A couple years ago, the guy behind the gun counter at a large sporting-goods store told me something I am not sure is true (imagine that)
According to him, while there is no federal "X guns a month" restriction, there is a policy that if an individual purchases more than (I think) 5 handguns in a thirty-day period, an investigation is triggered, or one's name gets flagged, or put on a list, or some such thing.
True, false, what?
OT- NICS question
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Otto
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OT- NICS question
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Re: OT- NICS question
Kind of true.
If an individual purchases more than one handgun at one time from a dealer (or maybe the same day), there is a form the dealer has to fill out and send in.
More than X per 30 days though, I don't think there is...
If an individual purchases more than one handgun at one time from a dealer (or maybe the same day), there is a form the dealer has to fill out and send in.
More than X per 30 days though, I don't think there is...
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Re: OT- NICS question
I have exceeded that limit every month this past year. 
not true on investigation started or flagged
not true on investigation started or flaggedMike Johnson,
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Re: OT- NICS question
There is no Federal restriction on the number of handguns purchased/transferred/etc - but there IS a reporting requirement, by Federal law, that requires FFL's to report any multiple handgun purchases within a 5 day period, to the BATF.
Most dealers only do so if more than one handgun appears on each yellow, so many will have the buyer fill out separate yellows for each handgun of multiple purchases to save paperwork - if the buyer is well known to them.
http://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RS22458.pdf
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Most dealers only do so if more than one handgun appears on each yellow, so many will have the buyer fill out separate yellows for each handgun of multiple purchases to save paperwork - if the buyer is well known to them.
http://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RS22458.pdf
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Re: OT- NICS question
That's what I'm talking about. So if one buys a brace of pistols, even if it's the first purchase in months, it gets reported as a multiple handgun purchase, right?
Also, it refers to selling to a nonlicensee. What the heck is a nonlicensee? Is there any such thing as a federal handgun license?
Also, it refers to selling to a nonlicensee. What the heck is a nonlicensee? Is there any such thing as a federal handgun license?
Multiple Handgun Sales Reports. Federal law requires FFLs to report to the
Attorney General (AG) whenever they transfer more than one handgun (pistol or revolver)
to any nonlicensee within five consecutive business days.
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"...all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed." Declaration of Independence
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Re: OT- NICS question
IOW a non-FFL. A dealer can transfer all he wants to another dealer without the extra paperwork.Otto wrote:That's what I'm talking about. So if one buys a brace of pistols, even if it's the first purchase in months, it gets reported as a multiple handgun purchase, right?
Also, it refers to selling to a nonlicensee. What the heck is a nonlicensee? Is there any such thing as a federal handgun license?
Multiple Handgun Sales Reports. Federal law requires FFLs to report to the
Attorney General (AG) whenever they transfer more than one handgun (pistol or revolver)
to any nonlicensee within five consecutive business days.
If these walls could talk, I'd listen to the floor.
Re: OT- NICS question
I feel alot safer knowing that these kinds of things are kept track of.
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Re: OT- NICS question
Don't , or maybe we should, forget Kalifornia. Don't they now have a one handgun per month law?
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Re: OT- NICS question
In CA you can buy only one handgun in any 30-day period.Gun Smith wrote:Don't , or maybe we should, forget Kalifornia. Don't they now have a one handgun per month law?
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Re: OT- NICS question
The OP spoke to Federal Law.
[ So if one buys a brace of pistols, even if it's the first purchase in months, it gets reported as a multiple handgun purchase, right?] - NO. Only if one pistol is purchased within five (5) days of the other. If you buy each half of the brace two weeks apart - no report.
[Also, it refers to selling to a nonlicensee. What the heck is a nonlicensee?] - Anyone without an FFL.
[Is there any such thing as a federal handgun license?] - Yes/No - The Federal Firearms License (FFL) covers all firearms)
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[ So if one buys a brace of pistols, even if it's the first purchase in months, it gets reported as a multiple handgun purchase, right?] - NO. Only if one pistol is purchased within five (5) days of the other. If you buy each half of the brace two weeks apart - no report.
[Also, it refers to selling to a nonlicensee. What the heck is a nonlicensee?] - Anyone without an FFL.
[Is there any such thing as a federal handgun license?] - Yes/No - The Federal Firearms License (FFL) covers all firearms)
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Idahoser
Re: OT- NICS question
If the background check is to make sure you're not a criminal, why do they need the serial number? Since they can't keep the records it's not like they could use it to trace the gun if somebody stole it and used it to commit a crime, although that would be nice of them to make sure I got it back.
Re: OT- NICS question
It's funny you should mention that.
In the 70's, I bought a new .357 O/U derringer, a Remington clone, from a local FFL, played with it for a year or so, then sold it privately to an installer who worked with a friend of mine for a local burglar alarm company.
Ten years later, I got a visit from the FBI, who told me they knew I had bought the gun from the FFL, and did I know it's whereabouts ?
Fortunately, I had kept the buyer's info, and passed it on - and never heard about it again.
EXCEPT - That I later found out the gun had been dropped at the scene of a bank robbery, just across a nearby state line, by some Jesse James wannabe !
I have no clue, whether the gun got stolen or sold to some scumbag - and I don't care to know, either !
I learned my lesson early, and at zero cost to me.
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In the 70's, I bought a new .357 O/U derringer, a Remington clone, from a local FFL, played with it for a year or so, then sold it privately to an installer who worked with a friend of mine for a local burglar alarm company.
Ten years later, I got a visit from the FBI, who told me they knew I had bought the gun from the FFL, and did I know it's whereabouts ?
Fortunately, I had kept the buyer's info, and passed it on - and never heard about it again.
EXCEPT - That I later found out the gun had been dropped at the scene of a bank robbery, just across a nearby state line, by some Jesse James wannabe !
I have no clue, whether the gun got stolen or sold to some scumbag - and I don't care to know, either !
I learned my lesson early, and at zero cost to me.
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