357 loadings???

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:21 pm

Ok guys, I am going to attempt a change to my English firearms licence and put in for a 357 carbine.

What I need to know is who uses which powder for top end loadings?

I have some green dot and herco which could do small game cast loads and I have some H4227 that I think can do top end loads but I was cosidering some 2400 or H110.

Imputs please

N.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:28 pm

I've been using Blue Dot for high end loads in .357, and .44 Mag.....IMO, H110 is touchy, and gives you the blowtorch effect. Blue Dot burns almost exactly like the 2400, and I can get as much performance as I care to out of it...I've never been one for max loads, anyway.

Post by **Hobie** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:31 pm

I use Lil'Gun and H110/W296 for top end loads of 158+ gr. bullets. My rifle load is with the 180 gr. Remington SJHP or Hornady XTP-FP. For .38 Special level loads it is 6 gr. Unique under the 158 gr. SWC. One can also load a 200-205 gr. FP over 2.5 gr. Bullseye (very quiet).

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:32 pm

BlaineG wrote:I've been using Blue Dot for high end loads in .357, and .44 Mag.....IMO, H110 is touchy, and gives you the blowtorch effect. Blue Dot burns almost exactly like the 2400, and I can get as much performance as I care to out of it...I've never been one for max loads, anyway.

Thanks Blain.
Are you talking revolver or carbine ?

N

jdad · Post by **jdad** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:34 pm

VV N110 is probably easier and cheaper for you to acquire than us. It gives several hundred fps more than any other powder and is extremely clean burning, with low flash and blast.

harry · Post by **harry** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:37 pm

jdad wrote:VV N110 is probably easier and cheaper for you to acquire than us. It gives several hundred fps more than any other powder and is extremely clean burning, with low flash and blast.

+1

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:38 pm

Hmmmm I fear this is going to be a s clear as mud

It's going to end up like pinning the tail on the donkey job

Nath.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:40 pm

Nath...both in .44 Mag, handgun in .357......I'm sure there are better.....I don't tinker. If it works well, I won't mess with a sure thing.

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:41 pm

BlaineG wrote:Nath...both in .44 Mag, handgun in .357......I'm sure there are better.....I don't tinker. If it works well, I won't mess with a sure thing.

Cheers bro

N.

harry · Post by **harry** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:42 pm

125 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon H4227 .357" 1.590" 18.0 1955 34,400 CUP 20.0 2122 42,000 CUP
125 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon H110 .357" 1.590" 21.0 2205 38,400 CUP 22.0 2276 41,400 CUP
125 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon HS-6 .357" 1.590" 9.8 1538 34,400 CUP 10.9 1724 42,100 CUP
125 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon Universal .357" 1.590" 7.1 1423 34,900 CUP 7.6 1526 39,600 CUP
125 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon HP-38 .357" 1.590" 7.3 1454 33,800 CUP 8.5 1622 42,700 CUP
125 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon Titegroup .357" 1.590" 6.8 1461 36,500 CUP 7.5 1586 41,200 CUP
125 GR. HDY XTP IMR IMR 4227 .357" 1.590" 18.0 1955 34,400 CUP 20.0 2122 42,000 CUP
125 GR. HDY XTP IMR SR 4756 .357" 1.590" 6.0 1593 18,600 PSI 7.8 1537 30,600 PSI
125 GR. HDY XTP IMR SR 7625 .357" 1.590" 5.8 1258 19,000 PSI 7.5 1481 33,800 PSI
125 GR. HDY XTP IMR PB .357" 1.590" 4.5 1123 19,600 PSI 5.9 1333 32,900 PSI
125 GR. HDY XTP IMR 700-X .357" 1.590" 4.5 1173 18,300 PSI 6.4 1479 30,400 PSI
140 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon H4227 .357" 1.590" 16.2 1798 33,100 CUP 18.0 1930 42,600 CUP
140 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon H110 .357" 1.590" 17.1 1836 28,400 CUP 19.0 1997 40,900 CUP
140 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon HS-6 .357" 1.590" 9.5 1497 35,800 CUP 10.5 1613 43,000 CUP
140 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon Universal .357" 1.590" 6.5 1282 34,800 CUP 7.0 1356 40,200 CUP
140 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon HP-38 .357" 1.590" 6.5 1324 30,800 CUP 7.7 1447 41,900 CUP
140 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon Titegroup .357" 1.590" 6.3 1325 35,600 CUP 7.0 1425 41,900 CUP
150 GR. NOS JFP Hodgdon H4227 .357" 1.590" 15.0 1663 33,100 CUP 16.5 1775 36,700 CUP
150 GR. NOS JFP Hodgdon H110 .357" 1.590" 16.0 1766 23,600 CUP 17.0 1807 28,900 CUP
150 GR. NOS JFP Hodgdon HS-6 .357" 1.590" 9.0 1449 31,500 CUP 9.7 1503 39,900 CUP
150 GR. NOS JFP Hodgdon Universal .357" 1.590" 6.2 1096 32,800 CUP 6.7 1323 39,900 CUP
150 GR. NOS JFP Hodgdon HP-38 .357" 1.590" 6.5 1261 35,800 CUP 7.0 1356 39,700 CUP
150 GR. NOS JFP Hodgdon Titegroup .357" 1.590" 6.1 1291 33,800 CUP 6.8 1429 40,900 CUP
158 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon H4227 .357" 1.580" 14.5 1578 34,600 CUP 16.0 1668 42,600 CUP
158 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon H110 .357" 1.580" 15.0 1619 28,600 CUP 16.7 1757 40,700 CUP
158 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon HS-6 .357" 1.580" 8.0 1181 28,000 CUP 9.5 1427 41,900 CUP
158 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon Universal .357" 1.580" 5.8 1059 32,100 CUP 6.3 1147 39,300 CUP
158 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon HP-38 .357" 1.580" 6.2 1095 33,700 CUP 6.9 1214 40,000 CUP
158 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon Titegroup .357" 1.580" 5.4 1035 32,600 CUP 6.1 1184 41,900 CUP
158 GR. HDY XTP IMR IMR 4227 .357" 1.580" 14.5 1578 34,600 CUP 16.0 1668 42,600 CUP
158 GR. HDY XTP IMR SR 4756 .357" 1.580" 5.0 976 17,500 PSI 6.5 1216 29,900 PSI
158 GR. HDY XTP IMR SR 7625 .357" 1.580" 4.3 892 16,700 PSI 5.8 1145 29,600 PSI
158 GR. HDY XTP IMR PB .357" 1.580" 3.7 827 18,800 PSI 4.9 1064 31,700 PSI
158 GR. HDY XTP IMR 700-X .357" 1.580" 4.5 1019 21,900 PSI 5.7 1219 31,200 PSI
158 GR. LSWC Hodgdon H4227 .358" 1.610" 10.5 1288 15,400 CUP 11.5 1382 17,800 CUP
158 GR. LSWC Hodgdon HS-6 .358" 1.610" 6.0 1083 12,900 CUP 7.0 1224 15,500 CUP
158 GR. LSWC Hodgdon Universal .358" 1.610" 5.5 1214 23,300 CUP 6.7 1380 34,600 CUP
158 GR. LSWC Hodgdon HP-38 .358" 1.610" 3.5 901 8,400 CUP 4.5 1059 16,200 CUP
158 GR. LSWC Hodgdon Titegroup .358" 1.610" 4.5 1157 19,300 CUP 5.0 1220 24,900 CUP
170 GR. SIE JHC Hodgdon H4227 .357" 1.580" 13.0 1442 32,300 CUP 14.5 1535 41,200 CUP
170 GR. SIE JHC Hodgdon H110 .357" 1.580" 14.0 1537 25,900 CUP 15.5 1662 40,800 CUP
170 GR. SIE JHC Hodgdon HS-6 .357" 1.580" 8.0 1243 30,900 CUP 9.2 1424 42,900 CUP
170 GR. SIE JHC Hodgdon Titegroup .357" 1.580" 5.4 1177 34,700 CUP 6.0 1270 41,800 CUP
180 GR. NOS PART Hodgdon H4227 .357" 1.575" 12.7 1185 36,900 CUP 13.7 1325 40,900 CUP
180 GR. NOS PART Hodgdon H110 .357" 1.575" 13.0 1324 36,800 CUP 13.5 1381 39,100 CUP

jdad · Post by **jdad** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:51 pm

Hornady Reloading Manual

158gr xtp, 13.4gr N110, 1600fps. Max Load

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:03 pm

harry wrote:125 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon H4227 .357" 1.590" 18.0 1955 34,400 CUP 20.0 2122 42,000 CUP
125 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon H110 .357" 1.590" 21.0 2205 38,400 CUP 22.0 2276 41,400 CUP
125 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon HS-6 .357" 1.590" 9.8 1538 34,400 CUP 10.9 1724 42,100 CUP
125 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon Universal .357" 1.590" 7.1 1423 34,900 CUP 7.6 1526 39,600 CUP
125 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon HP-38 .357" 1.590" 7.3 1454 33,800 CUP 8.5 1622 42,700 CUP
125 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon Titegroup .357" 1.590" 6.8 1461 36,500 CUP 7.5 1586 41,200 CUP
125 GR. HDY XTP IMR IMR 4227 .357" 1.590" 18.0 1955 34,400 CUP 20.0 2122 42,000 CUP
125 GR. HDY XTP IMR SR 4756 .357" 1.590" 6.0 1593 18,600 PSI 7.8 1537 30,600 PSI
125 GR. HDY XTP IMR SR 7625 .357" 1.590" 5.8 1258 19,000 PSI 7.5 1481 33,800 PSI
125 GR. HDY XTP IMR PB .357" 1.590" 4.5 1123 19,600 PSI 5.9 1333 32,900 PSI
125 GR. HDY XTP IMR 700-X .357" 1.590" 4.5 1173 18,300 PSI 6.4 1479 30,400 PSI
140 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon H4227 .357" 1.590" 16.2 1798 33,100 CUP 18.0 1930 42,600 CUP
140 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon H110 .357" 1.590" 17.1 1836 28,400 CUP 19.0 1997 40,900 CUP
140 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon HS-6 .357" 1.590" 9.5 1497 35,800 CUP 10.5 1613 43,000 CUP
140 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon Universal .357" 1.590" 6.5 1282 34,800 CUP 7.0 1356 40,200 CUP
140 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon HP-38 .357" 1.590" 6.5 1324 30,800 CUP 7.7 1447 41,900 CUP
140 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon Titegroup .357" 1.590" 6.3 1325 35,600 CUP 7.0 1425 41,900 CUP
150 GR. NOS JFP Hodgdon H4227 .357" 1.590" 15.0 1663 33,100 CUP 16.5 1775 36,700 CUP
150 GR. NOS JFP Hodgdon H110 .357" 1.590" 16.0 1766 23,600 CUP 17.0 1807 28,900 CUP
150 GR. NOS JFP Hodgdon HS-6 .357" 1.590" 9.0 1449 31,500 CUP 9.7 1503 39,900 CUP
150 GR. NOS JFP Hodgdon Universal .357" 1.590" 6.2 1096 32,800 CUP 6.7 1323 39,900 CUP
150 GR. NOS JFP Hodgdon HP-38 .357" 1.590" 6.5 1261 35,800 CUP 7.0 1356 39,700 CUP
150 GR. NOS JFP Hodgdon Titegroup .357" 1.590" 6.1 1291 33,800 CUP 6.8 1429 40,900 CUP
158 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon H4227 .357" 1.580" 14.5 1578 34,600 CUP 16.0 1668 42,600 CUP
158 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon H110 .357" 1.580" 15.0 1619 28,600 CUP 16.7 1757 40,700 CUP
158 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon HS-6 .357" 1.580" 8.0 1181 28,000 CUP 9.5 1427 41,900 CUP
158 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon Universal .357" 1.580" 5.8 1059 32,100 CUP 6.3 1147 39,300 CUP
158 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon HP-38 .357" 1.580" 6.2 1095 33,700 CUP 6.9 1214 40,000 CUP
158 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon Titegroup .357" 1.580" 5.4 1035 32,600 CUP 6.1 1184 41,900 CUP
158 GR. HDY XTP IMR IMR 4227 .357" 1.580" 14.5 1578 34,600 CUP 16.0 1668 42,600 CUP
158 GR. HDY XTP IMR SR 4756 .357" 1.580" 5.0 976 17,500 PSI 6.5 1216 29,900 PSI
158 GR. HDY XTP IMR SR 7625 .357" 1.580" 4.3 892 16,700 PSI 5.8 1145 29,600 PSI
158 GR. HDY XTP IMR PB .357" 1.580" 3.7 827 18,800 PSI 4.9 1064 31,700 PSI
158 GR. HDY XTP IMR 700-X .357" 1.580" 4.5 1019 21,900 PSI 5.7 1219 31,200 PSI
158 GR. LSWC Hodgdon H4227 .358" 1.610" 10.5 1288 15,400 CUP 11.5 1382 17,800 CUP
158 GR. LSWC Hodgdon HS-6 .358" 1.610" 6.0 1083 12,900 CUP 7.0 1224 15,500 CUP
158 GR. LSWC Hodgdon Universal .358" 1.610" 5.5 1214 23,300 CUP 6.7 1380 34,600 CUP
158 GR. LSWC Hodgdon HP-38 .358" 1.610" 3.5 901 8,400 CUP 4.5 1059 16,200 CUP
158 GR. LSWC Hodgdon Titegroup .358" 1.610" 4.5 1157 19,300 CUP 5.0 1220 24,900 CUP
170 GR. SIE JHC Hodgdon H4227 .357" 1.580" 13.0 1442 32,300 CUP 14.5 1535 41,200 CUP
170 GR. SIE JHC Hodgdon H110 .357" 1.580" 14.0 1537 25,900 CUP 15.5 1662 40,800 CUP
170 GR. SIE JHC Hodgdon HS-6 .357" 1.580" 8.0 1243 30,900 CUP 9.2 1424 42,900 CUP
170 GR. SIE JHC Hodgdon Titegroup .357" 1.580" 5.4 1177 34,700 CUP 6.0 1270 41,800 CUP
180 GR. NOS PART Hodgdon H4227 .357" 1.575" 12.7 1185 36,900 CUP 13.7 1325 40,900 CUP
180 GR. NOS PART Hodgdon H110 .357" 1.575" 13.0 1324 36,800 CUP 13.5 1381 39,100 CUP

H110 looks to give big onions across the range!
Use to like it in my Hornets!

N

stretch · Post by **stretch** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:08 pm

158 gr. JHP over 14.0 gr. of 2400, standard SP primer.

This is in a S&W 686 revolver with an 8 3/8" barrel.

Very accurate, but not a top power load. Haven't shot
it in a rifle yet.

-Stretch

Post by **Chuck 100 yd** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:57 pm

158 gr. over 14.0 2400 is the one I settled on. Shoots great in all my .357`s.
2400 is a very versatile powder. I use it in everything from the .38 special to
the .38-55 . I am staying with 4755 in the .45-70.

Borregos · Post by **Borregos** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:50 pm

W296 works well for me for top end loads thiugh sometimes I use 2400

COSteve · Post by **COSteve** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:10 pm

My top end 357mag levergun loads for 158grn Zero JSP bullets as well as 180grn jacketed and 200grn hardcast bullets include liberal doses of H110 powder, SP Magnum primers, and new Starline cases.

ollogger · Post by **ollogger** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:08 pm

Im really likeing LIL GUN with 170 gr. Sierra or 158 Hornady
Unique with cast bullets

ollogger

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:22 am

I have stacks of small rifle primers.
Would they be hot enough for H110?

N.

Ji in Hawaii · Post by **Ji in Hawaii** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:48 am

Amen to Lil'Gun.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:22 am

Nath wrote:Ok guys, I am going to attempt a change to my English firearms licence and put in for a 357 carbine.

What I need to know is who uses which powder for top end loadings?

I have some green dot and herco which could do small game cast loads and I have some H4227 that I think can do top end loads but I was cosidering some 2400 or H110.

Imputs please

N.

Good luck Nath, when I had a .357 Rossi the Hampshire police would only allow me to use it on a range..

that was the only reason I sold it as taking it hunting would have been risky, if you know what I mean!

El Chivo · Post by **El Chivo** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:15 am

I like IMR 4227 best and have tried Blue Dot, 2400, Trail Boss, and SR 4759. The latter is kind of a favorite but won't give you a top end load.

I don't like really fast powders.

COSteve · Post by **COSteve** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:53 pm

Nath wrote:I have stacks of small rifle primers.
Would they be hot enough for H110?

N.

I use them almost exclusively after talking with the Tech Support lady at CCI a few years back during the primer shortages. When I told her I wanted to talk tech stuff and not complain about availability she was happy to talk. She said she'd worked at CCI for 37 years in the tech support dept and it became evident quickly that she really knew her stuff. I mentioned that I'd found that I got higher, more consistent velocities and lower SDs and ESs when I used CCI's LPM (350) primers in my hot 10mm Power Pistol powder loads instead of the LP primers called for. In addition, I found the same thing happened when I used CCI SR (400) primers instead of SP (500) in my 357mag loads and H110 powder in my leverguns.

I asked what the difference was between CCI's SPM (550) and SR (400) primers and after comparing the specs on both she told me that CCI SPM (550) and SR (400) primers are the same size (small primers are the same size, rifle and pistol, it's the large primers where the rifle primers are a tiny bit taller than large pistol primers), have the same cup material and thickness, have the same flash powder composition, and have the same amount of flash powder.

I said that it sounded to me like they were the same primers to which she laughed and said that she reloads a number of calibers, can get any primer she wants any time, and has settled upon only a few primer types for all her handloading, SR for all her SP pistol loads, SRM for all her SR rifle loads, LPM for all her LP loads and LRM for all her LR loads as she found the same thing; higher, more consistent velocities and lower SDs and ESs on the chrono.

She said she adjusted her powder charges accordingly and agreed with me that a good starting point for loads when using magnum primers was 1/2 grain less powder than you'd start with a non-magnum primer but that it was only her personal preference and that CCI recommended that a handloader use the proper primer as called out in the reloading manual.

YMMV

jcw · Post by **jcw** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:29 pm

I use both 2400 and H-110. I like both but the 2400 seems to be a bit dirty. My manuals show that magnum primers should be use with the H-110.

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:49 pm

COSteve wrote:
Nath wrote:I have stacks of small rifle primers.
Would they be hot enough for H110?

N.
I use them almost exclusively after talking with the Tech Support lady at CCI a few years back during the primer shortages. When I told her I wanted to talk tech stuff and not complain about availability she was happy to talk. She said she'd worked at CCI for 37 years in the tech support dept and it became evident quickly that she really knew her stuff. I mentioned that I'd found that I got higher, more consistent velocities and lower SDs and ESs when I used CCI's LPM (350) primers in my hot 10mm Power Pistol powder loads instead of the LP primers called for. In addition, I found the same thing happened when I used CCI SR (400) primers instead of SP (500) in my 357mag loads and H110 powder in my leverguns.

I asked what the difference was between CCI's SPM (550) and SR (400) primers and after comparing the specs on both she told me that CCI SPM (550) and SR (400) primers are the same size (small primers are the same size, rifle and pistol, it's the large primers where the rifle primers are a tiny bit taller than large pistol primers), have the same cup material and thickness, have the same flash powder composition, and have the same amount of flash powder.

I said that it sounded to me like they were the same primers to which she laughed and said that she reloads a number of calibers, can get any primer she wants any time, and has settled upon only a few primer types for all her handloading, SR for all her SP pistol loads, SRM for all her SR rifle loads, LPM for all her LP loads and LRM for all her LR loads as she found the same thing; higher, more consistent velocities and lower SDs and ESs on the chrono.

She said she adjusted her powder charges accordingly and agreed with me that a good starting point for loads when using magnum primers was 1/2 grain less powder than you'd start with a non-magnum primer but that it was only her personal preference and that CCI recommended that a handloader use the proper primer as called out in the reloading manual.

YMMV

Thanks for that Steve, good news

N.

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:58 pm

Forms all filled plus additional covering note, remmy 700 at dealers and reciept in my licence pack.

If all goes well I will be granted a one for one variation and obtain the Win94.

It is a shame to lose the 308, good rig, just too much somehow for me nowadays.

I want more use from my rifle, I want to take small game more often and have enough horse power to take fox. I even want to plink now and then again

I want to enjoy reloading more than twice a year or so!

Fingers crossed.

N.

TedH · Post by **TedH** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:01 pm

LilGun for 180's or heavier. VV N110 for everything else.

jdad · Post by **jdad** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:26 pm

TedH wrote:LilGun for 180's or heavier. VV N110 for everything else.

Have you noticed that N110 is no longer in a 2 pound plastic? It's now only available as a 1 pounder and the best local price was $38!

BAGTIC · Post by **BAGTIC** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:55 am

Must be an old list as LilGun isn't represented. I no longer use H110 or 296 since LilGun became available as I find it more flexible.

gundownunder · Post by **gundownunder** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:41 am

A lot of it will end up coming down to what your gun likes.
As a general rule most 357s seem to do real well with jacketed bullets and all sorts of powder but if you want to use cast bullets a lot of guns seem to start getting fussy.
My Marlin cowboy seems to only like cast bullets if they are heavy and then the harder I drive them the better it likes them.
I've used Bluedot, 2400, ADI 2205 (same as 4227), and they all work well. 2205 leaves a lot of crud in the barrel but gives nice even results, 2400 seems to be more variable.
All those blokes on the other side of the pond keep raving about their Lilgun, and it's bloody annoying cause we can't get it in the land of Oz, but I've been reading about Alliant 300MP and it sounds like it might be very similar to Lilgun, so it's on my list to try.

44-40 Willy · Post by **44-40 Willy** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:50 pm

Another fan of 2400 here. 14.5grs behind a 158gr jacketed bullet lit off by a SR primer. Both of my 357 rifles like this load.

Although I find Blaine's use of Blue Dot interesting. 30 years ago I really loved that powder in the 41 Mag. Now Alliant says it's a no-no in the 41.

The 158gr is just a good all around bullet weight for the 357 Mag.

scarville · Post by **scarville** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:11 pm

I've found 18.0 gr of 300-MP behind a Hornady FP/XTP to work pretty well.

Charles · Post by **Charles** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:23 pm

A few years back Paco Kelly pulled the bullets from some of the first year production 357 Magnum ammo and found a charge of 2400 powder.

I started loading the 357 Magnum round 50 years ago and 2400 was the standard powder. I continue to load the round with 2400 and see no reason to change.

Arminius · Post by **Arminius** » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:19 pm

For warm, but not top Magnum loads ( not Deer or Javelina hunting, but plinking and self defense ) I used 158 grs Bullets and up to 7.5 grs VV N 340.

Much cleaner burning than Unique, nice metering, no fireballs.

Also 10.6 grs N 340, 240 grs bullets and the .44 Mag are a JOY!

Hermann

357 loadings???

357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???

Re: 357 loadings???