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Nate Kiowa Jones

Ok, So, you can ramp the chamber mouth some. But no more than the fillet inside the 45lc case. If you take anymore that that the brass won't be supported. However, the ramp may not be the problem. The original Winchester 92's were designed to work with bottleneck ammo in the 1.5" to 1.6" O...

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The thing to keep in mind is these modern straight wall pistol caliber ammo leverguns (all, not just the 92’s) are a lot like semi-auto handguns. There’s just some ammo they aren’t going to work well with. All leveraction, pump action and semi-auto guns (long guns or handguns) are ammo length and bu...

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I was told, Rossi makes and sell more 357's than all the other calibers combined. BUT, I've had a hankering to build another 41mag. I recently built this one for a customer. I think this might be the all-around cartridge for the 92. Sort of fills the gap like the 38-40. https://i.ibb.co/MgXSzPT/IMG-...

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Hi Bill, Yep, that's kinda excessive. On the new guns 1/4" or so would be normal. Griff's for instance are much closer probably because he used them for CAS and they tend to wear in some with use. Same with the origins. I have one that was made in 1893, but it had feeding problems from the get-...

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I have a Gamo pellet gun that I know I have more trigger time on it than I do all the other guns here.

Scott,
you get that PM ?

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I saved this article about peep sights written back in the late 40’s by the famous Col. Townsend Whelen. Notice the aperture rear/aperture front groups. Why choose a peep sight for Rifles? Col.Townsend Whelen All military battle rifles and many "Dangerous Game Guns" have been fitted with p...

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Could be that. Hard to say without pictures of the hammer positions.

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I have had the same problem with every handgun I own. I discovered I can mitigate the problem by grabbing as much trigger as I can reach. A light, tip of the finger pull pushes the group to the left. That's the easiest fix if it works. The most common issue with a righthanded shooter is low left. N...

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Steve, I always welcome your responses and glad that Rossi still makes the '92 in 454 Casull. Hopefully the quality control and tolerances are better than my 2003 rifle. The 454 Casull in a small levergun that can hold 9 rounds, is really exceptional! It's 9 rounds of 45-70 with a 300 grain bullet....

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Rossi still catalogs the 92 in 454. LSI imports there LEVTAC-92 in 454.

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I just finished this one. It is now a 41 mag. But, he didn't like the cheek weld so I sent it out for the adjustable add-on. There's another 3/4" under there, too.

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Seve, Can you comment on how the muzzle end of the barrel was altered on these rifles? Michael Well, it would mostly be a SWAG but they did set the mag tube back deeper into the receiver to comp for the shorter acp round. So, the barrel band had to move back as well. The guessing part is because th...

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I had one of these guns here for repair. I have some pictures, but I need to re-size. Do you have a picture of the action inside? If it was converted to 4acp the 44-40 barrel won't work. You would also need the internal parts too........................................ Regarding what was entailed t...

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I had one of these guns here for repair. I have some pictures, but I need to re-size. Do you have a picture of the action inside? If it was converted to 4acp the 44-40 barrel won't work. You would also need the internal parts too. About the 45LC markings. That is not 45long colt. That 45LC down ther...

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I install the one-piece firing pins for my customer upon request. BUT, I always caution folks, when cleaning the gun just remove the lever to get the bolt out. This allows the bolt to easily come out the rear. This allows cleaning of the bore from the breech. DO NOT remove the trigger plate/lower ta...

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Of the two above choices, which action is stronger? I've read the 1894 doesn't lock up as well on the right side of the firearm due to the way the cut out is made . I also read somewhere yesterday the steel big boy is closer to marlin 336 in action strength. I ask this because one of these two rifl...

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................................................................ People have been telling me that the 9 em em is more efficient now with the new techo-advanced bullets . That may be though I personally doubt it. Drop a couple empty 9's into an empty .45 Colt case and tell me again how they work jus...

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.45colt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:08 pm Just stay on top of that Limb You Old Buzzard...... .

Got a 10 toe wrap on it. If the wind don't pick up should be OK

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Thanks for all the kind words, guys. I'm still here, just getting older and dealing with the health issues that come with it. The older I get the slower I get but hey, it is what it is.

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Jim and I have corresponded for years I think dating back to the 90's maybe. But it's only been in the last few years where we were close enough to have a sit down. It wasn't until we moved in 2013 from the coast out here to the hill country that we were close enough to put it together. Even then it...

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Sergio,
Because you have the main part of the firing pin it would be an easy fix to drill the end and silver solder in a new tip.

This would need to be done on a lathe.

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I'm pretty sure that bushing in the bolt face was added. To me it appears to protrude slightly. That would be a slick way to correct headspace and it makes sense. The old 73 tends to shoot loose with modern ammo. Also, you might look in the cleaning rod trapdoor in the buttstock. That firing pin may...

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Probably a good time to add; Never lower the hammer from the safety cock or half cock position. Always go to full cock then lower it. Lowering from the safety cock or half cock position usually leaves the cylinder bolt in the up position resting on the cylinder but not in the cylinder notch. This is...

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Steels warps with heat... usually in the heat treat process. But, levers are not a hardened part, and have been known to bend. I agree with the above, looks bent between the trigger guard and lever loop. It's just bent. As many of you know, I sell and install the big loop levers. So, because Rossi ...

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Using a round ball you can get some wobble. Here's how I like to slug a bore. I like to use a slug of soft lead that is at least 1 1/2 times long than the bore dia that's being slugged. This extra length assures that the slug doesn't wobble or try to turn in the bore as it's hammered through. This c...

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Scott Tschirhart wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:16 pm That Schofield looks like just the ticket! I'm probably going with a SAA clone but I could be tempted.

Let me temp you back.

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Scott Tschirhart wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:29 am I hadn’t thought about how the labor shortstop figured into this...........................................

That and the housing boom in the Austin area brought on by all those companies relocating here.

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I was taught to frame that in terms of "that's how much buying power the dollar lost in that time frame" . ........................................... Inflation is what all that "free money" from d.c. does. ....................... That's why you can still buy a new Colt SAA with...

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Scott,
one of the factors around here is everyone is busy. I've been trying to find a stone mason to rock a new pergola since before the ice storm. I've contacted about 10 all said sure be right there. Only two actually came out but I never heard back from them.

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I've always felt the 92 in 357m was the best all around most versatile. With full power 357m it's right there with a 30-30. Then with the 38 spec CAS loading cheap and easy to shoot. But, I may be changing my mind some. I'm currently working on a stainless 20" Rossi that started life as a 44mag...

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That gun is made by Rossi for LAGACY SPORTS INT. You might consider removing the aperture and just use the base as a ghost ring. I say that because t's a bit too far from your eye to be a fast acquiring peep sight. But, should do well for a fast ghost ring. I'm sure that sight is a Williams ACE IN T...

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@ Ray: yeah in today's shooting with a Walker for casual fun and playing Old West, it's not a big deal if the lever falls and there are definitely quick fixes. If I owned and shot one, I've thought about the idea of using a rubber band to hold it up. Now, let's go back to the mid 1800s where a guy ...

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From what I understand, the loading lever on the Walker falls during recoil and that was supposedly rectified with the Dragoon series. Although people have said they those loading levers also drop under recoil. Too bad Colt didn't come up with a better holder. I've had an 1860 Army in the past and ...

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why does the conversion retain the ram rod? it doesn't look to be lined up with the loading gate. I don't know of any complete conversion walks. The Kirst conversion is just the cylinder and recoil plate to replace the CB cylinder. I'm betting folks that go the conversion route remove the rammer be...

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For those who are Texas State Rifle Association members there will be a article about the Colt Walker comeing out soon written by a friend of mine, retired Texas Ranger Joey Gordon. I don't know if he will use them but I sent him pictures of some of my reproduction showing the progression from the P...

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I pray he gets over this. Not a good time to be in the hospital.

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I don't do it when doing SAA action work. but, I have seen where some folks use a #10 lock washer under the spring rather than use leather. I would use a dab of 222 purple loctite so the spring doesn't back out.

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Steve, Mic added a premium recoil pad and merc tube to mine, so its a little heavier and is not so painful to shoot. That steel buttplate on your converted 454 makes me want to pull out my 36 DD magnum gun bra LOL. :D -Tutt Yep, even with the heavier 24" octagon it still wasn't all that pleasa...

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Thanks for the replies. I'm probably more concerned with the wear mark on the inside of the receiver. As you look at the carrier/ lifter, the side of the load gate shows heavy wear. Is anyone able to post a photo of that area of their receiver, for comparison? Thanks That could be the problem. The ...

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As Andy found, the early 454's had some problems. But, now 20 yesrs later they are doing pretty good, at least the actions are. The wood takes a pounding but some bedding will take care of that. One of the things I don't care for is the 454's only come as light weight round barrel carbines. So I too...

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Some folks think the dovetails are cut with a taper. Wider on the right side, narrower on the left. But, that is just not the case. They are cut straight across. Then when the new sight is driven in the dove tail widens on the right side as the sight base swages down leaving the left side of the dov...

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FWI
That gun is made by Rossi, imported by LSI

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It's the paper money and crazy times. Values of cars and guns generally stay the same but todays paper money de-values.
Back in the late 1800's it was said a cowboy could by a new Colt SAA for a $20 gold piece.
Pretty much the same today. For a $20 gold piece you can still buy a new Colt SAA

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Definately a reblue. To me the main tell is the purple barrel from over temped bluing salts.

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I would add, this bushing/plate is the primary reason not to dry-fire SAA's. Unlike the earlier penciled firing pins that are hard mounted in the hammer the later contoured firing pins free float and when dry fired they tend to loosen even more, sometimes enough to knock the recoil bushing/plate loo...

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Here’s one to look at, ponder. It is not possible to get that case out of the gun with the recoil shield attached to the primer/cartridge case. Can't happen. The little bugger is staked in place with a tool that comes in through the barrel or through the threaded hole where the barrel goes. Colt do...

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Blaine wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:40 pm My own Tiger is apt to go crazy if he sees a Howdah with double barrel flinters....

Yep, my tiger did too.

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