Express

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Here's a few I like to look at on my desktop... http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSC_0032_2_1.JPG Vintage Redfields on a B-86, Win 1886 and Marlin 39 http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSC_00466.JPG A 71 and '86 orgy http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/IMG_06623.JPG Marlin 1895S Clement...

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My years are much fewer than you guys, so my list is much shorter...eight verhicles, all of which were/are used off-road heavily for hunting, exploring, etc. The Landcrusier / LX470 platform is second to none, IMO, for exploring and daily driving. Except the gas mileage bites. 1973 IH Scout 1989 Dod...

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I have heard/read that no takedowns were case colored, even going back to the first TDs in 1894. All blued. I've never seen a case colored TD so I tend to believe this to be the case (pun intended :D ). I suppose there could be a few special order ones around though. That's a nice looking Winchester...

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OK. I got this one nailed.... Dan Wesson 15-2 357, with two grips and three barrels (same caliber per rules :wink:). 2", 4" and 8" would cover conceal carry / home defense, plinking, and silhouette / hunting. I'd probably keep a scope on the 8". I have a rule of always being able...

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Happy anniversary Ji...congrats, and good health be yours. I can't imagine a nicer place to recuperate. It's always nice to see an old face pop back in and say hello.

I'm enjoying the Kaua'i sun with my family as I type this.

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I had one of similar vintage (also 45-70) where the half-cock was only about 1/16" from the fire position. It didn't even come all the away off the firing pin, and you could barely tell it hit half-cock. I didn't like it. I got some pictures of some other '86 hammers and my half-cock notch was ...

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Droid 2 by Motorola, Android OS, Verizon. I could practically run my business from it, and do quite often when I'm in the field. Camera is great, full QWERTY slide-out keyboard. It's basically a full laptop in your pocket, with great coverage. I replaced a blackberry and IMO this is far superior. Ev...

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The buckskins actually fit, which seems to be a good indicator in these old pics. Rifle looks like an 1886, which would have been rich for a studio gun, and also a fine elk rifle, of course. I'd guess he is the real deal and that's his rifle, although I question whether that is his elk. The elk: gre...

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If you must convert something your already own, you may also try Wild West Guns (Marlin TD conversions) or Wind River Rifle (Winchester TD conversions). As stated earlier, you will probably be better served buying an original or repro (Miroku) TD for under $1k and you'll still be ahead. As a side no...

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Out of the firearms I already own...

Remington 700 30-06
Marlin 39A
Remington 870 12g
H&K USP 40

Including ones I don't own....
Remington 700 30-06
Ruger 77/22 22 mag
Remington 870 12g
S&W 686 4" 357

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I have no experience with Leupold or Nikon binos, but have two hunting buddies that have both traded in Nikons to get Leupolds. I have been using Steiner 9x40 Safaris for a while and love them. Once you get accustomed to the auto-focus feature they are very comfortable for long hours behind the glas...

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This is good info. We have a family reunion in Big Sky in early July, and will be driving through Yellowstone and Tetons/Jackson on the way home. My wife's family is from Bozeman and Harlowton. Too bad I can't strap the wife and kids on the back of a motorcycle...it sounds like the only way to go :D

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A few years ago you'd be hard pressed to see more that about ten 71s for sale at a time on Gunbroker, usually more like 5 to 8 at most. Boy have times changed. There are 37 original Winchester 71s listed on GB right now. Used to be hard to find an original long tang bolt peep deluxe, and then paying...

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I have kept a log of all my game, and the results are as follows (includes bow and muzzleloader): Range from 20 yards (archery deer) to 400 yards (bull elk); average of all kills is 130 yds (for all weapons), and 170 yds for rifle; 90% of all kills were under 200 yds. This is all western mountain hu...

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Found one, but I really remember a different butt. Maybe there are two?

http://www.levergunscommunity.org/viewt ... b1#p180022

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The guides guns are ~18-1/2". There was a member here who had a Browning 1886 with a modified (non-crescent) butt plate and a cut barrel and mag tube in the 16 to 18 inch range. There were pics of the rifle on the forum, but that was probably two to three years ago now. Maybe a search would tur...

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They seem to have forgot about the big bores on that data sheet link. Huh. The rest is interesting. Is the stuff available on the street yet?

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I am very fond of the 721/722 as well. My go-to bolt gun is a 721 in 264 that was my dads rifle for many years. It now wears a new barrel and McMillan stock, but it's still the same ole 721 underneath the new clothes. They are great shooters. We also share a 722 308 that is a super shooter. It will ...

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Youse guys need to get rid of those tinker toy 348's and get the only real rifle, a 45-70. :) :mrgreen: :) :mrgreen: :lol: I would venture a guess that most M71 owners also have a "real rifle" :wink: I have three in that persuasion and would like more....many more. Come to think of it, I ...

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Another vote for southwest, with all of my experience limited to only hunting / packing. We use a sliding scope cover to secure the rifle, which works equally well with leverguns by grabbing behind the hammer. We use unlined leather, leather with wool sock (for protection during packing), and full l...

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Cool pics and story. If those dates are correct, that's the oldest looking 20 year old I've ever seen. And he married his wife before she was born :shock: I couldn't resist...I'm a nick-pickin' engineer...it's in my blood. I do enjoy these stories though. I have the buffalo hunters encyclopedia (vol...

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