Charles wrote:Terry is a great guy any way you want to measure that. He is somewhat cranky at times and does not suffer fools lightly, but I dont view that as a flaw. These gun boards have lost many truly knowledable people over the years, because they got tired of having folks who don't know squat, telling them they were wrong about this or that.
These boards are festooned with armchair experts and keyboard distinguised marksmen. These "posers" can really get under a fellow's skin.
Charles, This exact statement you made above is the very reason why this Forum has trouble.(honest guy,not being a smart a##,but being truthful)
Let me say this----
When on a computer forum you only have the screen in front of you(no facial expression/no other way of judging than the words typed)
Many of the new guys(just being a new guy "on here" does not equate to what one knows about guns???(what I mean is we could have the World Champion on here and he is a new guy but might not say??
Its all about (how you talk to people) I have to admit (my problem can be "how I take something?? I am working on that as we speak!
But friend-------when someone has a question(young guy/old guy/new guy/old time guy)groups that form "clicks" tend to only see what the "click" group wants seen.
You have a young lad ask a question (lets say, my magazine falls out when I go to fire my gun)??? a real question from some new shooter???
Now, you get a guy----that instead of saying " might help you to verify the magazine is "fully" inserted into the mag well, also verify that you while attempting to disengage the safety(if safety equipped) you are not pressing the mag release instead of safety?? but good luck.
But what if the response was-----These stupid questions people have
(only an idiot doesn't know how to use their gun)
What purpose other than trying to build your own self up by tearing some other person down would that have??(if it annoys you/don't reply)
This is the problem(absolutely no respect for these newer guys trying to learn)
If a post is getting to someone because someone has asked a "certain person" repeatedly the same question over and over again "might be the decent thing to say"(sorry guy I gave you my advice,sorry it didn't help,please try someone else's ideas??) Not (that's stupid/your an idiot/you don't know squat?????/
Ya know, At our gun club,we have a lot of older gents that many now don't compete but sat behind the sidelines.
Most of the time I enjoyed them/was buddies with them---------But---------------------
When each of them buy them self usually ok,gather em up and "wow" you should hear how fast they can ruin a new shooter trying to learn.(so bad,I told em all to go the HE## for 3 years)let em find someone else that did all the setup/teardown/installing night lights/installing the benches on and on.(myself,brother,and buddy)did 90% of actual work! You know what ended up(they shut down the M1 shoots for 2 years)
Guess the click wouldn't clak when work needed to be done??????
They would just sit there behind the firing line and bit##.
They hated the young shooters/said they stole stuff(they didn't)said they were dangerous with guns(they were until being taught because some never handled a gun and instead of helping them they sat on their butts and said :how can this young generation be so stupid"
Sickening.
I say-----Let the big guns of this forum decide how they want their forum???
They just decide??? Let all the members vote to decide ??? Make it just an expert only forum??? or Only guns forum????
But,when people get tired of younger/inexperienced members asking questions(and they have only one thing in mind)make em feel low/bad/stupid about themselves----maybe it is time they get out!
I do want to clear the air on one thing on here, that still sticks in my craw about an episode I had back that someone probably either left(if so wish they hadn't)or foe'd me(that is cool if that that's what they want)and can't change too ??
The issue I had with Buck!
It got heated I know(both ways things went bad)I know---Too bad for it going that way.(I should have just let it go.
He was an old time gun knowledge man too.However there are things I know maybe he doesn't. Anyhow---------
But,when someone puts a (new topic)on this forum only with the intent of "in their mind" helping someone and a response is(it's stupid/only someone that is a Saturday nut job would post that and its garbage,don't waste your time viewing it, etc. ----Yep----should have turned the cheek/but on that level---couldn't
I called em out on it as being rude/then it started from there?? If it was to be done all over again------might just say (dude,only your opinion,that is being disrespectful and please do not comment anymore on this paticular post of mine)
But there is a difference in giving some back in defense(not saying that is right either / and I am viewing things differently now)
and having someone being made to feel like an as they would say an idiot for asking a simple question hoping someone would help.
When it comes to that(the old timer boy click only,otherwise stupid deal) ---I will gladly leave cause that aint where I want to be!
God bless!
No one knows everything!
Where I worked-----People like that(usually got fired)Just speaking the simple truth as my simple brain sees it guys.
Oh, and whoever can rip this to shreds----I won't even get mad---------------promise!