What Does This Mean ?
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What Does This Mean ?
"I'm your huckleberry"
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YMMV - "I'm your man", or "The right man for the job" (i.e., a favorite).
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When I looked it up, an older definition (reportedly 1835) meant " "person of little consequence", or of lower extraction.
Another suggested a person who might be easily or willingly talked into something, i.e., gullible.
The example used was Tom Sawyer talking Huckleberry Finn into finishing the paint job on the fence.
Another suggested a person who might be easily or willingly talked into something, i.e., gullible.
The example used was Tom Sawyer talking Huckleberry Finn into finishing the paint job on the fence.
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Government office attracts the power-mad, yet it's people who just want to be left alone to live life on their own terms who are considered dangerous.
History teaches that it's a small window in which people can fight back before it is too dangerous to fight back.
History teaches that it's a small window in which people can fight back before it is too dangerous to fight back.
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i mostly agree. in this instance doc was trying to rattle ringo, sort ofPete44ru wrote:YMMV - "I'm your man", or "The right man for the job" (i.e., a favorite).
provoking him to finish their conflict. almost sarcastic you might say.
careful what you wish for, you might just get it.
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Always have an ace-in-the-hole...just like that .45 behind his back. In every fight................CHEAT! 
There is no such thing as a fair fight. So win it. You walk away....they don't. The first rule of riddles is redirection...take it from there Pards & win.
Do you see the redirection illustrated? Look at the picture again....
That's Kenpo.
LB
There is no such thing as a fair fight. So win it. You walk away....they don't. The first rule of riddles is redirection...take it from there Pards & win.
Do you see the redirection illustrated? Look at the picture again....
That's Kenpo.
LB
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Doc was offering to fight Johnny Ringo. Wyatt was not going to fight him at the time. Curly Bill then stops Ringo saying "he's just drunk, that's all."
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Aww!!! yes I see what you're sayin...LeverBob wrote:Always have an ace-in-the-hole...just like that .45 behind his back. In every fight................CHEAT!
There is no such thing as a fair fight. So win it. You walk away....they don't. The first rule of riddles is redirection...take it from there Pards & win.
Do you see the redirection illustrated? Look at the picture again....
That's Kenpo.
LB
This movie is in my top 10 list of all time fav's
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Is that holster rig period?
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Pretty sure.
Several original guns got used. Texas Jack and his friend (can't remember name) in Wyatt's little posse were the actual gun prop guys, they knew their stuff.
For something that saw that much screen time i don't think they would use something obviously wrong. Might be a few minor changes or slightly off by age, but not much.
I've seen a couple fairly similar shoulder rigs from the time.
Several original guns got used. Texas Jack and his friend (can't remember name) in Wyatt's little posse were the actual gun prop guys, they knew their stuff.
For something that saw that much screen time i don't think they would use something obviously wrong. Might be a few minor changes or slightly off by age, but not much.
I've seen a couple fairly similar shoulder rigs from the time.
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Don't know about the holster rig, but got to be one of the best movies ever made.
when your enemy is within range so are you
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"Another suggested a person who might be easily or willingly talked into something, i.e., gullible.
The example used was Tom Sawyer talking Huckleberry Finn into finishing the paint job on the fence."
This is what I always figured was meant.
John
The example used was Tom Sawyer talking Huckleberry Finn into finishing the paint job on the fence."
This is what I always figured was meant.
John
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-Col. Jeff Cooper, 1968
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It is 19th Century slang and means pretty much as other have said, "I'm the person you are looking for," or "I'm the man for the job." It has nothing to do with Mark Twain's novels.
"Huckleberry" was used in the 19th Century to denote a a small unit of measure. "I'm a huckleberry over your persimmon" meant "I'm just a bit better than you." In that context "huckleberry" denoted a small unit of measure, like a "tad". A second, related, meaning was a person who was small and unimportant but in that context the word was usually used ironically in mock self-depreciation.
Now ain't that a daisy!
"Huckleberry" was used in the 19th Century to denote a a small unit of measure. "I'm a huckleberry over your persimmon" meant "I'm just a bit better than you." In that context "huckleberry" denoted a small unit of measure, like a "tad". A second, related, meaning was a person who was small and unimportant but in that context the word was usually used ironically in mock self-depreciation.
Now ain't that a daisy!
What most people call a "right" is the equivalent of a dog walking on a leash. Just because your leash is a little longer than the other dogs' does not mean you don't have a master.
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You know, when the wife and I saw that movie, I told her that he had a gun behind his back. She hadn't even noticed his arm behind his back as, like most, she was watching his fingers play with the butt of the holstered gun. Later, she ask how I knew. I reminded her that when I answer the door, my left hand is always behind my back (I'm a southpaw, and most folks will look at a persons right hand if they look at all). Then I ask her what was in my left hand. Now, this is one of her favorite movies, and she thinks Kilmer stole the show, so everytime we watch the movie, she remarks about the left hand.
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"I'm your Huckleberry" ends up more or less synonymous with "At your service", or the more socially loaded "I'm your boy."
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I always thought it sounded a bit gay said to another guy.....He might say it to a lady without annoying me.
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"I'm your huckleberry" in other words, "I'm your worst nightmare." Pick on someone your own size. Like me!
Casta...you see it
Jeep.....your see it too.
You two studs have the fighters instinct...you have good "Zen" & would do well in Kenpo or any fight. Under most any of conditions.
Redirection is but one facet of deception: the subtle, hidden, clouded, fogged.....inscrutibility. Using old fashioned trickery wins. "There is no second place winner."
I have two recommendations for your reading pleasure at this time, if'n y'all are interested.
The Book of Five Rings... by Musashi, the greatest Samari. Defeated only once by a farmer with a Jo stick, which is about 5' long & used to carry buckets of water. (The farmer had been defeated about a year earlier but spared, because he fought so well). The farmer went into a cave for about 12 mo.s & incorporated Musashi's sword techniques into his own art, challenged the great swordman & defeated him. Returning the favor, he spared Musashi....thus, the book.
This is the Japanese businessmans bible & how he conducts his relations. It is warfare to him.
No. 1: The Art of War by Sun Tzu. All modern armed forces on Earth study these tactical & strategic principles as detailed in his writing... & the Kenpo techniques taught to the Egyptian army as detailed on the hyroglyphics on the walls of the Temple at Karnac. Here's why.....
There are only three copies in the world of one particularly important book: "The Principles & Tactics of the Egyptian Army". Only three. One copy is owned by the Russians, one by England & one by the USA. I know of only one place where you can learn those tactics, strategies & techniques... & that is in a Kenpo School.
Kenpo is that old. Doc used those tactics & deceptions as portrayed by Kilmer.
The "Habyru" (Hebrew warriors protecting the northern trade routes into Egypt-the "Land of Goshen" in the Prophet Josephs' time) were trained in the art before they were enslaved 400 yrs. before Moses time.
In my mind, someone with the natural skills of the real Doc Holliday & his prodigeous intellect would be familiar with those principles. Being a poker player, he was mearly playing "poker" with Ringo. He had a "pat hand" & knew it. He knew & was ready...fully trained.
He picked a worthy adversary...Ringo was a classically educated man with a high level of physical skills. Fast & accurate. Fully trained & deadly. However, even he could be shaded; fooled.
Think of it, the knowledge to be gained from one picture in a movie.
LB
Casta...you see it
Jeep.....your see it too.
You two studs have the fighters instinct...you have good "Zen" & would do well in Kenpo or any fight. Under most any of conditions.
Redirection is but one facet of deception: the subtle, hidden, clouded, fogged.....inscrutibility. Using old fashioned trickery wins. "There is no second place winner."
I have two recommendations for your reading pleasure at this time, if'n y'all are interested.
The Book of Five Rings... by Musashi, the greatest Samari. Defeated only once by a farmer with a Jo stick, which is about 5' long & used to carry buckets of water. (The farmer had been defeated about a year earlier but spared, because he fought so well). The farmer went into a cave for about 12 mo.s & incorporated Musashi's sword techniques into his own art, challenged the great swordman & defeated him. Returning the favor, he spared Musashi....thus, the book.
This is the Japanese businessmans bible & how he conducts his relations. It is warfare to him.
No. 1: The Art of War by Sun Tzu. All modern armed forces on Earth study these tactical & strategic principles as detailed in his writing... & the Kenpo techniques taught to the Egyptian army as detailed on the hyroglyphics on the walls of the Temple at Karnac. Here's why.....
There are only three copies in the world of one particularly important book: "The Principles & Tactics of the Egyptian Army". Only three. One copy is owned by the Russians, one by England & one by the USA. I know of only one place where you can learn those tactics, strategies & techniques... & that is in a Kenpo School.
Kenpo is that old. Doc used those tactics & deceptions as portrayed by Kilmer.
The "Habyru" (Hebrew warriors protecting the northern trade routes into Egypt-the "Land of Goshen" in the Prophet Josephs' time) were trained in the art before they were enslaved 400 yrs. before Moses time.
In my mind, someone with the natural skills of the real Doc Holliday & his prodigeous intellect would be familiar with those principles. Being a poker player, he was mearly playing "poker" with Ringo. He had a "pat hand" & knew it. He knew & was ready...fully trained.
He picked a worthy adversary...Ringo was a classically educated man with a high level of physical skills. Fast & accurate. Fully trained & deadly. However, even he could be shaded; fooled.
Think of it, the knowledge to be gained from one picture in a movie.
LB
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Wow, very informative, insightful and thought provoking LB.
I would also think one of Doc’s added advantages of being cool under fire
was he knew his days were numbered with his illness and he had made peace
with death.
I would also think one of Doc’s added advantages of being cool under fire
was he knew his days were numbered with his illness and he had made peace
with death.
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Bought this on sale last weekend in Blu-Ray.
Great flick.
Don
Great flick.
Don
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Exactly right Pard...your insight serves you well.casastahle wrote:Wow, very informative, insightful and thought provoking LB.
I would also think one of Doc’s added advantages of being cool under fire
was he knew his days were numbered with his illness and he had made peace
with death.
LB
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So what kind of gun did Val have in the show and what Cal.
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You'll love the answer to that question, lots of cool pictures as well
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Tombstone
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Tombstone
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Sorry, but Huckleberry Finn was not one of the boys Tom talked into whitewashing the fence.John in MS wrote:"Another suggested a person who might be easily or willingly talked into something, i.e., gullible.
The example used was Tom Sawyer talking Huckleberry Finn into finishing the paint job on the fence."
This is what I always figured was meant.
John
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No, he wasn't.
Government office attracts the power-mad, yet it's people who just want to be left alone to live life on their own terms who are considered dangerous.
History teaches that it's a small window in which people can fight back before it is too dangerous to fight back.
History teaches that it's a small window in which people can fight back before it is too dangerous to fight back.
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Doc's Guns... (My Newest "I Want One" Colt Lightning )
Doc Holliday draws his SAA Quickdraw and Colt Lightning.
Doc Holliday holds his SAA and Lightning on Billy Clanton when Billy tells him he's probably seeing double due to his drunkenness with Doc quickly retorting, "I got two guns, one for each of you".
Doc places his SAA and Lightning on the card table, telling Ed Bailey they could be "friends" again.
)Doc Holliday draws his SAA Quickdraw and Colt Lightning.
Doc Holliday holds his SAA and Lightning on Billy Clanton when Billy tells him he's probably seeing double due to his drunkenness with Doc quickly retorting, "I got two guns, one for each of you".
Doc places his SAA and Lightning on the card table, telling Ed Bailey they could be "friends" again.