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Hopefully your friend's Henry will be a bit more robust than KCSO's '66. I've been thinking about getting either a Henry or a '66 with the gun-metal frame. I'd want the .44 WCF and would load it to around 10,000 psi; the thin brass of the .44 should seal nicely even at that low pressure. My understa...

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Your gun would have been proofed to (and presumably designed for) CIP standards, about 16,000 psi max for operating pressures.

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I've seen .38 Spl's go down range. They were low speed (even for a .38) handloads. The cast bullets are kind of a gray, smeared arc. Really nice is shooting flat base, copper jacketed .38 bullets; I recall the sun was behind and to the side some, and one got an effect similar to a tracer.

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Mike Rintoul wrote: However, primers can add from 3 - 13 psi pressure variance. Mag primers usually add closer to the 13 psi over the standard with the same load.

I assume you meant to type 13 ksi instead of 13 psi, or maybe 13%. Accuracy to 13 psi on a 63,000 psi reading would be incredible.

KWK

That brought a smile to my face -- nice rifle, too.

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From what I've read, you can't safely gauge pressures with a chronograph. A while back, I assembled what data I'd seen into a web page. Basically, small changes in velocity can come with great increases in pressure.

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I find FF easier to use, overall. I keep a copy of IE up to date just for the annoying sites programmed only for IE. Opera is faster, but I find it a bit clumsy in some ways. Both FF and Opera better conform to industry standards; IE is its own standard.

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Ooooo, I may have to get one of those. I have a book covering the Burgess patent guns. I recall the author saying the Colt was not terribly reliable. Perhaps Uberti will make some needed changes. It's basically the 1881 Marlin scaled down to pistol length cartridges. Uberti is quite welcome to start...

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While living overseas, I switched to the electronic copies. For the most part I prefer the paper copies, but the electronic has its advantages. I keep a large "notebook" on my PC with quotes and extracts from various sources. With the electronic copies, it's a simple copy/paste; with paper...

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...said he thought two well-placed shots with his .270-caliber rifle had killed the buck Now, gentlemen, don't be too hard on the hunter. Reporters often use sloppy English. The hunter might instead have said he thought he had two well placed shots. Alternately, he might indeed have had two well pl...

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No, I do not think the errors will be consistent. I would hazard a guess that the gap will affect the slower powders more than the faster ones. Regardless, the program is simply not accurate enough to predict fps and--especially--pressure correctly; no software is. Powder lot variation alone prevent...

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Hmmm, my (older) copy estimates just under 1470 fps. It doesn't have a length stored for the Lyman bullet, so I used yours. I also forgot to ask what the capacity of your brass is; I used 45 gn. The program estimates pressures are high enough it can't be certain it is safe (although the 37 ksi compu...

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QL has its limitations, and you've just hit on three of them. It's list of bullets is not exhaustive; you'll have to supply the bullet length. Also, it doesn't care what primer you use; it models only an "average" primer, and there are effects on pressure due to primers (which, then, are n...

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A list of SAAMI and CIP specs is found here.

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stew71, the High-Wall is a rather strong action. On their factory site , Uberti offers the gun in .348 and .30-40; the former would really stress the action, with its big fat case. In both Europe and the US, the proof ratings for the .45-70 are barely above BP pressure levels, so this may be to what...

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A good friend of mine reported at dinner tonight that Q.S. was excellent and that he looked forward to acquiring it on DVD when it came out. I thought the last Casino Royale was about the best Bond film, although I do appreciate the early Connery films. As for the "stupid" title, it is one...

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That's amazing performance from the 336; I would have bet they couldn't do it. The .35 Rem is adequate for my needs and has the pedigree, but this could be tempting.

BlaineG wrote:and Savage is coming out with the 99 again

Please, tell me more!

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There's not much more case capacity to be gained in the .35 WCF. It has a very short neck as it is, and there's not much body taper. As for pressures, the SAAMI limit is 40,000 CUP for the Krag; and in Europe, the CIP limit is similar. The CIP also has a standard of 47,000 psi. Some of the early Kra...

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An excellent collection you have.

It's been many years since I visited Dunedin. NZ still gets my vote for prettiest country in the world.

KWK

Nice, but such a long action would to my eye look better with a longer barrel. I really like the appearance of lever guns with these short magazines. I have a picture of an original with a similar magazine and 28" or so barrel, in .50 -- lovely.

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Thanks for the link. I must keep an eye on that site. It would be fun to design and have made a receiver for a single shot rifle that now exists only in my mind's eye. This company's not there yet, but I'll watch.

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357 mag 35,000 327 fed 45,000 Not sure how much diff 10k psi matters? The European spec for the .357 is 44,000 psi, and Marlin very likely designs their gun for sale in that market. Further, the area over which the pressure is applied is much smaller in the .327, as compared to the .357. I'm not ke...

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I am much happier being a citizen than a subject. I don't understand. As far as I can tell, the queen is powerless. If she tried to exert authority, she'd be tossed out. The UK has effectively been ruled by parliament as long as the US has been around. There's no constitutional limits as in the US,...

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Thanks Tutt. I have Boddington's earlier book. I'm not surprised the change has been so little. Taylor was pretty much saying the same thing back before WW-II.

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Oh, what the heck, I'll nit-pick on one of the points, on the electric cars. I wouldn't be surprised if your summary is correct regarding the current state of the art, but American ingenuity is working on super-capacitors which would change the equation. If they could deliver a 75 mi range, most com...

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Geeze, a post from Grizz I feel no great need to argue with.

(Not that I agree with all the points, mind you.)

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Naysaying is one of the least profitable pasttimes in the world. Now, just who is the naysayer? I only suggested there may be better routes to energy independence. I've tried to point out that extracting oil shale is no trivial exercise, and we should consider if the same investment can provide a c...

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anybody can write anything in wikipedia, just like here. there's no more reason to take their word for it than there is to take mine or yours. True, but I checked that the numbers were reasonable. The stated electric production is less than 15% of the output. Given that they plan to heat cubic mile...

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The Shell process (cited in the article) is covered in the Wikipedia article on oil shale. They include numbers for the electrical input required. One can calculate that to meet current US petroleum consumption would require about 180 very large nuclear reactors, that or you burn a big chunk of the ...

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I believe it was William Davis who recommended keeping the loading density the same when seating a bullet deeper. Some numbers I ran through the QuickLoad simulator suggest this is conservative. The loading density is the charge weight divided by the net case capacity. Seating the bullet deeper mean...

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Peter, optimists claim the US has oil reserves sufficient for 200 years at the current consumption rates, if only we'd drill for it. That means we must more than triple our current output and then sustain that for 200 years. What do you think the odds are there's that much oil under US territory? Karl

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Japan has just about zip natural resources--some fish and trees and a little farmland for the most part--yet it's also one of the wealthier countries on the planet. Take away skilled labor and advanced machinery, and even the US is worth fairly little, for the ag industry is a fairly small portion o...

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Explain to me the need for drilling in ANWR, off the West and East Coasts and in the Gulf if oil companies already have sufficient places to drill at present. The Democrats are throwing up smoke to justify their attempts to grab oil company profits and then dole this out to politically favored caus...

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It's been an enjoyable series to read; thank you.

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I believe rimrock has it right. Search engines look at the top level page of all domains and follow the links on each page, in this way fanning out across an entire site. (Actually, they look at more than just the links when trying to find all pages on any site.) As words and phrases of interest are...

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It's pretty hard to believe someone who paints natural gas injection as part of a conspiracy. It's done to keep pushing the oil out, not to screw consumers. And where did he get his numbers for reserves on the north slope of Alaska? The reserves there are certainly nothing to sneeze at, but neither ...

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I plan to get one of the Uberti's this year, just to see what such guns are like. There was a used .44-40 on the wall of one shop many years ago, and I've long regretted not getting it. From what little I could gather off the internet, you do not want to shoot high pressure cartridges from these thi...

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I guess you think the hi velocity hollow points with all the extra heat go ahead and cook the meat for you so it is ready to eat. Hardly. I did say that bullet energy can (and will) be wasted in heating. Fractions of a degree F are all that's needed to waste all the kinetic energy of a bullet. You ...

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1. the faster the bullet the higher the pressure True. But once you've reached the pressure needed to destroy the tissue, any more is in part wasted as heat. 2. the larger the diameter the higher the pressure False. The velocity alone limits the maximum pressure. A bigger bullet simply develops the...

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Any bullet that does NOT exit destroys more tissue than if the bullet exits with significant velocity all other things being the same. Now how do you know that? Inside an animal, bullets can expend their energy in two ways. One is in ripping and mashing tissue. The other is in shoving tissue around...

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Jayhawker wrote:even if it is awkward as all get out to operate

Awkward in what way? I've never tried a 7600, just a shotgun or two.

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It's $8.60 / gal here in the UK, 2/3 of which is tax. People still drive their cars often and fast. You get used to it. When we move back to the US next month, it will seem downright cheap. It's amazing to see people in the US gripe about US oil companies. The US companies don't control even 1/3 the...

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If the problem is supply and demand why was there an oil well drilled on my mom's place in S.W. Fla 22 years ago that has never had the first barrel of oil pumped out of it? It's likely as simple as they didn't think they'd get enough oil out of it to make it worth their while. As they drill down, ...

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So anything you can't find documented truth about is abjectly false? You're the perfect government lackey. No, I'm saying only it's not proven. You're the perfect paranoid. Some folks say we have massive reserves in Alaska Some folks still say the earth is flat. Estimates I've read about are the No...

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yummy......

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Make up your mind, either you live in the U.K. or you live in the US. Figure it out. On business, Americans sometimes live overseas temporarily. to get the permits to drill locally, like every other country on earth is doing I've looked without success for documented proof of massive reserves withi...

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Thanks Wayne, I've never seen BP shot in one of the old style levers. I find interesting how big a puff of smoke comes out the action on firing (before the action is cycled). It appears a fair amount escapes before the case seals the chamber. Does this also happen when shooting BP in thin walled bra...

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The day it costs $200+ to fill a 19-gallon Honda, will be the day I start voting communist Now that will solve the problem! Let's see, under the Soviets, Russians had few cars and little gasoline... There will be civil and world war before $12.00 a gallon happens Due to taxes, it's over $9/gal here...

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I like it. Winchester should have offered it so.

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The dimensions from Dunlop's drawing match those that SAAMI puts out. SAAMI will sell you an older version of their standards; see their web site . Most of the rest of the world follows the standards of Europe's CIP, and they have their standards on their web site . I'm surprised Steve's Pages is st...

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