Digital Caliper question for you machinists

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Digital Caliper question for you machinists

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A question for any of you machinists or gizmo-ists:

I just bought (finally) a metal digital caliper :mrgreen: to replace my plastic 'dial' one... :oops:

What exactly enables the digital counter to 'measure' on a digital caliper?

I want to know partly because of curiousity, and partly because I'd like to be sure not to scratch or damage whatever it is that the module reads. I don't see any scoring or gear teeth or pattern but I assume there must be something that is being counted as the caliper slides apart.

Just curious.
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I still use a good DIAL caliper. Of course I just recently got a cell-phone. :wink:
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Wait a minute, you have a cell phone --- my wife won't let me have one. :mrgreen:
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An electronic scale ( inside the head ) the good ones will take a lot of abuse.
I have three high grade 0-.100 dial /mechanical ones, they have all gone to repair at 1 time or another, in good shops it is considered normal wear and tear and the shop pays for it.
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I'm with Hobie :D I just can't seem to trust digital junk. I have several dial calipers, (Lyman--Starret--and some Japanese name I can't spell.) Cell phone?? My wife got me one about 5 years ago. When she handed it to me, I said, "just set it on the micro-wave oven." Well, its still there :D :D ----------------------Sixgun (livin' in the past!)
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Cell phone?? Must be some new fangled thing! I use DIAL calipers also! :D
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No one fussin up to vernier calipers? My boss insisted I have a cell phone. Company pays the bill and I carry it. Doesn't work most places where I don't want to be disturbed anyways.
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I like my digital calipers.. handy to convert inches to mm.. can set zero on a cartridge case then measure the others and read variances much more simply between cases.. Only thing I ever had a problem with was using them after being in the cold car over night... they didn't work until the warmed up enough.. Actually that's a good thing I guess because being that cold would prolly give a bad reading with a dial caliper.. But I too would also like to hear how the actual electronic counting is done to give a measurement like AJMD429 asked in the first place.
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I thought I explained that in my response
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In the vernier scale, they are most often encounterd in the larger versions.
In my experience used to measure the machined parts on large commercial aircraft engines, earth moving equipment, etc.
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The working part, called a linear encoder, is basically a vernier scale with the human eye replaced by an optical or electronic read head. On the cheaper calipers the fixed scale has a pattern of lines etched on the back. Inside the read head is a circuit board carrying a similar pattern of lines. These patterns form tiny capacitors and, as the read head moves, the charge is measured and translated into distance. Digital calipers are very convenient to use but a good dial caliper in skilled hands will often give better accuracy and precision. The best linear encoders use optical read heads but then we are talking bigger bucks. The ones I use in my designs have a resolution of 0.1 microns (0.004mils)and cost roughly as much as two Shiloh Sharps.
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0.1 MICRONS????

That's pretty acurate! With my Chinese lathe, 0.001" is about as acurate as I can repeat (maybe). I need more practice with it as I haven't had it that long.
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With my Chinese lathe, 0.001" is about as acurate as I can repeat (maybe).
If it's a 7 x 12 mini-lathe that's about as good as it gets. Those thing are tremendous value for money - I don't know how I ever managed without mine. I shoot vintage guns in odd calibers and use it for making parts, loading accessories, trimming cases etc. The savings in time and cash are great, particularly here in the UK where gun-related stuff is not so easy to get.
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They are neat tools. I use them alot at work for measuring shims and what not. I just got one at the house for the reloading stuff(Frankford Arsenal), it's a bit stiff but will work just fine. I prefer a good micrometer any day for accuracy though.
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Thanks Perry.. That's the answer I was looking for.. I like shooting the old timers too..
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I would like to get a lathe (to go along with my calipers and micrometer...). I also want to build a forge and get a good 100lb anvil...
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Going to cost you some dollars, and you need a good sturdy floor for the lathe and anvil.
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mescalero1 wrote:Going to cost you some dollars, and you need a good sturdy floor for the lathe and anvil.
If I move to Mom's place I've got a shop with the floor AND electrical service. IFF. I still would not use a digital caliper. :D
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I like tools that can't "break" like my vernier caliper (Helios) made I believe in the 1940s.

I do have a cell phone but it is so old it has a rotary dial.
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If it's a 7 x 12 mini-lathe that's about as good as it gets.
It's a 9x20
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I know 20cows. I've been following your posts on this and getting a great deal of vicarious pleasure from your activities. I've only one complaint. Too few reports! :D
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Too few reports!
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