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POLITICS: I am NOT a Libertarian...

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I am a libertarian. The "Libertarian" Party went quite rapidly from "The Party of Principle" to "The Principle of (Political) Partys" - i.e. sould its Soul to try to be Popular.

As we say on the 'net.... Meh.

I would enjoin Levergunners of all Party Stripe to read the following, and if you agree, follow the link and join with we who believe more in the Constitution than any other secular thing.

There are some things Dr. Paul & I disagree on, but they are fewer than with any of the "Partys" we currently have to put up with.

Constitution First, Last and Always.
Americans inherit from their ancestors a glorious tradition of freedom and resistance to oppression. Our country has long been admired by the rest of the world for her great example of liberty and prosperity – a light shining in the darkness of tyranny.
But many Americans today are frustrated. The political choices they are offered give them no real choice at all. For all their talk of “change,” neither major political party as presently constituted challenges the status quo in any serious way. Neither treats the Constitution with anything but contempt. Neither offers any kind of change in monetary policy. Neither wants to make the reductions in government that our crushing debt burden demands. Neither talks about bringing American troops home not just from Iraq but from around the world. Our country is going bankrupt, and none of these sensible proposals are even on the table.

This destructive bipartisan consensus has suffocated American political life for many years. Anyone who tries to ask fundamental questions instead of cosmetic ones is ridiculed or ignored.

That is why the Campaign for Liberty was established: to highlight the neglected but common-sense principles we champion and reinsert them into the American political conversation.

The U.S. Constitution is at the heart of what the Campaign for Liberty stands for, since the very least we can demand of our government is fidelity to its own governing document. Claims that our Constitution was meant to be a “living document” that judges may interpret as they please are fraudulent, incompatible with republican government, and without foundation in the constitutional text or the thinking of the Framers. Thomas Jefferson spoke of binding our rulers down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution, and we are proud to follow in his distinguished lineage.

With our Founding Fathers, we also believe in a noninterventionist foreign policy. Inspired by the old Robert Taft wing of the Republican Party, we are convinced that the American people cannot remain free and prosperous with 700 military bases around the world, troops in 130 countries, and a steady diet of war propaganda. Our military overstretch is undermining our national defense and bankrupting our country.

We believe that the free market, reviled by people who do not understand it, is the most just and humane economic system and the greatest engine of prosperity the world has ever known.

We believe with Ludwig von Mises, Henry Hazlitt, and F.A. Hayek that central banking distorts economic decisionmaking and misleads entrepreneurs into making unsound investments. Hayek won the Nobel Prize for showing how central banks’ interference with interest rates sets the stage for economic downturns. And the central bank’s ability to create money out of thin air transfers wealth from the most vulnerable to those with political pull, since it is the latter who receive the new money before the price increases it brings in its wake have yet occurred. For economic and moral reasons, therefore, we join the great twentieth-century economists in opposing the Federal Reserve System, which has reduced the value of the dollar by 95 percent since it began in 1913.

We oppose the dehumanizing assumption that all issues that divide us must be settled at the federal level and forced on every American community, whether by activist judges, a power-hungry executive, or a meddling Congress. We believe in the humane alternative of local self-government, as called for in our Constitution.

We oppose the transfer of American sovereignty to supranational organizations in which the American people possess no elected representatives. Such compromises of our country’s independence run counter to the principles of the American Revolution, which was fought on behalf of self-government and local control. Most of these organizations have a terrible track record even on their own terms: how much poverty have the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund actually alleviated, for example? The peoples of the world can interact with each other just fine in the absence of bureaucratic intermediaries that undermine their sovereignty.

We believe that freedom is an indivisible whole, and that it includes not only economic liberty but civil liberties and privacy rights as well, all of which are historic rights that our civilization has cherished from time immemorial.

Our stances on other issues can be deduced from these general principles.

Our country is ailing. That is the bad news. The good news is that the remedy is so simple and attractive: a return to the principles our Founders taught us. Respect for the Constitution, the rule of law, individual liberty, sound money, and a noninterventionist foreign policy constitute the foundation of the Campaign for Liberty.

Will you join us?
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/mission/

Dr. Paul's plan for the Republican Natl. Convention:
http://www.youtube.com/campaignforliberty

9min ABC "end (beginning) of campaign" interview... http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/media?id=6202886
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Thanks, signed up the night of the announcement, we got work to do now, and work to do in the next four years, unless everyones good with the current candidates....no?

A bump for guns & a bump for Liberty!

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You might enjoy the "Friesian Quiz" (not really a quiz, just an article on Libertarianism).

http://www.friesian.com/quiz.htm

and this article on McCain, Paul, and the "mainstream" dilemma

http://www.nolanchart.com/article2586.html
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I really dislike the "Mainstream Media" and the staggeringly mind-numbing left slant they put on the news. They are doing a great job of keeping Ron Paul out of the loop, and that loopy Osnoba in the loop. I am seriously considering Ron Paul for my vote. I am not pleased with my two main choices, but I may choose McCain just to keep Osnoba out of the Washington D.C. loop. At the moment I really don't know. I am joining to help Ron Paul so that in 4 years we can have a candidate who we can trust our liberties to.
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The 4 yr recurring dilemma has returned. I know in my heart that a 3rd party is needed, desperately. Yet, the practicality of this and any other election is: if we vote a 3rd party candidate, it gives the prize to the worst of the worst. No matter what the argument, that is precisely what will happen.

I am a Constitutional Libertarian.
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Dirty Dan wrote:The 4 yr recurring dilemma has returned. I know in my heart that a 3rd party is needed, desperately. Yet, the practicality of this and any other election is: if we vote a 3rd party candidate, it gives the prize to the worst of the worst. No matter what the argument, that is precisely what will happen.

I am a Constitutional Libertarian.
The way I see it, since this is the first time in my life I'll be voting for a candidate that doesn't have any chance of winning, it forces the question "Is that all I'm gonna do, vote?" I've never missed an election, and voted party lines, shirking my responsibility and easing my conscience. This time I am, as others may say, "wasting" my vote. And it doesn't sit well with me, therefore forced action, getting involved and spreading the word. Some may talk of "sending a message" but what message exactly?, just makes the sly politicians more wise to what folks want to hear and they'll change their message accordingly, as some of us have seen with the Republican donation request form. With the Campaign for Liberty there is quite an effort to check, re-check, and check again for voting records and actions, a true as can be litmus test for any potential candidate going for any position.

The "lesser of two evils" have been winning for years, and look where we're at.

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20th century politicians that i admired; t rosevelt, fdr, ike ,jfk, nixon, cause he hated regan who ruined this country, and pat bucannon. i vote american first, as opposed to rep or dem. so i dont know what that makes me politically.
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forgot harry truman. my bad.
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