Another new old western
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Another new old western
The wife wanted to go see the new Jason Bourne movie so off we went tonight. We got there a little extra early so we got to see more previews of coming attractions than normal. One that really stood out was a remake of THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN.
It's going to have Denzel Washington and Vincent D'Onofrio that looked familiar. The rest went by so fast I couldn't tell who they were. From the out takes they showed it looked like they were a bunch of kids playing cowboys and indians, all having a good time. I guess I better get over all this remaking of classic movies.
It's going to have Denzel Washington and Vincent D'Onofrio that looked familiar. The rest went by so fast I couldn't tell who they were. From the out takes they showed it looked like they were a bunch of kids playing cowboys and indians, all having a good time. I guess I better get over all this remaking of classic movies.
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Re: Another new old western
Once again Hollywood showing it's lack or imagination.
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Saw the trailer, I'm not impressed!
The original had a great cast, great music and no computer generated effects.
The original had a great cast, great music and no computer generated effects.
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So far as I am concerned no matter how "good" the new version is, it will never be as good as the original. Can't beat the casting of the original.
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+10RustyJr wrote:So far as I am concerned no matter how "good" the new version is, it will never be as good as the original. Can't beat the casting of the original.
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O Hell if that's all that is holding things up I'll drive the rig. One of the best lines out of any movie, one of the greatest westerns ever made, and probably the best theme music out of any movie, if you can't see a cowboy on a horse in your mind when that music is playing. I feel sorry for you, and a great line up of great actors.
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I actually enjoy the remakes more than the originals... it they're done "right"... actors and scenery are two of the very minor issues between the original film and a remake. However, generally speaking and when done "right", the remakes have more authentic, or period appropriate gear and costuming. CW films or Custer "era" films with Winchester '92s does more to ruin the ambiance of a film that even some foopahs in sets and costuming can manage.
And really, since the 1960 version of "The Magnificent Seven" was really just a remake of "The Seven Samauri", does it really matter? ... YMMV
I sorta view most remakes, if not a spoof (& maybe even then), as a form of homage to the original.
Actually, my question is: How was the Jason Bourne sequel?
And really, since the 1960 version of "The Magnificent Seven" was really just a remake of "The Seven Samauri", does it really matter? ... YMMV
I sorta view most remakes, if not a spoof (& maybe even then), as a form of homage to the original.
Actually, my question is: How was the Jason Bourne sequel?
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Re: Another new old western
Griff wrote:I actually enjoy the remakes more than the originals... it they're done "right"... actors and scenery are two of the very minor issues between the original film and a remake. However, generally speaking and when done "right", the remakes have more authentic, or period appropriate gear and costuming. CW films or Custer "era" films with Winchester '92s does more to ruin the ambiance of a film that even some foopahs in sets and costuming can manage.
And really, since the 1960 version of "The Magnificent Seven" was really just a remake of "The Seven Samauri", does it really matter? ... YMMV
I sorta view most remakes, if not a spoof (& maybe even then), as a form of homage to the original.
Actually, my question is: How was the Jason Bourne sequel?
Agreed. When done right they are usually just as good or better. I really enjoy movies like True Grit. While it was nearly word for word the same......the clothing and guns used were much better and really made the movie for me. Im a John Wayne fan for sure but I feel that Rooster was much more believable in the remake.
Absolutely hated the new Lone Ranger though. As fake as the originals are I still love those but hated the CG effects in the new one such as the train sliding off the tracks and whatever else. Hated that the Lone Ranger was pretty much an idiot. Just a horrible movie all the way around.
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I viewed it...the second time....as a Johnny Depp comedy. It's pretty good that way. It sure ain't the Lone Ranger.... (The "HOT" leading lady made up for some other detractions.Rube Burrows wrote:Griff wrote:I actually enjoy the remakes more than the originals... it they're done "right"... actors and scenery are two of the very minor issues between the original film and a remake. However, generally speaking and when done "right", the remakes have more authentic, or period appropriate gear and costuming. CW films or Custer "era" films with Winchester '92s does more to ruin the ambiance of a film that even some foopahs in sets and costuming can manage.
And really, since the 1960 version of "The Magnificent Seven" was really just a remake of "The Seven Samauri", does it really matter? ... YMMV
I sorta view most remakes, if not a spoof (& maybe even then), as a form of homage to the original.
Actually, my question is: How was the Jason Bourne sequel?
Agreed. When done right they are usually just as good or better. I really enjoy movies like True Grit. While it was nearly word for word the same......the clothing and guns used were much better and really made the movie for me. Im a John Wayne fan for sure but I feel that Rooster was much more believable in the remake.
Absolutely hated the new Lone Ranger though. As fake as the originals are I still love those but hated the CG effects in the new one such as the train sliding off the tracks and whatever else. Hated that the Lone Ranger was pretty much an idiot. Just a horrible movie all the way around.
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Re: Another new old western
About the only recent non remake western was Hateful Eight.
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Re: Another new old western
Yes, Toshiro Mifune was great!RustyJr wrote:So far as I am concerned no matter how "good" the new version is, it will never be as good as the original. Can't beat the casting of the original.
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Griff, Bourne was pretty good, maybe not quite as good as some of the others. My wife is the Bourne fan. I just went because she wanted to. The level of suspense and tension wasn't as high as the other 3 and she has them all on DVD. I guess it was better than watching NCIS reruns on TV.
I got to thinking about the original Magnificent 7 being a remake of the 7 Samurais. The thought actually came after the initial hmm moment. Just for kicks I guess I need to go watch the 7 Saumurais I don't think I've ever watched it from start to finish.
I got to thinking about the original Magnificent 7 being a remake of the 7 Samurais. The thought actually came after the initial hmm moment. Just for kicks I guess I need to go watch the 7 Saumurais I don't think I've ever watched it from start to finish.
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jeepnik wrote:About the only recent non remake western was Hateful Eight.
And that was such a disgusting filthy tasteless piece of trash I shut it down about a third of the way through. In my 71 years I have never seen such a worthless disgusting tasteless offensive piece of trash as that movie and I have watched a lot of poor movies in my life. I'm only sorry that I can't tell you how I really feel about it on this board!
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Looks like Chris Pratt (Guardians of the Galaxy and Jurassic World) is playing the role played by Steve McQueen. He's a good actor. So is Denzel. Hopefully it isn't messed up. The more good westerns that are made, even remakes, the more likely we are to see good new original ones.
I won't watch a "Bourne" movie - or anything else with Matt Damon in it. Anti-gun twit making money off pretending to be a guy running around with a gun.
I won't watch a "Bourne" movie - or anything else with Matt Damon in it. Anti-gun twit making money off pretending to be a guy running around with a gun.
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The weakest part of the whole of the new "True Grit" other than possibly the scene involving the dead man's teeth Was Damon's presence. I think I might have liked it better if they had gotten Glenn Campbell to reprise his role.Ysabel Kid wrote:Looks like Chris Pratt (Guardians of the Galaxy and Jurassic World) is playing the role played by Steve McQueen. He's a good actor. So is Denzel. Hopefully it isn't messed up. The more good westerns that are made, even remakes, the more likely we are to see good new original ones.
I'm with you all the way on that. There have been some real good remakes and some excellent new westerns in the recent past, just nowhere near enough.
I won't watch a "Bourne" movie - or anything else with Matt Damon in it. Anti-gun twit making money off pretending to be a guy running around with a gun.
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I didn't comment on the quality only that it is the only thing recent that isn't a remake.Hawkeye2 wrote:jeepnik wrote:About the only recent non remake western was Hateful Eight.
And that was such a disgusting filthy tasteless piece of trash I shut it down about a third of the way through. In my 71 years I have never seen such a worthless disgusting tasteless offensive piece of trash as that movie and I have watched a lot of poor movies in my life. I'm only sorry that I can't tell you how I really feel about it on this board!
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"Go low, go slow and preferably in the dark" The old Sarge (he was maybe 24.
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"Every man should have at least one good rifle and know how to use it" Dad
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"Freedom is never more that a generation from extinction" Ronald Reagan
"Every man should have at least one good rifle and know how to use it" Dad
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I didn't comment on the quality only that it is the only thing recent that isn't a remake.[/quote]
Jeepnik I hope you didn't take my rant as directed toward you as it wasn't though I now can see how it might have been taken that way. I used your quote to reference the movie and that probably was a mistake on my part. Yes it is the only recent western with an original story line in some time and I'm afraid that's all I can say that's in any way positive about the flick.
Jeepnik I hope you didn't take my rant as directed toward you as it wasn't though I now can see how it might have been taken that way. I used your quote to reference the movie and that probably was a mistake on my part. Yes it is the only recent western with an original story line in some time and I'm afraid that's all I can say that's in any way positive about the flick.
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Jeepnik I hope you didn't take my rant as directed toward you as it wasn't though I now can see how it might have been taken that way. I used your quote to reference the movie and that probably was a mistake on my part. Yes it is the only recent western with an original story line in some time and I'm afraid that's all I can say that's in any way positive about the flick.[/quote]Hawkeye2 wrote:I didn't comment on the quality only that it is the only thing recent that isn't a remake.
No offense taken whatsoever. I haven't even watched it, so you saved me the time. Note, even though it was fairly recent I didn't include Revenant as original. Though a poorly told story (the true story is much more impressive but wouldn't have filmed as well) it has been told in film before.
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"Every man should have at least one good rifle and know how to use it" Dad
"Go low, go slow and preferably in the dark" The old Sarge (he was maybe 24.
"Freedom is never more that a generation from extinction" Ronald Reagan
"Every man should have at least one good rifle and know how to use it" Dad