Hornady 25-35 110 gr FTX

[elmo123]

Graf's Reloading has the new Hornady 25-35 loads in stock if anyone is interested. I ordered 2 boxes to see how it shoots. The bullets aren't in stock yet.


http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/pro ... ctId/73887

Merry Christmas to all

[model55]

Waiting for the components to become available, see the brass listed both at Graf's and Midway but not in stock yet.It will be nice to see what others think of the new load.

[Blaine]

Are there new 25-35 shooters on the market?

[elmo123]

There must be enough of them to warrant Horandy to make these loads and components available. USRA made some new 25-35's before closing up shop years ago.

[Merle]

My only 25-35 is a TC Contender Super 14. I wonder how these would work at the reduced velocity?

[winchester1886]

I know I would love to own an old 94 in 25-35, on my wish list for sure, and a late model 86 in 40-82, that would be all I would need.

[Sixgun]

I know I would love to own an old 94 in 25-35, on my wish list for sure, and a late model 86 in 40-82, that would be all I would need.

I can tell just by what you wrote that you are young and probably in your twenties. I said those same things back when I was 18 and after owning and playing with one model in one caliber, another one comes up that "this next one is all that I need". Over 40 years later and 60 die sets, I'm still not done.

Another thing...I've shot thousands of rounds out of various 25-35's and if someone comes up with something better than a 117 R.N Hornady with a dose of 4198 or 3031, I'd like to hear it. The cartridge is what it is and no load is going to make it something great. Your better off buying dies, bullets, and brass and loading your own instead of plunking down $50 for two boxes of factory ammo. --6

[model55]

I bought a couple boxes of Winchester 25-35 at the Commiepornia price of $ 42.00 IIRC then lucked into brass on a trip to Montana.I think that with the lighter new bullets and new powders there is small room to improve especially with a single shot but that is not the norm.Would definitely like to try for a deer and try 3031.

[Shrapnel]

I know I would love to own an old 94 in 25-35, on my wish list for sure, and a late model 86 in 40-82, that would be all I would need.

The 25-35 is more than adequate as a killer, it is worth the hunt to find one. As for the 40-82, unless you are wanting to load black powder to it's full potential, you are much better off with a 40-65.

[model55]

I have to stop drooling on Sixgun's BAR pic! Think Hornady's 90 grain GMX might be worth checking out!

[Sixgun]

[quote="model55"]I have to stop drooling on Sixgun's BAR pic! Think Hornady's 90 grain GMX might be worth checking out![/quote



Relax Model 55.....: ...let me explain something to a youngster.......I've been there and done that.....no matter what you play with and what your thinking about concerning your next purchase, it becomes old real quick...quicker as the years go on. No brag, but I've played with about everything Winchester, Colt, Remington, Ruger, S and W, and Marlin in most of the calibers ever produced, shooting the 1873's to the 94's and everything in between. I got bored and started with WW two guns and ya know something?.....there is not a whole lot of difference between any of them.

The one goood thing I can say about collecting and shooting the old guns is that it's FREE...yes...FREE...educated yourself, buy good guns with condition , take care of them, shoot em, play with em, show em off, then sell em for more than what you paid for them.

I'm sixty two and last year I HAD to have a BAR...played with and still own WW two bolt guns, NM Garands, carbines, etc....so .....I ordered myself a BAR and have shot a couple of tho. out of it....love it......shoots like a scoped bolt gun......on and on and on.....thinking.........Ok...what's next? .......yea baby........a flame thrower!....... .....wait......a 40 mm pom pom gun.....wait......a quad 50!......

It never ends.....such a great country we live in to enjoy this stuff.....and to think....that phucking Hillary wants to take it all away....lol.l. Stay cool bros----6

[Bill in Oregon]

That FTX ought to be a doozy on antelope. When they are available, I will try some in the .25-35 Tomcat.

[william iorg]

How goes the stocktaking.

[windy]

thanks largely to the 'net, I've got lotsa brass and bullets fer my old (1926) 26" oct-barreled 25/35--75gr fn', the old rem 87gr rn's, a few 100gr nosler ptn rn's, and, of course, the old 117gr wins, rems and hornadys. I've dug up factory-loaded winchester in three different box-types, remington and peters, and tried them all, reloaded with one-up-the-spout, one in the tube notions with all the .257 spitzers, given every powder some consideration--and i'm still not tired of range time with the old '94. probably because of its tang sight and the set triggers, it shoots everything well, and most of it better than I can see to shoot it, and the total lack of felt recoil keeps my arthritis happy. no way i'd let a whole new factory load and new special-designated bullet get by me! my first two boxes from graf's arrive next week and two boxes of projectiles when they come available, and i'd love to hear any success stories on loads using lever-ev powder with 90gr, 100gr, or other 110gr bullets that the hodg-site didn't bother to cover. I've had poor luck with the old r-p brass--lotsa case-head separations--so i'm interested in trying the hornady brass when I find some, but I've got winnie-stamped brass, old and new (anybody know where it's being made these days?) coming out my ears. even with new brass, I've had sticky extraction with most of the top-end load data, so I know my old-timer isn't gonna beat my roberts for speed, but I've noticed that factory stuff sometimes beats my best reloads in some calibers in that regard, so i'd be perfectly happy to use the new hornady for hunting--just not necessarily for the other 99% of my 25-ing. ain't no way the 25/35's gonna die, not even in this, its third century.
mind yer topknots!
windy

[Bill in Oregon]

William, George at Treebone cut my stocks. I just need to get them to my fitter in Redmond as soon as I can travel.

[windy]

OK, it's here; shot some and it feeds, shoots and extracts flawlessly. Groups as good as or better than anything I've found or reloaded. I know some reload data matches the speed the factory advertises, even with the old 117gr roundnoses, but I've always had extraction problems with those. Not with these LeverEvolution 25-35's. I'll be buying more as time goes by, but I'm certainly going to have some come deer season. Happy new year, guys!
windy

[Thunder50]

Hey Sixgun!!! Word of advice, keep a spare firing pin for that BAR. I have heard they have a habit of breaking. You might be able to pick up a standard BAR firing pin and with a bit of grinding, make one for yours. They are a bit different.

We have a Korean War Vet in our gun club that still is a pretty good shot. He told a few stories and was talking about the BAR was one of his favorite guns during that time.

Surprised him one day with my OOW BAR for him to shoot. He took a look at it and you could see he eyes water up a bit as he handled it. He put a few rounds down range (hit our 300yd gong with it). Had a big smile on his face. Said he hadn't shot one since Korea.


Sorry to digress from the post!!

[william iorg]

OK, it's here; shot some and it feeds, shoots and extracts flawlessly. Groups as good as or better than anything I've found or reloaded. I know some reload data matches the speed the factory advertises, even with the old 117gr roundnoses, but I've always had extraction problems with those. Not with these LeverEvolution 25-35's. I'll be buying more as time goes by, but I'm certainly going to have some come deer season. Happy new year, guys!
windy

How old is your rifle?
The reason I ask is my Winchester model 94AE does not seem to have any extraction problems as the pressure increases.
My 24” TC Contender barrel on the other hand would exhibit sticky extraction with current Winchester factory ammunition. I could not overcome sticky extraction with this barrel and I finally gave up and reamed it for the Ackley Improved cartridge. While off-topic the Impromed chamber has never exhibited sticky extraction.
The Winchester factory loads are not very high pressure with the 117-grain load giving me 2,125 fps from the 20” barrel Winchester and 2,245 fps from the 24” TC barrel.
This is as good a place as any to speak of the old load data.
With 100—grain bullets Phil Sharpe listed 29.0 gains of IMR 4320 giving 2,460 fps. I have assumed this was a 26” but may well be wrong.
The Ideal Handbook #55 circa 1948 lists the same load and velocity.
In my 20” barrel model 93AE I got 2,531 fps and in the 24” barrel TC I got 2,569 fps. This using the Speer 100-grain JHP bullet intended as a varmint bullet in the .257 Weatherby but has proven to be an excellent deer bullet in the .250 Savage and .25-35 for me.
With the 117-grain bullets Phil Sharpe listed 28.0 grains of IMR 4320 (DuPont of course) as giving 2,295 fps.
The #35 Ideal Handbook lists the same load and velocity.
In my 20” Winchester 27.0 grains of IMR 4320 pushed the Hornady JRN bullet 2,211 fps with no extraction problems and excellent accuracy.
In the 20” barrel Winchester the 117-grain Hornady bullet seemed to perform well using Alliant Reloder 10X, Reloder 15 and Winchester 748. 27.0 to 28.0 grains of these three powders will push this bullet above 2,330 fps with satisfying accuracy.
 
If you are lucky enough to have a 24” barrel Hodgdon 335 will easily touch 2,600 fps with the 117-grain Hornady bullet. In the TC the extractor would not break the cases loose but when I rodded them out there was no indication of sticky extraction.
 
Longer barrels are certainly a plus but the 20” barrel will push the 100-grain bullets fast enough to make you smile. You can nudge the 100-grain bullets up against 2,600 fps with no difficulty using several different powders.
Hornady is bringing us back to the performance of the 1920’s and that not all bad.

[3leggedturtle]

Thanks was just going to ask if you used H335 with 87, 100 or 117gr bullets. Todd3/leg

[elmo123]

I shot some of the new FTX's yesterday and they seem a little hotter than my 117 loads with H335 but extraction was fine. They were just as accurate as the 117 loads. I did however have some 87 grain Remington sp bullets explode when they struck the paper target which has never happened before.

[M. M. Wright]

I'm OK with the load you see listed on the target. As you can see it's not fast but I doubt a whitetail could tell the difference.

[elmo123]

That's about the size of the groups I am getting with H335 and iron sights.

[windy]

slim, my 25-35 has a 1926 serial number, but it had a damaged 38-55 barrel on it that I changed out for a 26" 25-35 I got off ebay. don't know how old the barrel was; it was dark in the grooves (still is) but had lotsa crisp rifling. shoots as well as I can, or better; the rifle has the double set trigger, which helps, and what i'd guess was an original special-order marbles tang sight--also useful. the chamber isn't perfect, but doesn't have any complications that should cause case-head separation or particular stickiness. I was regularly getting 2" to 2-1/2" groups at 100 yards with factory white-box and gray-box 117's before my eyes started changing, with a little bit of creep when the barrel warmed, although it has the deluxe forearm instead of a barrel band. I tried and couldn't extract the cases with the old 3031 load or the top-end loads with the newer powders; could be something to do with the barrel swap. I don't challenge my cases--in fact, I neck-size mostly, with a lee loader, and trim 'em fairly often, but I've had to dig out several separated cases; mostly old remingtons, but once or twice a winnie. I generally get them out by spraying in quite a bit of wd-40, then starting a too-large brush (the pull-through kind) and then pulling it out backward with the bristles still scrunched to the rear, to catch the lip of the case. I don't have a dependable chrono so I don't know what speeds I was getting out of my loads, or with the new stuff. still experimenting, but i'm expecting a new eye-glass prescription in a couple of weeks, and maybe cataract surgery, so i'll finish checking for accuracy when I can see again--this fuzziness is driving me nuts! (not a drive, just a short putt, according to my old golf partner).
windy

[saw whet owl]

What's next from Hornady, along these lines?

Perhaps a 115/120 grain .312" FTX for the 32-20? It could serve as a replacement for both the long-discontinued Remington 100 grain .312 softpoint and the recently discontinued (or so I read in another forum) Speer 115 grain .312 Gold Dot.

[1historian]

The first centerfire rifle I considered buying was an old 25-35 that was on the used rack...at Sears!

[william iorg]

slim, my 25-35 has a 1926 serial number, but it had a damaged 38-55 barrel on it that I changed out for a 26" 25-35 I got off ebay.
windy

I'll bet this is a fun rifle. I have cracked a few cases at the pressure ring but have not broken any. I make quite a few cases from ..30-30 but that should not make a difference. The chamber on my new rifles is probably smoother.
Are you able to push the cases out with a brush? .30-30AI. And .25-35AI. Cases push right out when they break.
I extract broken Improved Hornets as you do. A broken .218 Bee can challenge you.