Third range trip Winchester 73

Welcome to the Leverguns.Com Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here ... politely.

Moderators: AmBraCol, Hobie

Forum rules
Welcome to the Leverguns.Com General Discussions Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here other than politics... politely.

Please post political post in the new Politics forum.
Post Reply
User avatar
Marc
Levergunner 3.0
Posts: 641
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:25 pm
Location: Ventura, CA

Third range trip Winchester 73

Post by Marc »

I am married to a smart woman! When I showed her this group she said, "You're never going to sell that rifle are you?"
Image

When I bought it I told her that it is an investment. I was just going to keep it a few years and sell it for profit. She has my number!

Anyway, the top hole is the fouler. This rifle, a Winchester 73 made in 1916, needs a fouler. The next five went into that cluster at the center. Those five went into 3/4" center to center at 50 yards. The bullet is a Keith style semi-wadcutter crimped in the crimping groove. They are to long to feed from the magazine. The bullets cast small from wheelweight so I bumped them up in a .431" die which is a little to large. Some chamber with resistance. A .430" die would be good but my .430" die is really .429". It looks like it shoots well enough to invest in a proper mold and to hone the die out. This rifle shoots far better than I dared to hope!

I also tried 10.8 grains 2400 with the same bullet. Group size was double and the bore was full of unburned powder.

I would like to get a set trigger for it. The trigger isn't horrible but it has a lot of creep and it is a little heavy for off hand shooting. Those are probably expensive if you can find them. In the meantime I am going to load ammo for our club levergun silhouette match on Saturday. I think this rifle is very competitive. Now if I can just tighten the nut behind the butt!
Image
My "HB" (Hunting Buddy) She's a good cook too!
Ben_Rumson
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 2569
Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:51 pm

Re: Third range trip Winchester 73

Post by Ben_Rumson »

Wow.. Nice group...nice shooting...
"IT IS MY OPINION, AND I AM CORRECT SO DON'T ARGUE, THE 99 SAVAGE IS THE FINEST RIFLE EVER MADE IN AMERICA."
WIL TERRY
User avatar
Ysabel Kid
Moderator
Posts: 28848
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:10 pm
Location: South Carolina, USA
Contact:

Re: Third range trip Winchester 73

Post by Ysabel Kid »

Nice group - and a smart woman!!! :wink:
Image
rjohns94
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 10820
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:02 pm
Location: York, PA

Re: Third range trip Winchester 73

Post by rjohns94 »

well done indeed.
Mike Johnson,

"Only those who will risk going too far, can possibly find out how far one can go." T.S. Eliot
User avatar
Mike D.
***Rock Star***
Posts: 4234
Joined: Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:56 pm
Location: Northern CA

Re: Third range trip Winchester 73

Post by Mike D. »

Marc, you shot a group to be proud of, that's for certain. Your 10.8/2400 is a little on the stout side for a '73, isn't it? Try 8/Unique, my favorite 44 WCF load for both SAs and '73s
"Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale, and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled or hanged"....President Abraham Lincoln
User avatar
KirkD
Desktop Artiste
Posts: 4406
Joined: Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:52 am
Location: Central Ontario, Canada
Contact:

Re: Third range trip Winchester 73

Post by KirkD »

Marc, that is nice shooting.
Kirk: An old geezer who loves the smell of freshly turned earth, old cedar rail fences, wood smoke, a crackling fireplace on a snowy evening, pristine wilderness lakes, the scent of
cedars and a magnificent Whitetail buck framed in the semi-buckhorn sights of a 120-year old Winchester.
Blog: https://www.kirkdurston.com/
User avatar
Marc
Levergunner 3.0
Posts: 641
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:25 pm
Location: Ventura, CA

Re: Third range trip Winchester 73

Post by Marc »

Thanks guys! The sights on that rifle work for me. But what I am really happy about is how well the rifle shoots the cast bullets. Rough red bore and all.

Mike, the 2400 load was weaker than the Unique load. It had several feet more drop at 200 meters. 8 Unique is what I used with 205 grain bullets. These are 256 grains so I lightened the charge.
Image
My "HB" (Hunting Buddy) She's a good cook too!
User avatar
kimwcook
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 7978
Joined: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:01 pm
Location: Soap Lake, WA., U.S.A.

Re: Third range trip Winchester 73

Post by kimwcook »

Nice shooting. I wouldn't get rid of that '73 either.
Old Law Dawg
Jaguarundi
Senior Levergunner
Posts: 1804
Joined: Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:27 am
Location: Wiregrass Area,Alabama

Re: Third range trip Winchester 73

Post by Jaguarundi »

Most excellent group in that '73.Yup keep the rifle and wife :D !
"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."
User avatar
Marc
Levergunner 3.0
Posts: 641
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:25 pm
Location: Ventura, CA

Re: Third range trip Winchester 73

Post by Marc »

I took the 73 to shoot silhouette this morning. They only had small bore targets up and the big bore targets were not set. I did succeed in badgering them into putting the swingers out. I had ammo so a couple of us shot the course using the swingers. Since it wasn't a real match I didn't bother with sighters and just shot the 40 rounds. I got 9 chickens and only 4 pigs. I outsmarted myself on the missed chicken. I was hitting them high on the back so I tried holding a little lower and shot under it. Decided that was a bad idea and went back to hitting them in the top. Trying to hold center pig did not work because I blackened the front sight and it got lost on the black targets. I figured out later I needed the rear sight in one higher notch and then I could hold 6 o'clock on the pig. Turkeys were mine! I got 7 turkeys in spite of throwing one shot away. Perfect 6 o'clock hold with the rear sight in the top notch. I never did figure out a good sight picture on rams. I ran out of elevation on the rear sight and had to hold way above the ram. Managed to hit it 2 or 3 times.

So anyway it was fun and the old rifle is certainly up to the task. One thing I did not find out is whether this load would knock the rams over. Maybe next time if we have a real match.
Image
My "HB" (Hunting Buddy) She's a good cook too!
User avatar
Griff
Posting leader...
Posts: 21344
Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:56 pm
Location: OH MY GAWD they installed a STOP light!!!

Re: Third range trip Winchester 73

Post by Griff »

Great target. Careful, you might scare off enough competition to hold an official match with practice like that! :P
Griff,
SASS/CMSA #93
NRA Patron
GUSA #93

There is a fine line between hobby & obsession!
AND... I'm over it!!
No I ain't ready, but let's do it anyway!
User avatar
Marc
Levergunner 3.0
Posts: 641
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:25 pm
Location: Ventura, CA

Re: Third range trip Winchester 73

Post by Marc »

No danger of scaring the competition with a score of 22 or 23! I will scare them when I get my sight settings worked out.

I just can't get over how well this rifle shoots given the condition of the bore. I don't know what it is. Maybe the slow twist makes it more forgiving and I am sure the low velocities help. Whatever it is it works. I guess they knew what they were doing when they developed these rifles. I am also impressed by the quality of this rifle. Wood to metal fit is very tight. It makes our standard factory offerings of today look pathetic.
Image
My "HB" (Hunting Buddy) She's a good cook too!
User avatar
Old Time Hunter
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 2388
Joined: Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:18 am
Location: Wisconsin

Re: Third range trip Winchester 73

Post by Old Time Hunter »

Nice shooting! You should put that on a Ranch Dog Postal target and send it in to Micheal. Us Winny shooters need all the help we can get to beat those Marlin dudes.
User avatar
Marc
Levergunner 3.0
Posts: 641
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:25 pm
Location: Ventura, CA

Re: Third range trip Winchester 73

Post by Marc »

Maybe I will try the RD match. Weigh and sort the bullets and I think it would shoot a one hole group at 50 yards.
Image
My "HB" (Hunting Buddy) She's a good cook too!
Post Reply