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Years ago, many years ago, when I worked in a boat yard on the Eastern Shore of Md, when the bosses would go home for the weekend, we would cut up a few shells and shoot them into the sunken wrecks that were exposed at low tide. Typically, these were large wooden yachts with serious planking on the hull sides. These shells would make nice neat 3/4" holes going it, and then HOLY SMOKES! would they cause a fuss on the inside of the boat. We called them grenade loads for all the damage they did.
Again, in my youth, we would cut one up when duck hunting on bluebird days and fire one off at ducks resting on the water many hundreds of yards away. They would make a huge splash and never fail to get every bird involved up. I wouldn't do that now with steel shot, but back then......
I don't see any reason NOT to recommend it! It looks devastating and simple to me. I thought my buddies and I had tried just about every hair brained thing you could think of to do with a 12 ga shell when I was a kid, but clearly one slipped by us!
Cut Shells really turn a .410 into a mean bugger....
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As reckless as I am, I would think double twice about this. You are shooting a projectile that fits in the chamber and is bigger than the bore, even the area just ahead of the chamber, not to mention the choke, that most all shotguns have. Its like pushing a 44 caliber bullet through a .357 barrel----not cool.
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I always heard them called Hasty Slugs. I can't remember ever not knowing about them. One Uncle used them in WWII and told the rest of the family about it when he got home. He always said to make sure you weren't using the shells with a fiber wad, and that it didn't work with paper shells.
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I don't quite understand this, even after watching the video.
Instead of the whole length of the shell staying behind and getting ejected after firing, the cut part actually travels along down and out the barrel along with the pellets? So, if the pellets and cut outer shell go downrange and hit the target, the pellets clump together to make the pattern that was shown, with the resulting banana peel like cover appearance?
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My grandpa used to do that.
That said ,I would not even think of doing such a stupid thing myself.
The pressures must be off the chart with some loads.
It goes to show you that the safety margin built into modern guns is great or
those guys who "plug cut" loads would all be using white canes or pushing up daisy's.
Chuck 100 yd wrote:My grandpa used to do that.
That said ,I would not even think of doing such a stupid thing myself.
The pressures must be off the chart with some loads.
It goes to show you that the safety margin built into modern guns is great or
those guys who "plug cut" loads would all be using white canes or pushing up daisy's.
I'm thinking that those light field loads are about as stout as one should be thinking about. You can still get a hundred of those for around twenty bucks at WallyWorld....
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BlaineG , Friend, if you look at some load data for shotgun, you will see that the chamber pressures on those light field and trap loads with their fast burning powders are often higher than the heavy field loads.
Too many people believe that if it has low brass or the words lite or light on them that chamber pressures are low. NOT SO ! Forcing a load of shot wrapped with paper or plastic that is 1/8" or so larger than bore size through the forcing cone ,bore and then the choke has to increase pressures to scary levels.
I will not do it. Thanks anyway.
Chuck 100 yd wrote:BlaineG , Friend, if you look at some load data for shotgun, you will see that the chamber pressures on those light field and trap loads with their fast burning powders are often higher than the heavy field loads.
Too many people believe that if it has low brass or the words lite or light on them that chamber pressures are low. NOT SO ! Forcing a load of shot wrapped with paper or plastic that is 1/8" or so larger than bore size through the forcing cone ,bore and then the choke has to increase pressures to scary levels.
I will not do it. Thanks anyway.
But, but...I saw it on the internet (I hear ya, Man....really)
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Chuck 100 yd wrote:My grandpa used to do that.
That said ,I would not even think of doing such a stupid thing myself.
The pressures must be off the chart with some loads.
It goes to show you that the safety margin built into modern guns is great or
those guys who "plug cut" loads would all be using white canes or pushing up daisy's.
I'm thinking that those light field loads are about as stout as one should be thinking about. You can still get a hundred of those for around twenty bucks at WallyWorld....
Bingo. I don't think the suggestion is to try this with a 3" magnum turkey load!
When I was a youngster growing up in WV, they were usually used as poachers friends. It was illegal to have any shot larger than 4 and having buckshot or slugs were forbidden also. No gun season where I was located. You could use a cut shell to illegally take one of the rare deer. I saw one deer that was killed with one.entrance and exit hole just like a slug DRT. If game warden checked you before you only had legal shells.
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Been trying to discern where this possible over pressure comes from. For some reason I don't see it. The small tab of plastic left after cutting is apparently easier to overcome than the crimp on the hull mouth.
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When you cut around the case just above the brass and then shove that whole assembly out through the bore you are pushing a slug that is about 1/8 " larger in diameter than the bore through the forcing cone into the bore and out through the choke. It has to compress to do that. Kinda like pushing a .308 bullet through a .277 bore.
High pressures will be the result.