A couple of old neat photos. What lever is in 1st photo?

[rangerider7]

What do you think?

[bdhold]

cool and authentic

[Phideaux]

Those top two fellows look like the could be some of my in-laws!

The picture looks like they are the real deal. Thanks for sharing.

[C. Cash]

Wonderful photos RR7. I think period photos of people holding 1860 Henry's must be pretty rare. This is one of the few I have seen, and the broken open Smith is pretty neat as well.

[RIHMFIRE]

first photo the guys look real
the second is a city slicker.....look at his shoes....

[pwl44m]

Those aren't shoes, those r house slippers- they r required for posting here.
I really like the first foto-the Guy on the left looks to have had to put His gun belt back on(ie) on the out side of His Vest.I'll bet each one of Us Sees something different.
Still- Great Pics. all the pics of My ancetors have a Kid on Their Lap.

[Booger Bill]

On the secound picture I would like to see what that plate on the henery says. Also like all the guns. That hat has to go though!

[C. Cash]

first photo the guys look real
the second is a city slicker.....look at his shoes....

It's possible, but Cowboys and Lawmen alike wore shoes at times. Take a look at old Ranching photos of the Cowboys at dances and on the front porches. You'll see some shoes in the mix.

Wondering also if that second guy could use ammo for his Smith's and for his Henry. Was the No. 3 Russian made in the rimfire Henry round at any point? Seems like that was the first caliber offered.

17+12=29 rounds coming at you before he had to reload, and with those Smith's he could reload fast.

[Booger Bill]

Where is the holster? That could be a bridgeport rig?

[Huntermb]

is the guy on the right in the first picture missing part of the grip of his pistola?

[Mokwaw]

Not positive, but maybe a Bullard..........

[J Miller]

I'm thinking the top two guys are just out of high school and posing for the pics. Neither has ammo in their gun belts, and neither has that look that says they've been any were or done anything. The guy on the right; the off side grip is in shadow, if you look real close you can see it.
The lever gun may be a Colt Burgess.

The second photo, don't let it fool you. That guy "may" be a city slicker but he's not posing. Ammo in the belt, familiarity with the guns, and that look in his eyes.
Oh, and that looks to be a military Henry. Notice the sling swivel on the barrel.
That hat is like some I've seen on Spanish or Basque folks. My guess is he's an immigrant taking advantage of modern weaponry.

Just my observations.

Hey Rangerider7, am I close or not even in the ball park???

Joe

[rangerider7]

J Miller, I think you are right in all cases except; It's a Bullard. Good job Mokwaw. Great observations by both of you. Atta Boys coming your way.

[J Miller]

Joe

[Nate Kiowa Jones]

J Miller, I think you are right in all cases except; It's a Bullard. Good job Mokwaw. Great observations by both of you. Atta Boys coming your way.

I think you meant Burgess right?

[rangerider7]

I stand corrected. Thanks, Nate Kiowa Jones. The photo was identified as it being a Bullard but I can see you are right on.

[jeepnik]

The second one looks like a younger Stacey Keech. But he also looks like a dude.

[Mac in Mo]

I don't know what kind of lever that is in the first photo, but it seems to have a very thin butt stock. Also, both of the guys have their gun belts on over their vests, as if hastily buckled on for the photo. The one on the left looks like his belt would be up near his armpits if he was standing up.
I agree with Joe. The second photo subject looks as if he's been around the block a time or two.

Kevin

[Nate Kiowa Jones]

I stand corrected. Thanks, Nate Kiowa Jones. The photo was identified as it being a Bullard but I can see you are right on.

Joe got them both. But, the second photo probably got flipped. I say that because IIRC the originals had the sling attachment on the left side of the barrel. The guy is probably right handed, too.

[Nate Kiowa Jones]

Where is the holster? That could be a bridgeport rig?

I think it's a slim-jim for a colt style CB with the top somewhat cut down. And, because the Smith is such a bigger gun it protrudes from the holster more. If you look close you can see the top of the holster.

[Rube Burrows]

I can see the bottom guy's holster pretty good on my screen. Its just a dark colored holster and blends in with his pants.

[AJMD429]

Those aren't shoes, those r house slippers- they r required for posting here.

Yep. That guy is actually YK's great, great, grandpaw...

[765x53]

The shoes in the second picture look like Ojibwa moccasins.
He rides a canoe instead of a horse.

[the telegraphist]

Gday C. Cash. The S&W American model or number 3 was chambered in 44 S&W Rimfire originally. Before being chambered in 44 American. Some were also chambered in 44 Henry rimfire, dont know the exact numbers of each. The Russian chambered guns both for the Russian contracts and civilian use were only chambered in 44 Russian. Its possible that the picture of the American model with the Henry rifle could well have been in 44 Henry rimfire. To chamber the Russian back to rimfire would cause a number of problems, not insurmountable but probably expensive. I believe many of those in 44 Henry went to Mexico.

[Ysabel Kid]

Those aren't shoes, those r house slippers- they r required for posting here.

Cool photos, as always!

IIRC, if one had the means, a cowhand usually had a pair of "town shoes" for walking around in. Boots were made specifically for riding a horse, and designed for that function. The pointed toe allows it to slip into (and out of) a stirrup fast, and the high heel gives better leverage in the stirrup. Not the most comfortable for extended walking though (not that a true cowhand would want to walk anywhere he could ride!). If you could only afford one pair, you'd have the boots...

[Mutt]

The feller in the 2nd photo looks like a fine Cajon from the south swamps of
Gator-run Louisiana to me.,,,,,,,,,,,


,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Mutt

[765x53]

The feller in the 2nd photo looks like a fine Cajon from the south swamps of
Gator-run Louisiana to me.,,,,,,,,,,,


,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Mutt

Or a Metif from Canada.

[C. Cash]

Gday C. Cash. The S&W American model or number 3 was chambered in 44 S&W Rimfire originally. Before being chambered in 44 American. Some were also chambered in 44 Henry rimfire, dont know the exact numbers of each. The Russian chambered guns both for the Russian contracts and civilian use were only chambered in 44 Russian. Its possible that the picture of the American model with the Henry rifle could well have been in 44 Henry rimfire. To chamber the Russian back to rimfire would cause a number of problems, not insurmountable but probably expensive. I believe many of those in 44 Henry went to Mexico.

Thank you Sir! I'm not too schooled on the early Smith and Wesson's, but after writing that, I remembered John Taffin had stated in his Book of the 44 that the first Russians WERE 44 Henry Rimfire. That is quite an armament that the second dude has there, if you think about it. Like the others, I would like to know what it says on the plaque.

[the telegraphist]

Gday again, yes the Russians were shown 44 rimfires, but they said no, we want a central fire number and thus the 44 Russian was born. Its all good stuff. Thats according to Pate on the S&W American model.