Case dimensions - .50-110 Sharps versus the .50-110 WCF?

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Case dimensions - .50-110 Sharps versus the .50-110 WCF?

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86er was kind enough to send me a couple rounds for my cartridge display board, including one in Starline brass marked ".50-110". I was looking up this in my "Cartridges of the World" book (10th edition), but it lists two rounds with the .50-110 designation. One is a .50-110 Sharps and the other a .50-110 Winchester. I can't seem to find any case dimensions, and was wondering how close these rounds are to one another. Does anyone have the case specs for each?

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Y.K. I am in the process of building a .50-140 on a Ruger #3 action with a Pac-Nor stainless barrel. I have to send it to Mic McP. to have the top of the breech block relieved. It started life as a .45-70 and as you know the rim dimensions of the two a just a little different. The barrel is threaded, chambered and fit to the action. I may have an extra .50-140 Sharps dummy laying around. Let me know. 1886.
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The 50-110 you have from Starline is the Winchester round I believe. The Sharps verson is more like the 50-70 Govt, only longer. The rim of the Winchester round is smaller, if I recall. I'm away from home and my books.

I'm surprised that Cartridges of the World doesn't have case dimensions of the two to compare.
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1886 wrote:Y.K. I am in the process of building a .50-140 on a Ruger #3 action with a Pac-Nor stainless barrel. I have to send it to Mic McP. to have the top of the breech block relieved. It started life as a .45-70 and as you know the rim dimensions of the two a just a little different. The barrel is threaded, chambered and fit to the action. I may have an extra .50-140 Sharps dummy laying around. Let me know. 1886.
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Malamute wrote:The 50-110 you have from Starline is the Winchester round I believe. The Sharps verson is more like the 50-70 Govt, only longer. The rim of the Winchester round is smaller, if I recall. I'm away from home and my books.

I'm surprised that Cartridges of the World doesn't have case dimensions of the two to compare.
I did some digging and I am 99% sure it is a .50-110 WCF round. Still interested in the exact dimensions of both if you have the info!

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Post by blueroan »

My 50/90 Sharps brass is from Bell, rim is .660 and length is 2.5 inches. Shiloh Sharps stamps the barrel as 50 X 2.5.

50-110 rims are about .600 IIRC. Length is 2.4 inches (I wish Mike Venturino had given case dimensions in his excellent SHOOTING LEVER ACTIONS OF THE OLD WEST; it's a really good book for the lever gunners.)

STARLINE is making brass in both calibers.
When they said SHARPS, I always thought BIG 50!
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Post by 1886 »

I have the following dimensions for the .50-90. I think the rest of the line were/are similar except for case length. The rim measured.663", .528" at the case mouth, 565" at the case head, and a case length of 2.5". If I am reading Cartridges of the World correctly, the 90,100, and 110 employed the same case. They say the diffence lies in the bullet weight and powder charge used. I can not find a drawing of the Winnie version. There is a drawing of the Winchester version and they do look very similar if not identicle but it is just a drawing and I do not know if it is to scale. Hope this helps. 1886.
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