WHICH WILL BE CELEBRATING IT'S 100th BIRTHDAY NEXT YEAR !
I'm saving my pennies, so I can buy one of those new/georgeous Remington 1911-R1 .45's in 2011.
Anyone else care to play ?
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I think you've made an EXCELLENT choice. I haven't shot one but the three I've seen looked to be consistently quality.Pete44ru wrote:While recognizing that this forum is dedicated to leverguns, I can also recognize that some levergunners are dedicated to the 1911 pistol -
WHICH WILL BE CELEBRATING IT'S 100th BIRTHDAY NEXT YEAR !
I'm saving my pennies, so I can buy one of those new/georgeous Remington 1911-R1 .45's in 2011.
Anyone else care to play ?![]()
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While I do agree that 1911's are heavy and low capacity, it IS a 45 and some of that capacity can be negated by effective force...COSteve wrote:While this may be considered blaspheme, I don't find the 1911 platform appealing at all. Even though I carried one for 3 yrs in the Army and used it in combat, I don't think that they are a good choice for me. The thin grip is hard for me to get a solid grip on, the heavy weight for the limited rounds is a drawback, their notoriously finicky feeding of some bullet styles, and the fact that most, if not all 1911 style pistols sold today require significant work just to get them to run turns me off. It's true that the 1911 is a wonderful piece of history and revolutionary in it's design but like the flintlock, it's been passed by more modern, more reliable designs.
I demand absolute reliability in a CCW or HD weapon. Modern combat pistols are much better suited for my needs without all the hassles of the 1911 platforms. For example, my HD Glock 22 has well over 27,000rds through it and my CCW Glock 23 has 4,700rds through it, both without a single failure. That's right, directly out of the box, no adjustments, no tweaking, no issues. I just cleaned them lightly and they run. And my Glocks aren't unique as all but a few defective ones run perfectly right out of the box. I've shot many different bullet weights, bullet types, and loads through them and they've eaten everything I've fed them.
+1COSteve wrote:Lest you all think I'm a 1911 hater, consider this from my post above, "It's true that the 1911 is a wonderful piece of history and revolutionary in it's design..." I love the genius of John Brown's design. They are beautiful and absolutely iconic firearms, however, today you can get a full size 45acp with higher capacity, lighter weight, and better ergonomics that is reliable right out of the box at a considerably cheaper price.
A pistol collector wouldn't be worth his salt without an example of one but some of us don't collect them, we buy only what we shoot; and we shoot a lot. For my defensive firearm choices, reliability and ergonomics trump nostalgia every time.
So for me the plastic fantastics so in vogue do not fit my hand. My reactionary arms are as fully reliable and accurate as those "tupperware jobs" so many love. The point is that you should get what feels right for you. It is enough to say that you'd prefer a Glock 21. However, for a CENTENNIAL celebration it seems something traditional might be in order... maybe a Thompson SMG!JohnB wrote:+1COSteve wrote:Lest you all think I'm a 1911 hater, consider this from my post above, "It's true that the 1911 is a wonderful piece of history and revolutionary in it's design..." I love the genius of John Brown's design. They are beautiful and absolutely iconic firearms, however, today you can get a full size 45acp with higher capacity, lighter weight, and better ergonomics that is reliable right out of the box at a considerably cheaper price.
A pistol collector wouldn't be worth his salt without an example of one but some of us don't collect them, we buy only what we shoot; and we shoot a lot. For my defensive firearm choices, reliability and ergonomics trump nostalgia every time.
This is the point I was trying to make. Thank you, sir!
Absolutely a valid point. We each have to get what fits us because we are all unique. I can't get a solid grip on any 1911 because the grip is too thin for my hand. I added a Hogue HandAll to my G20/21 Glock and it's fine. Heck, a LAR Grizzly has a perfect grip size for my mit.Hobie wrote:So for me the plastic fantastics so in vogue do not fit my hand.
Well then I guess the original question posed wasn't aimed at you! Some people have nothing but black or camouflaged plastic-fantastic rifles in their sheds and zero lever guns. I couldn't care less.COSteve wrote:While this may be considered blaspheme, I don't find the 1911 platform appealing at all. Even though I carried one for 3 yrs in the Army and used it in combat, I don't think that they are a good choice for me. The thin grip is hard for me to get a solid grip on, the heavy weight for the limited rounds is a drawback, their notoriously finicky feeding of some bullet styles, and the fact that most, if not all 1911 style pistols sold today require significant work just to get them to run turns me off. It's true that the 1911 is a wonderful piece of history and revolutionary in it's design but like the flintlock, it's been passed by more modern, more reliable designs.
I demand absolute reliability in a CCW or HD weapon. Modern combat pistols are much better suited for my needs without all the hassles of the 1911 platforms. For example, my HD Glock 22 has well over 27,000rds through it and my CCW Glock 23 has 4,700rds through it, both without a single failure. That's right, directly out of the box, no adjustments, no tweaking, no issues. I just cleaned them lightly and they run. And my Glocks aren't unique as all but a few defective ones run perfectly right out of the box. I've shot many different bullet weights, bullet types, and loads through them and they've eaten everything I've fed them.