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If you guys remember awhile back, I was working on turning
my Browning Citori into a potential “do it all gun”.
Well I finally got to the range this morning to sight in that
1x-4x Leupold, that mounts to a rail that in-turn mounts to the V-rib.
That all went great, an awesome little scope BTW. And to top it off
I had the entire range to myself. Working second shift does have its
advantages now and then.
The problem I encountered, was the rifled screw in choke tube
just doesn’t cut it with sabot slugs.
I did a quick bore sight-in with the bore laser to get me on
paper at 50 yrds. I then shot 5 rounds at 50 yrds. getting it dialed in
actually quite well. I then shot out to 100 yrd. with five more.
My accuracy diminished drastically at this range.
Hummm, I walk out to the targets and realize 9 of the 10 rounds had key-holed.
.
Apparently that short little amount of rifling in that screw in tube is not near
enough to stabilize a Sabot slug.
I wish I had brought along a couple boxes of Foster type slugs. I have a feeling
they will do much better with this setup.
O well live and learn and spend money all at the same time.
PS: Check out the casual range footwear. That should qualify this as an on
topic post
A scope on a stack barrel???? Oh my what is the world coming to??
Just teasing. I never could understand how an inch or so of rifling at the end of a barrel could even begin to stabilize a slug or a sabot.
I love having the range to myself. I've done my best shooting then. Picked up lots of left over brass, scarfed lead from the back stop, watched the local wildlife and just enjoyed the heck out of it.
Joe
***Be sneaky, get closer, bust the cap on him when you can put the ball where it counts .***
Hey hang on! A good group at 50yds is still very usefull! I once put two fosters in the same hole at 50yds from one of those brownings on smooth tubes and open chokes with just the bead.
That citori is a real nice pointing shotgun....
but
If I was going to choose a shotgun for a do-all gun..
I would select the combo remingtion 870 express with a
fully rifled slug barrel with a cantilever for scope and a short remchoke barrel...
It takes about a minute or two to change the barrels out...
and I would get mine in camo.... of course!
screw-in Rifle chokes dont seem to work for me....
I have one for my 1187 and its a waste of money....
But if I really wanted a do-all gun...I like to have a drilling...
12ga and o6 or something like that....
one of my buddies hunts with one...
one barrel has a shell for turkey
one has buckshot for running shots....
and then the rifle...and anything that walks by.....
goes in the freezer....
I tried one of those extended length rifled tubes in my 12 ga also. I shoot home made slugs from a LEE mold. The rifled tube helped them shoot a little more accurately, but still not what I would consider hunting with past 50 yards.
Nath wrote:Hey hang on! A good group at 50yds is still very usefull! I once put two fosters in the same hole at 50yds from one of those brownings on smooth tubes and open chokes with just the bead.
It may not be a varmint gun but from a stand,,,,,
Nath
I agree Nath, at 50 yrds. it was smack on. I just didn't
care for the bullets going through the target sideways.
I have a good feeling Fosters will be the sweet deal with this one.
RIHMFIRE wrote:That citori is a real nice pointing shotgun....
but If I was going to choose a shotgun for a do-all gun..
I would select the combo remingtion 870 express with a
fully rifled slug barrel with a cantilever for scope and a short remchoke barrel...
It takes about a minute or two to change the barrels out...
and I would get mine in camo.... of course!
screw-in Rifle chokes dont seem to work for me....
I have one for my 1187 and its a waste of money....
But if I really wanted a do-all gun...I like to have a drilling...
12ga and o6 or something like that....
one of my buddies hunts with one...
one barrel has a shell for turkey
one has buckshot for running shots....
and then the rifle...and anything that walks by.....
goes in the freezer....
RIHMFIRE,
I do have one just like you'r talking about.
I have a Browning BPS with a scoped cantilever barrel.
This is just me playing around in a hobby I love.
More money than brains I guess, and not much of either at that.
RIHMFIRE wrote:FYI
in the NRA American Hunter Mag this month.....
they are featuring an American Slugfest....new slug guns!
casastahle
You got me thinkng about buying a slug gun now.....
and this article might push me over the top....
like I need someone to twist my arm...
i'm gonna need another job.....
RIHMFIRE,
I am just one of many enablers in this forum.
As a matter of fact, this past Sunday afternoon
Lady J and I had the honor of spending about two hours
with rjohns94 (Mike) and his lovely wife at there house.
Now talk about an enabler, I left his house with all kinds
Of "I wants" and "I needs" swimming around in my empty head.
I always thought that a double-barrel (or side-by-side) would be a GREAT 'do it all' gun, with the help of some chamber/barrel inserts, especially ones 'indexed' so that whenever you used them, they were oriented the same way, and some adjustable mechanism would allow repeatable zeroing within reason.
Imagine the combinations you could do with a 12-gauge double gun:
I have had good results with the choke tube years ago. I used the BRI at 1350 fps loaded by Winchester. They would group 4-5 inches at 100 yards and I killed a handful of deer with it. My full rifled isn't that much better,
I have read were the slower sabots do much better through the tube like the 1350 buck hammers. Try them and if they don't work I can attest to the Federal true balls through the smoth bore.
I am watching closely because I just bought a Citori waterfowl from Cabelas last summer and thought about doing the same thing. How well are your barrels regulated?
EdinCT wrote:I have had good results with the choke tube years ago. I used the BRI at 1350 fps loaded by Winchester. They would group 4-5 inches at 100 yards and I killed a handful of deer with it. My full rifled isn't that much better,
I have read were the slower sabots do much better through the tube like the 1350 buck hammers. Try them and if they don't work I can attest to the Federal true balls through the smoth bore.
I am watching closely because I just bought a Citori waterfowl from Cabelas last summer and thought about doing the same thing. How well are your barrels regulated?
Best of luck,
Ed
Ed you may be on to something here with using a slower moving slug.
The Rems. I was using are rolling along at 1900 FPS. That’s cookin
along for a 385 gr. Bullet. My shoulder can attest this morning with
the black and blue results after just 10 rounds.
As to the regulated barrel question, they seem fine. I’m only using
the top barrel anyway for slug shooting, so in essence I’m using
It as a single shot slug gun. If I lived in a state that allowed the use
Of buckshot this would be a real sweet deal of a set up.
When I was 18 I traded a Remington 1100 for a New Fox model B double. My Dad said I was a foolish trader but I did it and when I patterned it the left barrel shot so low that it wouldn't hit the point of aim.
Well I sent it back and waited three months for it to be worked on. Savage rebarreled it and it centered its patterns perfect.
It also shot Super X foster slugs like a double rifle out to 60 yards or so.With the double beads I could hit a 1 lb coffee can any time. A friend of a friend who was a police officer talked me out of it because haveing the choice of slug or 3"#4 buck was perfect for his squad car.
I have seen a over bored BPS that belonged to a friend that had a modified choke and it would shoot 00 buck into a 1' circle at 50 yards. If I could get one to shoot #4 buck like that what a coyote gun and with a canilevered mount and slug tube I thought it would not be a bad single shot deer gun, and maybe it would be like my model B and be a double at under 70 yards or so. I have a hastings 870 12 and smooth 870 20 but, two sons who seem to have them during deer season and I have had private land where rifles have been allowed. But I am down two properties this year so may be forced to resort to state land shotgun.
Please keep us posted. The 1350 fps buckhammers /BRI may be the berries. And I am to poor this year to experiment .
Good Luck,
Ed
RIHMFIRE,
