OT-Weird question about deer anatomy

[Jason_W]

I'm looking to design a test intended to simulate a textbook ideal hit to the broadside of an adult male whitetail deer. The model will consist of hide, bone, and ballistics gel. I just need to know how thick to make it. I'm thinking 20" total will do. Thoughts?

[86er]

For each 10 pounds of live body weight there is 1" of space between the shoulder blades on average. Thereby 10" represents a 100 pound deer and so on.

[Jason_W]

For each 10 pounds of live body weight there is 1" of space between the shoulder blades on average. Thereby 10" represents a 100 pound deer and so on.

Thanks. That's really helpful. I didn't know there was a formula.

[86er]

This is one of the ways we estimate live weight when a deer must be quartered to be brought in from the field. Oh, and the measurement is taken UNDER the shoulder blades (does not include the bone) measured from armpit to armpit. It is will give you a good representative estimated weight.

[Buck Elliott]

THEN A 400-POUNDER WOULD MEASURE 40" ACROSS THE BRISKET...?

I don't think so...

And yes, there ARE 400 -lb mulies (on the hoof) in Wyoming.

[86er]

I looked this up to clarify. I was mistaken on how you take the measurement and the ratio. Spoke too soon - it is 2.25:10:1. I'll post photos to show what I mean. Essentially, 1 inch = 2.25 pounds X 10, measured under the armpits. Stand by for photos.

[Buck Elliott]

THAT sounds a little better...

[86er]

Photo 1 Formulated Weight (FW)= 129 lbs Actual Live Weight(ALW) = 137 lbs


Photo 2 FW = 135 ALW = 130


Photo 3 FW = 157.5 ALW = 162


Photo 4 FW = 123.75 ALW = 125


Photo 5 FW = 247.5 AWL = 244


This works for any deer like whitetail, mule deer, axis, fallow, sika. Elk start to get too big proportionately for this to work. I have many more but I don't know the actual live weight of them. However, when I view the photo and then check the FW it is very close every time.

Good luck with your endeavor and I hope this helps!

[Jason_W]

So, it looks like 13" of gel sandwiched between 2 blocks consisting of hide and bone will simulate the thickness of a medium sized deer from one side of the rib cage to the other.

I'm looking at a test block that will be approx 1/8" soaked hide-->1" gel-->1/2" fleshed pork ribs 13"--> gel block -->ribs--> gel-->hide =16 1/4" total inches of stuff .

I don't expect it to stop most bullets, but the wax backer blocks will.