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71fan

I've been working for and with engineers.......One other thing is true: You can NOT get a YES or NO answer from them...ever! Try me...ask me a question 8) Some of these are new - some have been around a while. It's always good to laugh at yourself. I will say, though, that the bad wrap comes from e...

71fan

As we all know, the leveraction is faster than a bolt gun for repeat shots in the right hands. Not the BLR. Too long of a lever throw. I didn't know that...can the lever be operated in prone position without canting the rifle? Is it any different/better with a short action vs long action or magnum?

71fan

Don't hold your breath waiting for any synthetic furniture on the BLR. Browning's not really pushing it for the serious Scout crowd & I doubt you'll see any synthetic furniture on the things. It's possible, but unlikely. I have the takedown in .308 with a Burris waiting to go on it here, and in...

71fan

Based upon a lengthy personal correspondence regarding Scout rifles with Col. Cooper, he'd describe it as "Scout-like, but not a Scout." The length discrepancy and the wood, believe me, would be enough. He was a lovable but precise and stubborn son-of-a-gun! :) So it would be a "Pseu...

71fan

Kirk, you must be breathing that clean Canadian air too deeply. I'm not missing any images that I'm aware of. By gum, now you got me wondering if I'm dreaming!:shock: In your post where you mention getting a Schofield, there is a box with a message from photobucket saying it has been deleted. If yo...

71fan

Here is my outfit, although I rarely carry two rifles at once :wink: Levergun Leatherworks slings, butt cuff and 10-cartridge wallet (fits 303 Brit up to 45-70 Ruger belt and two-position holster (I always carry cross-draw) Freedom Arms 6-shot sliders (I usually carry one on the belt and one in my p...

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I have been contemplating the new BLR lightweight takedowns. For a few reasons I have delayed a purchase - I am waiting to see if a composite stock version comes out, and I am waiting for answers regarding the viability of a two-barrel set straight from Browning. That aside, this rifle is very close...

71fan

The Marlin 1881 had a 28" barrel standard, and was offered in 30 and 32" tubes, which if ordered were always heavy (vs standard) weight barrels. I have a 40-60 that originally had a heavy 30" inch barrel and would have weighed over 12 pounds. Someone in history saw fit to trim some fa...

71fan

Lefever Nitro Specials can be had at a decent price as well - $500 or so. Mine was $350 about 4 years ago and I assume it's gone up a bit. I have another $100 into it getting the chokes modified and a pachmeyer installed and it's a sweet shooter. 80 years old, beautiful case colors, AMERICAN MADE, a...

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What is the hardness of pure tin? Is it comparable to lead? I am a metal neophyte / ignoramous, so forgive me if the following sounds ridiculous.... Could a guy buy some 3/8" OD copper pipe/tubing, run it through some sort of die to put an acceptable ogive on it, and fill it with tin? Maybe dro...

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Andrew wrote:I don't get the AR platform from the cost angle. I don't need a gun that's THAT effective/accurate. Great guns, just not for me.

I'm with you, but I'd bet there are a bunch of AR guys saying the same about leverguns.

To each his own, which is what make the shooting sports so great.

71fan

sobenk wrote:
apparently pescado isn't a popular Mexican fare in San Diego
yeah, they never heard of fish tacos in San Diego

staple food.

71fan

And we're hunting and shooting buddies. And we have the same birthday, go figure. You could say he sort of copied my name, with my blessing of course

71fan

Is anyone else invited? :wink: There are some excellent places downtown in the Gaslamp and right on the bay, as well as on Coronado. But the vehicle definitely causes a bit of a problem. You could park in Mission Valley or various other parking areas along the trolley line and take the trolley into ...

71fan

That is in fact a 1996 date. My limited 44 mag was 1997...I assume you're speaking of a 44 or 45, 24" checkered 1894?

71fan

I wonder if Skinner couldn't whip something up for you. Just a thought. It's about time he strayed from Marlins and started playing with Winchesters anyway. His receiver sight would need to be shortened to clear the extractor and a radius cut in the bottom, then you're in business. Heck, if he didn'...

71fan

I know all about it since I live in the county & have hunted it but with the modified Pref Point system when I put in for points I can't get drawn as a second choice.With rain populations of quail,chukar,cottontails & jacks explode,in 05 small game populations were huge.I only have to drive...

71fan

For you guys down in San Diego, there are many many deer there. Out in the area of Julian, Ramona, and then a little further North over towards Jacumba you can hardly turn around without seeing a deer. I believe parts of that area are walk-in tags too -- or at least they used to be. Huh. Well I don...

71fan

t.r. Nice bucks. Any two bucks in one year is a feat in Cali. It sounds like you were dialed into a nice setup. I hope to be so lucky someday. I'm one deer for 8 years in Cali :cry: But that's OK, I'm still getting them in other states just fine. There have been sizeable Mule deer taken from the eas...

71fan

Have you tried a fine ivory or red bead yet? The ivory certainly helps in low light. If you lose the bead, you still have a perfectly adequate post. I've never used a red bead. I have a few but I haven't figured out which rifle to mount one on yet. I don't know if they'll be too good in low light. N...

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Several of the pics on the Wild West page show "perforated" hoods: http://www.wildwestguns.com/CoPilot_And_Guide_Rifles/copilot_and_guide_rifles.html Adn I found this in Midway but you need to buy the ramp to make it work: http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=37...

71fan

I've hunted with a fiber optic sight on my muzzleloader for many years and have never had a problem. We always put the rifles in a sock when packing in or going long distances, otherwise it goes in the scabbard as usual. I made a buckskin wrap reinforced with plactic (a film canister) for my receive...

71fan

More rain 8) I put a Pachmeyer pad on one of my 71s too, and I've comtemplated trying a firesight. The pad makes range sessions remarkably more enjoyable. I can put 60 rounds through it at the bench, and not really feel it. I was flinchy (and hurting) after 20 rounds before the pad. http://www.hunt1...

71fan

Not too many...yet...

243 Win
264 Win Mag
348 Win
44 mag/sp
45 LC
454 Casull

These six keep my plenty busy with what little time I have. I need/want to add 30-30, 303Brit, 38-55, 45-70, 33 wcf, and 40-65 wcf, but may have to wait for retirement - 30 years from now

71fan

She's a beauty. Is this your first 33? I am hopelessly addicted to 1886s and 71s, and have certainly noticed the trend. It's good if you already own a few, but bad if your trying to catch up. The deals online are long gone. I think we'll start seeing a lot more reconditioned 86s in the coming years,...

71fan

There are a few leverguns available in 38-55. To be a good deal, they will be used and shooter grade. New in box Winchester 1894s and Marlin Cowboys will be north of $700 probably. Watch the online auctions regularly to get a feel for what's available.

71fan

It's not for the 264, but these links will give you some comparison choices. if you don't fine an actual manual laod, you can do some math and exptrapolation and get pretty close with these numbers. 25-06: http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=284750 270: http://www.reloadammo.com/270...

71fan

I have three of them, and they're just getting started.

Very funny, especially the last one.

71fan

If it's the checkered 24" limited, it's worth a bit of dough - about $600 assuming it's in nice condition. I love mine and wouldn't change it for the world. OTOH, I already have 16" Winny Trapper, and wouldn't change THAT for the world. Both are 44s. I would say (A) look for a cheaper vers...

71fan

VERY nice Steve. Now, how can I get in the que

Good luck huntin' varmints this weekend, I wish I was joining you. Be safe!!

71fan

Here's the Navajo silversmith reference, FYI. These are fantastic knives: http://www.yellowhorseltd.com/david%20yellowhorse.htm I do have a membership to several private properties throughout Calif for hunting and fishing, so I do have access to being able to walk the property, often with just a day...

71fan

Welcome to the fire... I don't suppose you come from an esteemed line of talented Navajo silversmiths?? I have several DY knives and love them. Good luck in your endeavors. Like others have said, you will find all the information you need right here, and we have members scattered all over SoCal from...

71fan

I cover the target (POA) with a bead and bisect it with a post. The bead is relatively lacking in precision compared to the post because it is more difficult for the eye to consistently place it in relation to the target than it is for the eye to place the post. Sometimes a 6 o'clock hold is approp...

71fan

71 Fan, Nice rifle! :D I am not 100% on this as I am going out of my head but the 40-70 is a 2.4 case so thats all you would have to do is run a 40-82 or a 45-90 case in a 40-70 sizing die. Expensive for the three barrel set? You bet as that 40-70 barrel is going to have to be made from scratch or ...

71fan

cowboykell wrote:You don't need a 40-70 die. I reload and shoot regular 40-82 in my 40-70 Marlin 1895.

That is great news!

71fan

Thanks everyone for the info. That's what I needed. So can 40-82 ammo / brass be used in a 40-70 rifle? A friend and I are contemplating doing a three barrel set with the rifle in each of the original chamberings mentioned in the letter. It is one I posted about recently that had been a 40-70, and 5...

71fan

I have a Winchester 1886 that originally lettered as a 40-70 but was rebarreled to 33 wcf. I can't find any info on the 40-70 wcf cartridge.

Does anyone know the dimensions and original loading of this cartridge.

Does anyone know why it came about when the 40-65 and 40-82 were already around?

TIA

71fan

86er wrote:I don't know squat about blackpowder and messing around to get the bullets to stabilize - but I learned a lot and had a great time reading this thread. Thanks

+1 This is a GREAT thread for future BP loaders/shootersl like myself. It is bookmarked and printed.

Thanks!!

71fan

At least no money changed hands. Good luck in your search for the 410.

I know of a forum member that has a few...but I don't know if he'd sell. Maybe post a WTB on the classified board and see what happens.

71fan

Tom Richardson wrote:71 FAN

In the photo of gents seated around the table you have Jim Williamson named a Tom Williamson.
Was that peckerwood using my first name again?
I have to watch that boy every minuet.

Oops...sorry. It is fixed. The "peckerwood" has been properly identified

71fan

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f39/Cowboytutt/SoCalLevergunnerReunion08030.jpg Clockwise from front left: Jim Williamson (Shootist) Handirifle Dan (Sobenk's guest) Rylan, 71fan, and Aiden Charles (guest of Old Savage and SoCal deer hunter extrordinaire) Jreed's two boys, and of course you can te...

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Gun Smith wrote: I seem to remember my 71 had the peep nut in the bolt (above the firing pin) from the factory, even without the sight itself. You might get lucky and find it.

I've heard that from several folks in the past.

71fan

JReed wrote:jjames
Where in the count are you? I am up here at pendleton and I bring my own guns and amm

count = county
amm = ammo
double

I too would like to know where in the county you are. I am in San Carlos and Kearny Mesa.

71fan

I have the $10.00 Radocy takedown guide that you can get online. It has schematics as well as instructions regarding takedown. You can order it and have it within a couple of days, download it, or PM me for other "options."
http://www.takedownguides.com/Long_Guns.htm

71fan

Some more pictures, with some names to the faces... Tutt rear right, Sobenk rear left, Handi front center, Sobenk's guest close right, JReeds' backside http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/IMG_0472_2_.JPG Sobenk and my brother shooting smallbore silhouette http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/IM...

71fan

That price is just right. That rifle is just right.

Mine was $1650 (OTD) with $450 worth of MVA sights, which puts it right where yours is.

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71fan

Yes...it was a treat meeting everyone finally. This was a long time in coming and I hope it is an annual event. Thanks to everyone who made it happen. I had fun shooting as well, though I didn't meet many folks as I had limited time and was directed by the Range people to the silouette area where ev...

71fan

What a great time!! The boys and I enjoyed it very much and I definitely want to keep up with the lever action silhouette. Thank you Jonathan for everything. I'm still unpacking and cleaning. I should have a picture or two to post tomorrow when things settle down at home. P.S. Look who's above my he...

71fan

Did someone say 303 Brit

I guess I'd better throw mine in the "TO GO" pile.

It is VERY difficult deciding what is going and what is being left behind. I wish I could bring all my levers, and sixguns, and single shots...

I'm still dialed in for 3-ish on Saturday with my boys.

71fan

This is definitely a carbine that got modified, having originally been the confirguration that Winjester showed in the picture. If an 1895 has a barrel band it was born a carbine with top wood and a carbine butt. It is quite common for the top wood to be gone on these, and it is actually harder to f...

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BLR Takedown - What would Jeff Cooper say?

What is the 40-70 wcf, and more importantly, WHY?

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