ammo

[mescalero1]

Now seriously folks, is 1,800 rounds of .22magnum
enough
not enough
too much
keep it serious, please

[Andrew]

Too much for me, but, I don't have a .22Mag.

I'd say that you are about right. You know: "par for the course".

I'm sitting about 1500 rds of .22LR at the moment, but it will get shot soon.

[505stevec]

Too much? Can you ever have too much of a good thing?

[2ndovc]

Not at all. I keep that much in 45-70! Several times that for combat style autos.

I don't have a .22 mag. but I try to keep at Least 5000 .22lr around. Usually more. The way the kids go through the .22s it's hard to keep that much in inventory.

Depends on how much you shoot up your stock.

[Rimfire McNutjob]

Do you have a variety of loads or is this just one type? I've got about that but in several loads from the Federal 50gr to the 33gr Vmax stuff.

[Hobie]

I have that much and was thinking of getting more. My logic might be skewed, but I think rimfire ammo is something you need to get a lot of, plus powder and primers (bullets can be cast, machined, etc.).

[mescalero1]

1,000 of it is CCI maxi mag, the rest is varied, Winchester , Federal
What do you think of that Federal 50 gr. stuff?
I was thinking of leveling off at 2,000
and replacing as I shoot.

[Rimfire McNutjob]

What do you think of that Federal 50 gr. stuff?

My AutoMag II jams on it occasionally but it works well in the 648 and HK-300. Do they even still make it? I bought it by mistake (a whole brick) once but it has a lot of knockdown power that you just don't get from the other stuff. My understanding it that it's really popular with the metallic silhouette guys.

I went and checked and I'm down to about 2300 rounds of various stuff. I had nearly 5000 rounds but my kid has chewed into that over the last year or so with the HK-300. He needs to step back and grab a bolt gun next time we go the range.

I'm with Hobie ... 2000 rounds is comfortable and the price is just going to keep going up so you might as well keep a good stash on-hand. I've got a few boxes marked $3.99 in my pile. Must be from the early 90's.

Do you use it on local predators out there?

[mescalero1]

Yes, we have a lot of nuisance stuff wandering around, I am really glad to hear Paco is going to offer a .22mag model, can't wait to try it.
I like that 50 grain Federal, hits hard.

[brucew44guns]

I think ammo is vital, get a lot of it. Is 105 bricks of 22LR being nuts? Those cost 6.95 and 7.95 for a lot of them, they are pushing 12.00 now I think at Wallys, and I would not be surprised, if Hussien and the Dems rule totally, soon, you might see .22LR's going for 10.00 or more for a box of 50. Remember gas for 21.9?, Look out ammo too. I just got a deal on some 35 Rem Hornady Leverevolutions. 17.00 a box, I bought 10 of them, money in the bank for me. I Now I now have fodder for that 35 Marlin I got from Pete.

[mescalero1]

I am in the process of moving my Phoenix stuff to my N.M. stuff
Anybody know how many guns 1 person can own?
I have never heard of a limitation, has anyone?

[Bronco]

Howdy,
I shoot a 17 HMR at groung squirrels and any time I can get it for less than $10.00 for a box of fifty I try to get a case(2000), if I can afford it. Setting on around 8000 rnds, and it gives me a " you done good feeling" when I see it in the stores for $17+.

John

[mescalero1]

Been thinking about adding a .17
Do you have any experience on skunks with that round?

[meanc]

I've got just a tad bit more than what you stated, and with both my 22mag levers and the Single sixes I plan on buying maybe a brick or two more.

But, if you want an excellent deal on 22mag ammo

You can get 500 PMC Predator 40gr JHP for about $60 from the sportsmans guide.

Here's a link I got from Rimfirecentral. I know the photo says armscor, but alot of people, myself included, have all recieved the PMC Predator. If your order is over $99.00 use discount code SG991 for $10 off your order. They picture Armscore but will send you PMC's!!!
You must use this link:


http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/c ... 34754&pn=1


Have fun.

[AJMD429]

Which would you rather have if times got rough:

Twenty different really cool firearms, each with 100 rounds of ammunition, and maybe 1,000 rounds for the .22LR(s)

- or -

A .22LR and 10,000 rounds.

Now:

Which can you more easily afford? Which will your guests/visitors/kids/grandkids enjoy more?

Not that it has to be an either/or, but with rimfire ammo, I think quantity makes sense. I only have about 20 rounds of .22 Mag, because the only gun I have for it is a spare cylinder for a revolver, and I seldom shoot that. But .22 LR is a rapidly used commodity with four kids who love to shoot; they can shoot a 'brick' of 500 in a short afternoon.

[mescalero1]

AJMD429,
I am afraid if I reveal the amount of .22LR,
men in black will come to my door!

[Ysabel Kid]

Depends on how many guns you have firing a caliber and how frequently you shoot those same guns. I'm like you - if I revealed my stockpile of .22 LR's I'd get an unwelcome visit!

As a rule of thumb I try to have 500 rounds per gun for any caliber I call "major" - those I shoot a lot or those that fit the "if the excement hits the spinning blade" scenario. For the .38 Special, for example, this runs several thousand rounds due to the number of .38's and .357's I have. The .45 Colt, .45 ACP, .44 Magnum, .40 S&W, 9mm, .380 ACP, .30-06, .308 and .223 - along with the .22 LR all fall into this category for me. The .45-70 has recently moved into this category, and I am still working up to these levels with some of these.

For "intermediate calibers" I try to have 100 rounds. I classify these calibers where factory ammunition is still currently produced, but that I don't shoot frequently. This would include rounds like the .25 ACP, .32 ACP, .32 S&W Short, and a whole bunch of other "odds and ends".

The "minors" for me are the really odd-balls, for guns I don't shoot that often, and usually for ammunition that is not commonly available and pretty darn expensive. Things like the 7.7 Japanese, 6.5 Carcano, or the .45-120 Sharps. For these I just try to have on hand at least 20 rounds and build inventory whenever I can do so at a bargain.

I know - I know, I'm compulsively organized. You guys have seen pictures of my reloading and work benches - haven't you figured that out by now?!?

[mescalero1]

Yeah,
but we still like you.

[Ysabel Kid]

awh schucks...

[brucew44guns]

AJMD429,
I am afraid if I reveal the amount of .22LR,
men in black will come to my door!

Is there a certain inventory that invites a visit? I suppose there are anti's losing sleep over that question, wanting to impose some law that help me be "safer".

[Ysabel Kid]

AJMD429,
I am afraid if I reveal the amount of .22LR,
men in black will come to my door!

Is there a certain inventory that invites a visit? I suppose there are anti's losing sleep over that question, wanting to impose some law that help me be "safer".

Unfortunately, the answer is "yes", though I am not aware of any jurisdictions - yet - that have enacted such nonsense. They usually put these forth as "arsenal laws" - defining gun owners who have more than some arbitrarily defined number of guns or rounds of ammunition as having an "arsenal", subject to the limitations or inspections they can get into the law. It has been tried numerous times - and will be again.

Just like with defining semi-automatics as "assault weapons", and lumping in .22's like the 10/22, they often deliberately don't exempt .22 LR ammunition. Thus, when you buy a brick of the stuff, if their laws passed, you'd instantly be in possession of "an arsenal".

Another typical attempt by the left to do an end-run around the Second Amendment. I know I am supposed to turn the other cheek, but I can't - I hate those guys and everything they stand for...

[mescalero1]

This impending move could be tricky, my route takes me precariously close to the border, a truck loaded up with guns & ammo could be perceived as a gun runner.
Although the variation in the collection would preclude that nonsense to anyone with any intellectual capacity.

[El Chivo]

I keep just a few rounds of each out of consideration for neighbors in case of fire. I do prime up as many cases as I can fit in my ammo box, then it's a quick session to weigh, fill, and seat before a trip to the range. I'm finding my eyes bother me if I shoot more than 100 rounds in a day.

I do keep powder on hand, I have about 4 lbs now because I'm experimenting. Hopefully I will get this down to 2 or 3 at the most.

As far as .22, I switched to Remington subsonic and the local Big 5 does not carry bricks. So I only have about 150 rounds right now.

[gamekeeper]

Over on this side of the pond our Nanny State decides how much rifle ammo you can have just in case we should want to start a revolution. We can have as much shotgun ammo as we like as long as its not slugs.
If I lived in the US I would stock pile anything that could not easily be reloaded!.

[ceb]

I've always figured that if things ever got really bad, my .22 ammo and firearms would be really important to me. So I try to keep plenty on hand. How much? Well.....................

[Griff]

I like to keep the majority of my available ammo stored in modular form. Since I own 0 (zero) rimfores, 1,800 would be excessive for me; but not so for other calibers. I don't keep less than 100 rounds for each bullet I use. I load 6 different bullets just for the .45 Colt and probably have another 500 rnds each in modular form. 3 different bullets for the .30-30, 2 for the 7mmMag, 1 for the .30-06, 2 for the .45-70, 1 for the .38Spl (oops - 2, but # 2 is all loaded ammo I got in a trade). The only exception is for the Sharps, but even there I have 100 rnds loaded w/my smokeless load.

I'm a little behind on my reloading for the 20 gauge (all smokeless) and my smokeless 12 gauge. I recently bought about 1,000 once fired Remington RXP once-fired hulls and haven't made a dent in that garbage bag! I mostly use Winch AA hulls for my BP shotshells; both appropriate wads & once-fired hulls are hard to come by. Sure wish Alcan was still around.

[AJMD429]

AJMD429,
I am afraid if I reveal the amount of .22LR,
men in black will come to my door!

Is there a certain inventory that invites a visit? I suppose there are anti's losing sleep over that question, wanting to impose some law that help me be "safer".

Most of the proposed legislation prohibiting "arsenals" lists a 10-gun maximum, and a 1,000 round maximum for loaded ammunition OR components, and no exception for "rimfires."

Of course, the anti's won't go door-to-door to seize said inventories, for obvious safety reasons, as well as PR reasons, but the REAL reason they'll "grandfather" or "register" or "license" first is because THAT will be OK with the vast majority of gun owners. Many don't own over those amounts, and will not object because as long as it doesn't affect them they're OK with it; many of those who DO own such amounts will just shrug it off and get the "license" or whatever so they can hold on to the illusion of freedom a bit longer.

Of course, the seizure of firearms isn't as important to anti's as the creation of a "list" of their enemies, so they can go after such individuals one at a time, fabricating "charges" if necessary. If they are creative enough (drugs, child porn, or some other thing we rednecks consider truly reprehensable) we won't even stand by our gun-owning peers, because we'll be afraid to be "tainted" in case the charges are really true. Like most groups, 80% of the work is done by 20% of the individuals (look at corporations, taxes, families, etc.), and in the case of gun owners, I'd say 99% of the "pro-gun" lobbying effort is by 1% of gun owners, so by "carving out" that mere 1% (most of whom will be higher-than-average in ownership due to a more intense interest and likely higher income which afforded them the spare time to lobby), the anti's can effective NEUTRALIZE the entire "pro-gun" movement with little effort.

I hate to whizz on the campfire by bringing this up, but it's true, it's happened in virtually every other nation in the world (and they keep trying to warn us but gun owners as a group are still unwilling to become politically active).

Is there hope? Yes - there's ALWAYS hope (for one thing, the truth, and most of us would say, "God," is on our side, both of which should count for something).

Strategies: (nope, not "stockpiling," although there's nothing wrong with it other than it means you're on "the list").

1. Stir up your shooting/hunting buddies - motivate them. SHAME them if you have to. If they say they "don't have the time" to be politically active, then tell them you don't expect to see them at the range or deer camp then, because that FUN time is less important than doing their job as a citizen. If they say they "don't have the money" to be politically active, then tell them they should sell one of their guns and donate the money to Gun Owners of America, JPFO, KeepAndBearArms.com, or the NRA-ILA. Better yet, sell FOUR guns; one for each of those groups. If they say they don't know HOW to be politically active, sit them down and go to gunowners.org, and walk them through some letters to their legislators. Bookmark the pages for them. Help them write letters in their own words, rather than using the "form" letters. Help them do it the old fashioned way with pen and paper. Heck - write letters FOR them if you have to, just make them sign them and at least pay postage.

2. Refuse to do business with anti-gun individuals or corporations. This should be a given. They're either stupid, or dishonest, or they wouldn't be anti-gun, so why would you WANT to do business with them? Do business with their competitors, and inform them THEY earned your business by NOT being anti-gun (pro-rape, pro-murder, pro-genocide).

3. Refuse to do business with individuals or corporations which aren't ACTIVELY PRO-GUN. Tell them why. Get them to EARN your business. Do business with their competitors, and inform them THEY earned your business by NOT being anti-gun (pro-rape, pro-murder, pro-genocide).

4. THIS ONE IS FUN! Take your kids, grandkids, neices, nephews, in-laws, and neighbors shooting. Pick guns that they will feel COMFORTABLE with - not just your flashiest and loudest, unless they really want that. Get them so interested in shooting they want to do more of it. THEN (and this part is important) point out to them how all those gun laws they never thought were a big deal are not only going to prohibit SPORT shooting and HUNTING down the road, but that RIGHT NOW they are toppling the last barrier towards our nation becoming a POLICE STATE (if it isn't really one already) - the widespread, anonymous, ownership of significantly effective firearms. "Militia" if you will.

Each one of those words signifies something being elminated:

"Widespread" - elminated due to the many minor regulatory hurdles which impede newbies and the less-dedicated from enjoying the hobby aspect of gun ownership.

"anonymous" - registration is already complete; keep in mind it is gun OWNERS, not guns, which they want a list of. Having more than a couple registered makes any other privately purchased guns you own moot; once you're targeted as a bad guy for the ones they KNOW you own, the others will just rust away while you're in jail on some trumped up charge. Not many people are going to do the "cold dead fingers" thing when it comes down to it, and if they do, the news media will just portray them as some psychopath "gun nut" gone berserk.

"significantly effective" - the "militia" guns are being eliminated first (NOT the more often criminally used ones!) which reveals the true motives aren't "fighting crime" or anything of the sort.


Now I'll get back off the soapbox - I've got to go weed the tomatos. (...actually, I have to FIND them under the mud from our recent flood - think they survived 12" of water for 24 hours?)

[GANJIRO]

I'm from the school of thought that you can't have too much ammo.

I recall a couple years back a local criminal was using his grandmother's garage (car port) as an illegal chop shop. When the police raided this place they also found a "STOCKPILE" of 300 rounds of .22 ammunition.
22RF or .223 300 rounds ain't no stockpile to this old boy.

[Jayhawker]

Each state has its own definition of what constitutes an armory and the limitations on them. I just did a search for that topic for the state of California, but came up empty although I know I've read it before. I don't know if there is any way for the authorities to know what you may have stockpiled unless they come to your door for some other reason and stumble upon your wealth. There are some states that do record ammunition purchase transactions though. I suppose that they could cross-reference data and look for indications of stockpiling but that would be man-hour intensive. Just spread your purchases around, buy often, even while on vacation, and you should be fine. Until they come knocking......

[Old Time Hunter]

Nice read AJMD...scares the heck out of me!

Thanks to OI, I've found out that my late Grandfather (ex-LEO) was guilty of illegally manufacturing his own BP...never knew it was wrong to have urinated compost (after as year or so, ground up it is saltpeter) facilities behind the barn. Or molting the sulfer out of the mineral rock, or even is charcoal grinder in the shed. Wow, was my Grandfather a renegade or what! Then again, I'd wager most in his parts probably did the same thing.

Back to the stock piles...seems I never have enough .30 cal carbine ammo. Every time I see an opportunity for a bulk buy, I do. Have not inventoried it yet, but I'd guess it has to be approaching 10k by now. Heck got a 500 round can for $2 at a rummage sale not to long ago, bought five cans for $20 bucks at another. Then again it ain't noth'n to shoot up a couple of hundred per person on a weekend.

[meanc]

Griff wrote:

"Since I own 0 (zero) rimfires"

HERESY !!!!!


Somebody get this man something in a 22lr !!!!!