Interesting Picture, England, WW2

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QCI Winchesters wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Women ... rifles.jpg

Looks like Model 70's?
M1 Carbines is what I believe the original caption said...
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Hobie wrote:
QCI Winchesters wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Women ... rifles.jpg

Looks like Model 70's?
M1 Carbines is what I believe the original caption said...
Would M1 carbines be in boxes like that? I would think they would be in plain boxes.
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They are 94 carbines. You can read the end flap.---------6
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Lend Lease for Homeguard? Would make sense. A class of rifles/ammo that wouldn't directly impact the War effort but would be quite useful for fending off raiding parties & capturing downed Pilots...
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I seem to recall reading about lend/lease models 94s that were marked property of the US that were issue to the Brits.
I captured some still shots from a UK made documentary about WWII a few years ago, and it shows an officer training these Brit gals how to operate a lend/lease Savage model 99. Pretty interesting stuff.

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At one time I had a Canadian proofed Model 94 SRC.
I wish I'd kept it but was offered a pile of money for it sever years ago.

I early WW II we were sending many different types of firearms to England as they ere very short
on small arms.

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I have tried without success, to find out what happened to all the guns that came over from the USA. I remember seeing photos in a magazine of crates of all kinds of civilian firearms sent over by American citizens in 1940.
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From what I've read, most of them were dumped in the ocean.

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2ndovc wrote:From what I've read, most of them were dumped in the ocean.

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I recall an auction fairly recently of a Winchester collectors estate sale. One of the items he had was a crate of 10 Winchester 94 SRC's unissued and still with all their original tags and bindings. They were in pristine condition looking like they had just left the Winchester factory the day before. The story had it that that the rifles were part of the lend lease program and were sent to Britain in 1941. They were never used and sent back to the U.S. where they sat in a warehouse until they were rediscovered in the 1960's. If I remember right, that crate of 94's sold for north of $200,000.
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Not only were firearms donated by US citizens during those dark days of need , such items as spotting scopes, telescopes and binoculars were provided too for use in air defense..
I have read every effort was made to return lend lease items to their original donors whose contact details remained available....I recently read where a family received a pair of binoculars back after a 60 odd year absence when discovered.....
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When my Uncles arrived in England in the early war with the Loyal Edmonton Regiment, the Loyal Eddies, they marched in view of the German spotters in France. My favorite Uncle told me they didn't have enough rifles for live fire and marching in formation. They carried broom handles! To quote, the silly buggers didn't have enough of them either!

The war in Europe was won by North American industrial power, merchant mariners and convoy sailors in the north Atlantic, and horrible carnage on the eastern front.

We issued Winchester 94s to our version of the homeguard on the Pacific coast as many know. We had our own Lee Enfield production but every rifle was needed in Europe.
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Canuck Bob wrote:When my Uncles arrived in England in the early war with the Loyal Edmonton Regiment, the Loyal Eddies, they marched in view of the German spotters in France. My favorite Uncle told me they didn't have enough rifles for live fire and marching in formation. They carried broom handles! To quote, the silly buggers didn't have enough of them either!

The war in Europe was won by North American industrial power, merchant mariners and convoy sailors in the north Atlantic, and horrible carnage on the eastern front.

We issued Winchester 94s to our version of the homeguard on the Pacific coast as many know. We had our own Lee Enfield production but every rifle was needed in Europe.
The army on our West Coast had brand new Lee-Enfields when lots of our guys overseas had SMLE's. They also wore US M1 helmets while front line soldiers were wearing the old WW1 style Mk. II helmets.
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kevind6 wrote:I recall an auction fairly recently of a Winchester collectors estate sale. One of the items he had was a crate of 10 Winchester 94 SRC's unissued and still with all their original tags and bindings. They were in pristine condition looking like they had just left the Winchester factory the day before. The story had it that that the rifles were part of the lend lease program and were sent to Britain in 1941. They were never used and sent back to the U.S. where they sat in a warehouse until they were rediscovered in the 1960's. If I remember right, that crate of 94's sold for north of $200,000.
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game keeper wrote:I have tried without success, to find out what happened to all the guns that came over from the USA. I remember seeing photos in a magazine of crates of all kinds of civilian firearms sent over by American citizens in 1940.
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Griff wrote:
kevind6 wrote:I recall an auction fairly recently of a Winchester collectors estate sale. One of the items he had was a crate of 10 Winchester 94 SRC's unissued and still with all their original tags and bindings. They were in pristine condition looking like they had just left the Winchester factory the day before. The story had it that that the rifles were part of the lend lease program and were sent to Britain in 1941. They were never used and sent back to the U.S. where they sat in a warehouse until they were rediscovered in the 1960's. If I remember right, that crate of 94's sold for north of $200,000.
James D Julia Auction: March 12th & 13th, 2012. Sold for 218,500.00
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Interesting if those are supposed to be L-L from WW2, they are pre-1936 carbines. (???)
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