Holographic type red dots

[gcs]

A week or so ago, there was a topic on this, and a picture of someones lever gun with such a sight on it, sorta a peep on steroids.
I keep thinking that this might be an option to replace my peep, and keeping the good handling quality instead of going with a scope.
So if anyone has any experience with using them, what brands are good, or good enough? my main concern is low light abilities, and reflection or glare on the glass.

[jmiller]

I had a Burris FastFire3 on my Win 1886 45-70 for a while and it worked great. I could shoot very small groups with it at my personal range of 114 yds. I've used them on handguns and they are an excellent sight....reasonable price, durable, adjustable dot intensity, and easy to see. Here's a pic:

[AJMD429]

Here's a thread I posted a ways back on them - http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... =1&t=28788

Here's some leverguns I made and use regularly with them - http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... 40#p583183

Hope these threads help (the second one links to others along the same line).

To give an idea, this group was shot by the 357 Mag levergun at 50 yards - - - at midnight...!!!

[Pete44ru]

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I've been using very small reflex (red dot) sights, ever since Tasco introduced their Optima (about 15 years ago), and last week bought 2 Bushnell reflex sights similar to the Dr.Optic (below) @ a local WallyWorld for $50 each, because they had lost the boxes.




Most reflex sights are ready to mount to a Weaver-type scope base; so installing one on a Marlin 94/336 is a no-brainer; and I've fitted one to the top of a Winchester 94's bolt via the simple expedient of D/T two 6-48 holes atop the rear half of the bolt, before attaching one half of a set (2) Weaver scope mount bases there.

I chose Weaver bases that had concave undersides that were about the same contour as the Winchester 94 bolt top; co-incidentally bases that fit a Browning BAR.

When zeroed, since the reflex sights are parallax-free, there's no need to fret if a red dot isn't centered in the sight's window - just place the dot "on target", and a bullet hole will appear wherever the dot was when the rifle was fired.


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[jeepnik]

There are smaller ones these days, but this one works wonderfully.

They are amazingly fast and don't have any parallax issues.

[gcs]

Thanks for the responses, I think this is how I'm going to go. While I don't have a problem with a scope, it does make handling a bit more of a pain, and the current peep setup, which has worked perfectly over 30 years, is getting harder to "see", I don't know, something about getting old.
I'm usually walking and still hunting. If I parked myself in a tree, I'd just scope it.

[Blaine]

When these first came out, there were issues about using in the rain. Smeared, runny sight pictures....How about now-a-days?
I have a Burris Speed Dot that I've used on several different handguns/rifles....love it....

[Nate Kiowa Jones]

I prefer the Burris FastFire II with the 3moa dot. But, I mount them directly to the barrel. If you mount them on a rail they tend to be too high for a decent cheekweld.

[jeepnik]

When these first came out, there were issues about using in the rain. Smeared, runny sight pictures....How about now-a-days?
I have a Burris Speed Dot that I've used on several different handguns/rifles....love it....

No worse than rain on a scope.

[David]

I tried several for a while they are just not for me, it's amazing how good just a cheap tasco is anymore and I don't that much about it.

Just me maybe.

[Paladin]

The group under the 7 (Right side) is three rounds of Hornady 45-70 325 gr Leverevolution , the group on the 7 (Bottom) was three rounds of 45-70+P 350 gr Bear Loads, and the three round group under the 8 was HSM 45-70 +P 430 gr RNFP Gas Check Bear Load (all at 50 yards with the Aimpoint). I then moved the target to 100 yards and shot the rounds at the Bulls-eye hitting near 7 (top) adjusting down with the 430 gr RNFP Gas Check loads before I changed targets. The smaller 30 cal holes are 5 round groups with a 308 AR-10 with and with out suppressor at 100 (suppressor caused the lower group).

Nate Kiowa Jones was nice enough to adjust two Rossies for me, my .45 LC (top) and my wife's .357 (third form the top). My .44 Marlin with the Ziess (#2 from the top) and my Co-Pilot .457WWG with the Aimpoint Patrol Optic (Bottom, and top photo). The Aimpoint and light on the Co-Pilot is a new addition after a brown bear problem in Alaska last month (will post Explanation). All the red dots are two MOA the smallest dots I could find.

[OldWin]

I have a FFIII that I like. You don't need to remove the sight to change batteries with the III.

If you don't mind spending a "little" more, the Aimpoint micro's are the bees knees. I have two of them and have never regret spending the coin. Tiny, tough, and five years on a CR2032.