Floppy trigger on Win M-94

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:19 am

Just bought my first Winchester levergun, a 1968 made M-94 in .30-30 (I have a handful of Marlins). I took it apart to clean and check it and put it back together. The trigger flops around loosly.

I didn't notice this before I took it apart, but it could have been that way. Seems to work properly though. Did I get something together wrong?
Glenn

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:32 am

Glenn wrote:Just bought my first Winchester levergun, a 1968 made M-94 in .30-30 (I have a handful of Marlins). I took it apart to clean and check it and put it back together. The trigger flops around loosly. I didn't notice this before I took it apart, but it could have been that way. Seems to work properly though. Did I get something together wrong?
Glenn

Glen,
You got it together right. Unfortunately Winchester changed the design enough in 1964 so that the trigger flops a bit. Ignore it. As long as it works properly it's really a non issue.

Joe

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:57 pm

Thanks Joe, I won't worry anymore.
Glenn

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Glen,
You got it together right. Unfortunately Winchester changed the design enough in 1964 so that the trigger flops a bit. Ignore it. As long as it works properly it's really a non issue.

Joe[/quote]

allen1980 · Post by **allen1980** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:19 pm

yes they all do this

Tycer · Post by **Tycer** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:18 pm

I don't like the ones that are floppy. Some post 64s are really bad. I shim those between the tang and trigger with a piece of 357 brass.

Old Time Hunter · Post by **Old Time Hunter** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:37 pm

Winchester spent $millions$$ getting those triggers to do that...er I meant made millions with that loose trigger, no, no that's not correct neither. Heck I guess that they produced millions like that. Must work I'd say.

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:06 pm

Tycer wrote:I don't like the ones that are floppy. Some post 64s are really bad. I shim those between the tang and trigger with a piece of 357 brass.

Hmmm, I might look into that. I have to take it apart again and replace the firing pin. One in it was broken.

Just got the new one.

Glenn

Rimfire McNutjob · Post by **Rimfire McNutjob** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:40 pm

Tycer wrote:I don't like the ones that are floppy. Some post 64s are really bad. I shim those between the tang and trigger with a piece of 357 brass.

Tycer invents Viagra for 94 triggers. Floppiness be gone.

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:10 am

Rimfire McNutjob wrote:
Tycer wrote:I don't like the ones that are floppy. Some post 64s are really bad. I shim those between the tang and trigger with a piece of 357 brass.
Tycer invents Viagra for 94 triggers. Floppiness be gone.

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Tycer · Post by **Tycer** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:35 am

Rimfire McNutjob wrote:
Tycer wrote:I don't like the ones that are floppy. Some post 64s are really bad. I shim those between the tang and trigger with a piece of 357 brass.
Tycer invents Viagra for 94 triggers. Floppiness be gone.

Patent Pending

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:00 am

If I understand it correctly, Tycer's fix will take up side-to-side slack in the trigger/sear between the lower tang "ears".

For that "front-to-rear" floppiness, I've seen one 94 where a small hole was drilled in the mating surfaces of trigger and sear. A small spring was inserted in order to keep forward pressure on the trigger. This spring pressure had to be overcome before the trigger could exert pressure on the sear, then release the sear from the full-cock notch in the hammer.

A very refined method, requiring precise alignment. A very light spring suffices.

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:19 pm

Hey Griff, that sorta sounds like the Happy Trigger they sell for the Marlins.

My curiosity is why does the fore and aft movement of the trigger bother some folks so much. I've had many Win 94s, (not as many as you maybe) and it just doesn't bother me. As long as the pull itself is not excessive I don't even notice it.

Joe

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:25 pm

J Miller wrote:My curiosity is why does the fore and aft movement of the trigger bother some folks so much. I've had many Win 94s, (not as many as you maybe) and it just doesn't bother me. As long as the pull itself is not excessive I don't even notice it.
Joe

One of the great mysteries of the Universe!

Sorta like why do folks move from A to B, because A is falling apart; then proceed to demand B, become more like A?

runfiverun · Post by **runfiverun** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:18 pm

a two stage trigger on a mod 94?
i think i would take the spring

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:41 pm

runfiverun wrote:a two stage trigger on a mod 94?
i think i would take the spring

It's not a two stage trigger. There is just enough looseness to the trigger sear unit that the trigger flops back and forth. When you put your finger on the trigger it's just one pull.

Joe

Lefty Dude · Post by **Lefty Dude** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:59 pm

My Rossi 92 has a better trigger than my 94.

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:07 am

Lefty Dude wrote:My Rossi 92 has a better trigger than my 94.

You should feel the 2.5 pound trigger pull I had a gunsmith put on my Mdl 94 Trapper back in 1980. Saaweeeeeet! The trigger is still a bit floppy, but if you wanna shoot nice 'lil groups, this one will do it.

Joe

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