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Looks like a bit wint just under the skin in front of the adams apple too...
Wonder if the neck was the point of entry then the billet zippered the chest/shoulder open.
Seems logical if you imagine him being Prone when hit. I really can't imagine any other way to get that kind of graze.
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Old Savage wrote:Had a Lab that had a wound that looked similar from a fight with an ostrich. He licked it better.
Yeah... THAT's what it reminded me of. I had a bitch who ran through a barbed wire fence and opened up her chest like that. We stitched her up on the kitchen table. She was pretty good about it all thing considered.
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Having watched Ken Burns' "The War", plus a couple first hand, his wound doesn't look like much. I'm sure it hurt, but as bullet wounds go, doesn't look so bad. On the other hand, with antibiotics...
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jeepnik wrote:Having watched Ken Burns' "The War", plus a couple first hand, his wound doesn't look like much. I'm sure it hurt, but as bullet wounds go, doesn't look so bad. On the other hand, with antibiotics...
Well, the troop's a little pain-shocky, but his pupils are OK and honestly doesn't seem to be a "casualty". A Corpsman could stitch him up and he'll be fine. Not even much blood loss there and unless he's a Lefty he can still shoulder a rifle...
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Yeah Griff, maybe shrapnel, looks like a cut. My brother got a wound much like that going through a sliding glass door. We won't elaborate the circumstances of that event, the amount of booze, the trail of blood going across the street to the hospital, the explanation to Mom...
Griff wrote:I'm gonna go out on a limb an' say that looks like shrapnel, rather than a bullet.
Could have been a 5.45x39 round though. I know the Soviets pretty much converted to it but I don't know if Georgia stuck with it or went back to the 7.62x39...
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Griff wrote:I'm gonna go out on a limb an' say that looks like shrapnel, rather than a bullet.
I suppose that an airburst could account for the downward angle on the shoulder, but not the neck wound.
Imagine this guy prone. He runs out of ammo, rises up to insert a new mag, and catches a round coming in from 1 o'clock. It penetrates the neck then begins to tumble on exit, catching the chest ans split-seaming it like a knife before exiting his uniform.
A bit of frag wouldn't have left such a perfect in-line entry-exit-entry wound.
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Sometimes you are someplace which even if you duck it isn't enough. If a medic keeps it moist, he should make it back to a hospital to get it fixed with a minimum of scarring. Do the troops still carry a liter of Ringer's Lactate I.V. solution with them as we did back in the 80's? If so, that would be good for washing the wound and keeping it moist. Curr Ahee.
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piller wrote:Sometimes you are someplace which even if you duck it isn't enough. If a medic keeps it moist, he should make it back to a hospital to get it fixed with a minimum of scarring. Do the troops still carry a liter of Ringer's Lactate I.V. solution with them as we did back in the 80's? If so, that would be good for washing the wound and keeping it moist. Curr Ahee.
Ours do, but I don’t think they have “Combat Lifesavers” in the squads like we do.
The 5.45 x 39 round is smaller in diameter than our 5.56 x 45 (.223) and has a hollow section up front of the steel plug in the back that make it off balance once it hits something causing it to tumble. A lot more accurate than a 7.63 AK round and twice as deadly.
OI, I agree with the assessment about the prone and entry @ 1 o'clock if it were a bullet. Just that it looks SO much like a shrapnel wound I got in VN. Very linear slicing and peeling/rolling back of the skin. Admittedly, I don't know enough about the rounds used to know what wounds would look like.
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Griff wrote:OI, I agree with the assessment about the prone and entry @ 1 o'clock if it were a bullet. Just that it looks SO much like a shrapnel wound I got in VN. Very linear slicing and peeling/rolling back of the skin. Admittedly, I don't know enough about the rounds used to know what wounds would look like.
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BTW, on the assessment of "not for young eyes", I agree with Jim this is for each parent to decide. My son (Ysabel Kid's Kid) is probably the youngest member of the forum at 10. I think this picture reinforces the damage a bullet can do without being overly explicit. Good teaching tool...