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Thanks Malamute, I've seen guys using those type of slings at 3-Gun matches... and see the utility. But, I'm primarily a pistol kinda guy, and put up with the shotgun & barely tolerate rifle. Unless it's a lever!!!
And thanks also MrMurphy, I still love my old Speer "flying ashtrays"... just found 200 in a gunshop and snapped 'em up! And +1000 on the 1911. A GI issue 1911A1 is a good gun, super at it's job... back up when you're out of rifle ammo. Relatively easy to shoot, but recoil is a shock for some, controllability is an issue for others, and without good basic technique, function can be problematic. If you're all over on those four things, it becomes a GREAT gun. I like his attitude, 'cause I've told people that if you can't make the basic GI 1911 function reliably, putting custom stuff on it will probably make it WORSE!
Griff,
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No I ain't ready, but let's do it anyway!
Well, I used to carry a belt fed, but since they make that problematic for me now, I carry a rifle whenever I can, and a pistol 24/7 since you can't do everything with a rifle easily.
I can attest though that when an armed robber walks down a driveway with his hands full of flatscreen TV and suddenly finds an 870 and 3 .45s aimed at him, it really gets his attention.....
Griff wrote: All Greek. I didn't even like the sling that came on my M1. Except it came in handy in certain shooting positions... for carrying, not so much!
Theres quite a difference in the old school slings and todays slings. The ones used today keep the gun at the ready on your front side for the most part, you can drop the gun and it stays handy and ready, leaving your hands free for other tasks. Many variations on the theme, but the general idea is keeping the gun both tethered to you and ready to use without carrying the weight in your hands all the time.
Most of the difference is how the sling attaches or is oriented to the weapon. US issue weapons have traditionally had the attachment points on the bottom. This prevents the weapon from laying flat against the wearers body. An old school remedy on an A2 was to duct tape 550 cord to the stock and tie a loop to the front site base then attach the sling to those. The movie Blackhawk Down shows the Rangers doing exactly that. Standard M4 armorers upgrade is a side sling loop on the front. 3 point slings got really popular then faded away. They look really slick in a demo by a guy in a polo shirt and 511 pants. Unfortunately they catch all over everything when in full kit. And one particular brand issued to troops is so poorly made its a crime. Single points are cool guy stuff but have their own issues depending on type and attachment points and method of attachment. So everything has come around to an adjustable 2 point like the v-tac and blue force gear. I've seen a couple types of single point/2 point but not impressed enough yet to want one. My homemade v-tac type using a ruck strap is what I prefer at this point.
"He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance." Declaration of Independance, July 4, 1776 11B30
I saw one that quick changed length with one hand to allow switching sides you shoot from, then could simply change back shorter again as needed when swapping back to the right side.
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat." -Theodore Roosevelt-
Isnt it amazing how many people post without reading the thread?
Malamute wrote:I saw one that quick changed length with one hand to allow switching sides you shoot from, then could simply change back shorter again as needed when swapping back to the right side.
That is probably the Blue Force Gear.
"He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance." Declaration of Independance, July 4, 1776 11B30
Both the Blue Force Gear VCAS and the VTAC have that option. Both designed by Delta guys with similar experience that apparently at least in 1 direction, hate each other.
MrMurphy wrote:Both the Blue Force Gear VCAS and the VTAC have that option. Both designed by Delta guys with similar experience that apparently at least in 1 direction, hate each other.
True. However the Blue Force has a much broader range of adjustment without the dangling end, which even the Velcro loop on the crack doest really solve. It actually shortens the length of adjustment and creates a loop that is much more prone to snagging than the dangling end IMO.
Blaine I have a pic of my homemade sling using ruck strap I just can't seem to get it to load right now. If I have to I will email it to you
"He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance." Declaration of Independance, July 4, 1776 11B30
