POLITICS - CA Legislator Logic re: Elk

El Chivo · Post by **El Chivo** » Sun May 04, 2008 9:52 pm

on another post the California legislators mindset came up, it reminded me of something I saw in American Hunter (don't have it handy).

One of the senators is working on an order to exterminate the entire elk population of a coastal island (Santa Cruz Island?) because they don't want the herd to be hunted every year - it's too cruel.

The herd has to be culled one way or another, and I believe they can't stop the hunting for some reason, so they are just going to eliminate hunting by killing all the elk. Because it's an island, the herd won't come back.

Makes liberal sense, don't it?

Does anybody know more about this?

Post by **Hobie** » Sun May 04, 2008 9:56 pm

I posted on this way back when. The stated reason is different, the end result is the same. Don't know if they've actually started yet.

Jaguarundi · Post by **Jaguarundi** » Sun May 04, 2008 10:03 pm

Yup a too liberal sense.

Post by **Old Savage** » Sun May 04, 2008 11:15 pm

Which Cal Dem idiot came up with that one?

gary rice · Post by **gary rice** » Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm

Old Savage wrote:Which Cal Dem idiot came up with that one?

probably de leon, the idiot that comes up with almost all the gun law trash.

Post by **Hobie** » Mon May 05, 2008 7:15 am

It was on Santa Rosa Island, is this a SECOND incident? I guess that issue will continue to be fought over. Of course the NPS has their view as well. Diane Feinstein is willing to destroy all these animals rather than relocate them. I wonder how PETA feels about that. Oh, yeah, PETA kills more of their rescues than any other group. Never mind. Of course, they wouldn't want servicepeople to hunt there either. I guess hunting is too violent for them (yeah, that's sarcastic).

t.r. · Post by **t.r.** » Mon May 05, 2008 8:01 am

Pt. Reyes Nat'l Seashore, California is already under the gun. This area was formally a privately owned ranch with legally introduced exotics. Even though the ranch was not for sale, Feds "bought it" and ousted the owner and ceased hunting. For many years, Park Rangers shot "excess" deer at night to control the poplution of fallow deer and axis deer. In late 1970's all shooting was halted. Predictably, the deer population rose at expontential rate.

Right now, as I type this: A cull hunting outfit from New Zealand is paid to shoot 1,000 animals. A darting program to produce non-ovulating does begins in September. The total cost is estimated to be $1.6 million. California Gov't has raised protests but the FEDS are in control, same as Channel Islands.

This is a sad day for the future of hunting by common sportsman.
TR

PS Barbara Boxer is a US Senator (FED). The Channel Islands are FED.

kimwcook · Post by **kimwcook** » Mon May 05, 2008 10:22 am

It's just a sad state of affairs when this happens and continues to happen. How long will it take until they, the Fed's, realize they can get further with minimal fuss by allowing people to hunt these animals.

scr83jp · Post by **scr83jp** » Mon May 05, 2008 11:52 am

Old Savage wrote:Which Cal Dem idiot came up with that one?

BOXER , FEINSTEIN & the agency that messes up everything they get involved with US Park Service.The first comment I heard from my wildlife mgt professor in my first intro class in wildlife mgt was Everything The US Park Service Touches They Mess Up & it's still true today: Mojave National Preserve removal of all of the cattle water sources wells,windmills & adversely effected all flora and fauna!