Paco Kelly's Leverguns.com

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Wife likes to shoot, but not the recoil. She got bit by a scope on a 308 gun of mine. She loves my Henry in 22 mag. But jeeze, I can reload 38s cheaper than those V-max bullets in that Henry. Recoil of a pistol doesn't bother her. But then again, the gun is not near her head

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Well I just threw together some 38s with the Winny 125gr JHP, CCI 500 primers and 5.9grs of the True Blue. These shot great. Very mild load. I'll just have to use the Laser Casts in my 357 loads. Thanks for the advice and listening to my problems.

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One other thing I forgot to mention. I use CCI 500 standard primers in the 38 loads and CCI 550 magnum primers in the 357 loads. Not sure if that would make a difference, but thought I'd mention it.

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I've never slugged the gun because it did so well with the other loads. The bullets are listed at .358 diameter. I do use Lee lube on them to prevent leading. Just something I do. I had a feeling it might have something to do with the hardness of them. I loaded 100 rounds but stopped after about 25 ...

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Hey all. I have a Rossi Puma Stainless gun I bought new last year. I load 158gr Laser cast lead bullets in 357 with 7.7grs of Ramshot's True Blue powder. These shoot great. I decided to make a light load for the wife in 38 Special. Same bullet, but 4.8grs of the same powder in the 38 case. This load...

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To me, the big question is, do you want to stick optics on it? If you do, go with the Henry. If not, go with the Puma. I have 2 Pumas. Great guns for the money. But I also have a Henry in 22 mag. I put a red dot on it for night time critter duty.

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That's a nice speech. Except for one thing. Just about every politician leaves out why they hate us. Ron Paul is the only one that I've heard that's told the truth. "They hate us because we're there". And we've been there for decades. Overthrowing their democratically elected leaders, cove...

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I wondered about that Lee Liquid Alox. I'll have to give that a try. In my 30-30, I was having the opposite trouble in my light loads with the Laser Cast. 10grs of Unique would lead the barrel but the leading was all the way through. The less powder I used, the better it got. I've now settled on 7.5...

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I have 2 Rossi's and use the Oregon Trail bullets with light loads. The 357 has just a few flakes of lead after 100 rounds. The 44 is a different story. First 6" of the barrel leads and the rest seems clean. The 357 is loaded to minimum specs and the 44 is loaded somewhere between minimum 44 ma...

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I finally dragged my wife out of the house to see where I was hitting. I was shooting over the bottles most of the time. Once I figured out where I was hitting, I became more consistent at hitting the bottles. Not great mind you, but better at it. I only used the 44 yesterday. The gun is not as accu...

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Thanks for the advice. I was just getting frustrated. I bench rested the guns and immediately went to trying to hit objects at 50 yards off hand for fun. Like I said, I'm used to scoped guns. Shooting the open sighted guns is a different challenge. I need to set a large target up at 50 yards to find...

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I know part of my problem is that I'm starting to jerk the trigger when the front sight is on the target. But it's hard to hold your breath and slowly squeeze that crappy trigger. The front sight moves around as I do this so I end up jerking it like a shotgun trigger. And my reloads might be suspect...

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Sorry, first off I'm in Kentucky. No ranges around me for a long way. I have about a 100 acre farm I shoot on. Development is reducing my range for the long guns. The rifles are Pumas, but the front sight is almost as large at the pop bottles at the distance I shoot at. It will cover a pop bottle at...

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I keep reading about guys that can hit pop cans at 100 yards but I have a hard time hitting 2 liter bottles at 50 yards. I've used scopes for years and really love shooting the 44 and 357 mag Pumas, but I have a hard time hitting them. I'm trying to set the sights up so the bottle is on top of the f...

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I get flecks of lead with the Lasercast at 7.2grs of Unique. I get leading at 10.5grs of Unique. I don't use gas checks. I think the problem is the bullets I'm using. They are a gas check design. I have the same problem in my 357 and 44 mag leverguns with Lasercast. But nowhere near as bad. That's w...

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I have that website bookmarked. Didn't list Trailboss. After Don McDowell"s comment, I may just stick to Unique. It just seems like it takes forever to get the powder fouling out compared to Ramshot's True Blue. I use that in my 357 and 44 mag leverguns.

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I've been using 7.2grs of Unique for my light 30-30 loads with the 170gr Laser Cast bullets and I'm getting low on powder. I was wondering about Trailboss as a replacement powder as that would fill the case up more. Would this make for a more accurate load? I'm getting around 4" groups at 50 ya...

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I'll admit I don't own a Marlin, but if you want to put optics on it, go with the Marlin. Otherwise, I love my Pumas in 357 and 44 mag.

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One more question then I'll quit on this subject. Where can I find load data for the IMR-4759 for the 30-30? 15.5grs is the lowest charge in my book. I'd like to see load data for lighter bullets also as I'm not sure if I'm going to stick to Laser Cast bullets. Jeeze, if I ever get the nerve up I'm ...

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Thanks. Next time I head to the big city, I'll look for some IMR-4759

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Bullets are sized at .310 according to the box and that's what the few that I measured came out as. My Lyman book shows SR-4759 but lists the minimum as 15.5grs of powder for 1613fps. Guess I'm barking up the wrong tree trying to push 'em a little faster. I don't cast and have no equipment to put ga...

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Thanks for the replies. I've bought cast bullets for the pistol calibers for years and decided to try it in the 30-30. That's why I bought some Unique to start out with. Does anyone have an idea what the "speed" limit is on these bullets without gas checks? Ballpark figure? 10grs of Unique...

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Leading is my main concern. These bullets seem to be hard. Even at 8grs of Unique, I got tiny flakes of lead. Same thing with the Laser Cast in my 357 and 44 levers. Flecks of lead. Not much. Not sure why as normally with other cast bullets I bought I'd get slivers if they leaded. I've always loaded...

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It's funny how the Lyman (Third Edition) book has no listing for 760 in the 170gr bullet, but lists it for the 173gr bullet. Even says the 28.4grs of powder at 1625fps is the potentially most accurate load of the powders listed. The book says "760- A rifle powder covering a broad range of appli...

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I'll still use Unique for the low velocity loads. Didn't have much luck at 8grs so I bumped it up to 10grs and got a little better accuracy. I'll know to get a softer bullet next time. Just wanted to know it I can reduce the 760 to an acceptable level for the cast bullets. The Sierra second edition ...

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The starting loads for all the powders in the Sierra book are at 1800fps. I had hoped that since the Lyman book had a smaller starting load for the other powders there might be one for the Win 760. 10grs of Unique is around 1500fps and is a pleasant load to shoot. I'm worried that 1800fps might be p...

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How low can I go using Winchester 760 powder? I decided to get into low power loads using Laser Cast 170gr bullets and 10grs of Unique in my 30-30 Win 94. Really a fun plinking load. I have several pounds of 760 laying around and wondered how much lower I could go in Win 760, but my Lyman cast book ...

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The Laser Cast bullets are sized at .310 and they are hard. I don't get much leading but it's there. Once I get through the powder when I clean, then I get small flakes of lead. Not much though. I also use Laser Cast bullets in my 357 and 44 mag Puma guns. Same type of leading, but the powder residu...

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Umm, take a look at this post from the stickies: http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewtopic.php?t=2449 I bought two off off Mr Young for both my Pumas.

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I've been using 10grs of Unique with the 170gr Laser Cast bullets in my Win 94. Seems like it takes forever to scrub the barrel out after a shooting session. Not the most accurate load but I wonder if it is because the Laser Cast are a gas check design and I don't use the checks. It's a fun load to ...

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Well, I have a Henry H001M 22 mag. Slick little gun. I did put a red dot on it for night time critter duty. You can see it here: http://www.pixagogo.com/9777704129 Click on a pic to make it bigger, click on original at the top to really blow it up. So far, after I've tried different ammo, it prefers...

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You can do it for under 20 cents a pop. Plus, go to 200gr bullets and it won't thump your shoulder so hard. I just got 500 of the 200gr round nose Oregon Trail Lasercast bullets for around 50 bucks plus shipping. They're sized at .431, but my Rossi likes a bullet a little oversize. If you go to Powd...

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I really can't suggest a load for a pistol, but CCI V-Max group the best out of my Henry levergun. A lot better. For general purpose use, the CCI 40gr TMJ Maxi-Mag is the other bullet I've settled on. Didn't have much luck with Winchester stuff. Cabela's has some cheap plinking ammo but was out the ...

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I'll stick to the stock sights for now on the 44 and the 357 I also have. Makes me think my reloads are better than what they are. Those sights are kinda blocky. Once I get used to them I'll start shooting offhand. Haven't done that in years also. I'm always leaning or laying on something when I use...

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I bought the gun used. It seems all the previous owner did was wipe the outside down when he was done. Inside was filthy. And yes, it took a lot of effort to get the copper fouling out. The plated bullets were loads I had on hand for the Smith 629. They shoot great in it. The gun might shoot one hol...

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A while back, I reported accuracy problems with my Puma. 8" groups or more with no consistancy. General consensus was my .429 plated bullets were too small. So I bought some 200gr RN Oregon Trail Laser Cast in .431 size. Loaded that with 11.2grs of True Blue with a CCI magnum primer. Target was...

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I was shocked when she said there was a possom eating the cat food. I rarely ever seen them in the daytime, much less when it's cold out. Shot a skunk last week at 5 AM. It was like 10 degrees out. I do need some more of those black stick on targets. I was kinda able to home in on them. Like I said,...

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Ok KirkD. You wanted the bad. here it is. Me: Been using a scope for years. Trying to learn to use open sights. Gun : '75 Winchester 94 in 30-30, Williams peep sight, not sighted in. Load: 10grs Unique under 170gr Laser Cast bullet. Weather: Balmy 32 degrees and slightly windy. Distance: about 45 ya...

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I've never slugged a barrel. Not sure if they have sinkers that large. I'm not sure how old the gun is. Guy I bought it off of estimated it at about 8 years old. The gun did have the safety in the bolt, which I replaced with the plug from Mr. Young. With some effort, I can shove the bullet into the ...

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The one thing that I noticed, is when I cleaned the gun, there was absolutely no lead or copper fouling of any type. If I drove the bullet too fast, wouldn't some of the copper plating come off?

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The load data is for a Nosler 240gr JHP. Starting load is 11.9grs for 1188fps out of a 8.275 barrel with a 1-20" twist. The disk I use for my Lee Auto Disk just happens to throw 12grs. I stay low for cast bullets. Bought these bullets at a gun show years ago but I can't remember who made them. ...

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I have some 44 mag, 240gr plated bullets I bought years ago. I donâ€™t even know who made them. These bullets shoot great out of my S&W 629. Out of my Puma is a different story. Iâ€™m talking 8â€

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I might play with that screw now that I know it can be done. I don't hunt and I can take the stock off to check it fairly easily. I was worried the gun might go bang when I didn't want it to. That short, lower spring seems to be the main culprit and backing that screw out would release some of the t...

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Guess I'll have to live with it. I'm more of a parts replacer type of guy anyway. There are no smiths in my area and I don't want the hassle of shipping the gun. Only gave a hundred bucks for it back in '99. Didn't shoot it much as I have a bum shoulder. Then I found out about the reduced loads in 3...

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The Unique loads I use are very light. Around 9 to 10 grains with a 170gr Laser Cast bullet. Last batch was with 8.8grs, but accuracy wasn't that hot. Some said that was a tad light so I have another batch loaded with 10.1grs, but the weather has been rough and I haven't tried them yet. But it takes...

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Try Ramshot's True Blue. I haven't used it in in 9mm but I have in the 38, 357, and 44 mag. I use Unique in my reduced 30-30 loads and True Blue is a much cleaner powder in my pistol shells. I haven't checked, but it used to be a little cheaper than the other brands. My pistol caliber guns are a lot...

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Backing off the screw â€œtroublesâ€

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I want to try and do a trigger job on my '94. First off, it's a '75 model in the 424XXXX serial range. It has the two, flat type spring setup. I saw a post a while back and it said to narrow the main spring. It made no reference to the fact the gun has two springs. The main spring is wide at the rea...

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Mine did that. Stain would come off on your hands. Took the wood off and gave it a light sanding and shot it with 3 light coats of Min-Wax Satin Polyurethane. Actually looked better after I got done.

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Yep, the DVD is great. If you own one of these guns, it's well worth it. If nothing else, you can strip the gun apart just to clean it. I used it to put the ejector spring in. That alone was worth the price of the DVD as that little spring made opening and closing the rifle a lot easier. The 92s are...

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