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joachim slim · Post by **joachim slim** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:52 pm

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kirkwood · Post by **kirkwood** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:09 pm

Honestly, do you give to every organization that comes to you looking for a handout? Why would you expect Cabela's to do what you don't do yourself? Do you think it would be fair if I publically criticized you for not giving to the charities that I support?

joachim slim · Post by **joachim slim** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:16 pm

i try to give at least $2 to everyone organization that ask me. i dont eat girl scout cookies but i donate $3 to the troop here. i also dont buy school fundraisers but i donate $5 to each group (band, football, track, xcountry,...etc.) so yea go ahead and ask which ones i dont give to that ask.

P.S. i give more to Breast Cancer research. my wife, my mother, my grandmother and several relatives are survivors. my mother in law, grandmother, relatives and a few friends didnt survive.

brucew44guns · Post by **brucew44guns** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:18 pm

I have a small lube oil business in a small town. Everyone but the local dog catcher has called me and put the bite on me to contribute to their worthy cause. I'm sure many are worthy, but I do pay rent on my building, and buy 4.00 dollar diesel for my truck, and monstrous insurance bills. Some of these folks get downright rude when I don't toss in 20, 50, 100, or more, it could equal 500 a month real easy if I said yes everytime someone calls. It gets old after awhile.

Modoc ED · Post by **Modoc ED** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:29 pm

kirkwood wrote:Honestly, do you give to every organization that comes to you looking for a handout? Why would you expect Cabela's to do what you don't do yourself? Do you think it would be fair if I publically criticized you for not giving to the charities that I support?

Right on!!! But then again, everyone thinks their cause is more deserving than others.

Cabela's is a good outfit. Ashame to see it put down over such a petty thing.

budliteguy · Post by **budliteguy** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:37 pm

Time's are tough and are going to get tougher, but a big outfit like Cabela's could afford to put up something, even if the charity didn't pertain to hunting or fishing, But I think that Breast Cancer research is a very worth cause, I lost my grandmother to that in 1980 and my mother-in-law to that in 1996, It's worth the effort. since cabela's would not give you a 20.00 donation, send me your address and I'll give you one.

joachim slim · Post by **joachim slim** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:54 pm

i didnt consider Breast Cancer petty

jazman · Post by **jazman** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:00 pm

budliteguy wrote:Time's are tough and are going to get tougher, but a big outfit like Cabela's could afford to put up something, even if the charity didn't pertain to hunting or fishing, But I think that Breast Cancer research is a very worth cause, I lost my grandmother to that in 1980 and my mother-in-law to that in 1996, It's worth the effort. since cabela's would not give you a 20.00 donation, send me your address and I'll give you one.

Plus 1. They could have come up with something. Count me in for $20.00 too, PM me to tell me where to send it.
Jim

joachim slim · Post by **joachim slim** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:09 pm

thanks for the offers of the donations. my intent wasnt to solicite money from the mebers. please donate to your local Breast Cancer organization. another need that is greatly appreciated are new or gently used toys for the play areas at the cancer treatment centers. my wife and i take toys to the center about every 6 months.

Andrew · Post by **Andrew** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:33 pm

budliteguy wrote:Time's are tough and are going to get tougher, but a big outfit like Cabela's could afford to put up something.....

I am seeing it from both sides. They may think that if they donate to one charity all the others will find out and be on them double time. Cabelas attracts a lot of customers, therefore, attracts a lot of attention from people seeking support. And on the other side, I am pretty sure they could shell out a good basket full of goodies and not have it hit the fiscal radar. Not to mention that what little they donate could be tax deductible.

I am siding with "they could have done something". In my opinion, doing nothing wasn't wrong, but not the best choice.

Modoc ED · Post by **Modoc ED** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:07 am

joachim slim wrote:i didnt consider Breast Cancer petty

I don't consider breast cancer petty either.

You either didn't read my post correctly or you're twisting my words.

I was referencing your COMPLAINT that Cabela's didn't donate anything as being petty. They can't contribute to every Tom, Dick, and Harry for every cause no matter how noble the requestor believes his cause is.

Post by **Hobie** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:43 am

I know that I get at least one phone call most every day asking me to donate to something or another. I've tried being polite, explaining that I can't donate today or that my donation budget for the year is shot. It never ceases to surprise me how many are insistent to the point of being rude (and never mind those that just jump straight to rude). It is counter-productive at best and can just out and out harm your organization.

From the other side, I was, until recently, raising money for a foundation. My youngest daughter has done this professionally. One thing is for certain that every community conscious business BUDGETS for charitable giving and most prioritize those issues/causes that directly affect their employees (who often hit up the boss for contributions). Businesses might "do a lot of business" or "make a lot of money" but they also spend a lot of money and have expenses such as payroll which must be paid.

Simply put, no individual or business can afford to contribute to every single person/group/charity that solicits a donation every time.

In the case of many big chains like WalMart and Cabelas, each store has a charitable giving budget based in part on profits from the previous year. Exceptions, just as with any other business decision, likely rest on the store manager. His job likely rides on his ability to produce profit more than on his ability to meet every community need. Alienating him is not likely to produce for you in the future. Showing understanding by asking about his budgeting cycle and when might be the most opportune time to ask for a donation (rather than just when you need one) often produces great results.

Good luck to you in your fundraising efforts. My mother is a 15 year breast cancer survivor having had the whole gamut of treatment. She worked for many years as a volunteer for the local Cancer Society in fundraising and gave several thousand dollars in support of this cause. She also demonstrated her support by participating in the walks.

505stevec · Post by **505stevec** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:45 am

How many other organizations did you solicit from that you didnt post about. Why is it that people tend to put down their own at the drop of a hat? Go some where else and keep plugging away but dont take rejection personally. Else you will one day say "If they dont care why should I?!!! Not every one patted the Lord on the back or gave to his cause ESPECIALLY the religeous of the day. Cabellas does have the right to send their LIMITED donations to whom they please. Beleive when I say limited. Every pot of gold has a bottom and they know there are other organiztions that give to your cause generously.

JohnnyReb · Post by **JohnnyReb** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:23 am

I am a business owner so I can understand about Cabelas.
Usually big companies have approved lists for donations; many times set their donation budget and even specific recipients in the prior year for the current year. Managers hands were probably tied.

Companies also do this to keep from getting scammed (not that your case is a scam). I am with Hobie, I get calls constantly for donations and I don't have time to check out every solictor. I have a list of approved charities and their proper contacts.....if you are not on the list...(unless I know you personally) then no donation.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:56 am

I don't know about 'big corporations' but as a small business owner I had to adopt a 'zero donations' policy with the exception that once a year our staff will vote for ONE cause to support. Even then, since the specialist down the road collects AIRPLANES for a hobby, and makes a seven-figure income, people assume anyone with 'MD' behind their name surely has wads of money and is a scrooge if they don't fork over. In my case, the insurances have cut our fees 20% and our profit margin was 12%, so I've not had a paycheck since before Thanksgiving. THAT doesn't make me very charitable to any good cause out of necessity; when I'm borrowing money to pay for groceries, I'm not going to borrow money to hand to any charity. If it were legal to charge a $10 surcharge for anyone who votes Democrat (socialized health care) I could be making good money!

oldmax · Post by **oldmax** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:48 pm

Sorry I can't agree in bashing Cabela's over the non donation..

Liberals ( socialists ) want to take your money and give it to someone else.
Of course for a good cause....

I see no difference in you wanting to take Cabela's profits and give it to
your prefered charity... Being it a good cause is not the isue.

Charity is not strong arming someone to give...

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