POLITICS - very interesting facts about illegal aliens

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POLITICS - very interesting facts about illegal aliens

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This is unbelievable. I knew it was a lot but never thought this much. And we have a recession?
WHAT COSTS MORE PER YEAR THAN THE IRAQ WAR? You guessed it!!!
Illegal Aliens Cause Massive Cuts For US Seniors December 4, 2007
I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of the following facts:
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77
2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... ldt.0.html
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html
7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare and Social Services by the American taxpayers. http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two-and-a-half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report. http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period." http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/ ... tation.pdf
13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States". http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

Total cost is a whooping... $338.3 BILLION A YEAR!!!
If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message, but on the other hand, if it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, then forward it.
Snopes is provided for doubters: http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigrat ... merica.asp

SEND THIS TO ALL YOU KNOW. THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF THE UNITED STATES NEEDS TO KNOW THIS INFORMATION, UNLESS THEY DON'T MIND SHARING THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY WITH FOREIGN WORKERS WHO DIDN'T PAY A DIME !
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Sorry for the off topic rant but it just made me mad.
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Post by Charles »

Always be careful of a post that has it's own Snopes link. This particular link leads you to Bank of American issuing cedit cards to illegal aliens does not address the content of the post.

A search of Snopes on "cost of illegal aliens" turns up several urban legends of a smaller scale and these are complication of opinion and non varifiable sources.

I have no doubt that there some large costs associated with illegal aliens, but this particular post is very, very suspect in it's conclusions and totals.

Ah yes..it you read it on the Internet, it must be true.
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Post by Grizz »

Thanks for the posts with the references for varification. Why question snopes when all the information is verifiable. And who is snopes to say what truth is. This sounds true, that's good enough for me. It's all temporal stuff and the odds of it being true are much higher than the odds that it's not true.

True enough...

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OK Grizz... Live you life by whatever standards you choose. In my book... "sound true"... is not enough. Because something sound appealing and we want it to be true, does not make it true. The only thing that makes it true is varifiable facts and not some bloger opinions or made up statistics.

In life we are called upon to make decisions and to take actions. IMHO the truth is the only basis on which to do those things. Attractive lies or distorted facts just won't cut it.

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Charles wrote:OK Grizz... Live you life by whatever standards you choose. In my book... "sound true"... is not enough. Because something sound appealing and we want it to be true, does not make it true. The only thing that makes it true is varifiable facts and not some bloger opinions or made up statistics.

In life we are called upon to make decisions and to take actions. IMHO the truth is the only basis on which to do those things. Attractive lies or distorted facts just won't cut it.

"Know the truth and it will set you free"
Hey there ya go Charles, misquoting scripture out of context. Confusing temporal with eternal. And judging in unscriptural ways again.

If you think the numbers that are quoted above are wrong then the ball is in your court and it's up to you to produce actual counter evidence with sources to gainsay the numbers you dislike.

So far you've refused to vett the information and chosen to attack my position, while I enlisted a researcher to check out the information and affirm that it looks to be accurate.

If you want anyone to believe you it's up to you to produce better, more trustworthy information. Not to attack me.

Do I detect a strain of anti-flockism in your attitude dude?
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You'll find a diversified group of opinions here concerning this matter. The issue of illegals has been brought up with no clear "solution" that all will agree on. Many suggestions have been put before the board and seem to drift away in the wind like loose leaves. This is one of those topics that seem to have this house divided.

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Yeah, I guess we're divided into a couple of camps: those who don't want the illegal aliens to cost Americans hundreds of billions of dollars, and those who do.
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Well, the immigrant pot is really boiling, locally. Demonstrators storming the State House, religious leaders of all denominations loudly decrying the turn of events publicly, and every speech-accented individual that can do so, get in front of some media boob's camera or microphone to spout off.

Why ?

A few days ago, the Governor set forth an executive order, since the Federal Government wasn't taking any action, to all state agencies to comb through their records and verify that no illegal aliens were employed by the state, that none are receiving public assistance (welfare, food stamps, daycare, etc), and that the State Police work with INS to deport any and all illegals found within the state.

It sounds like he's enforcing the existing laws, to me. It even has a familiar ring to it ! :mrgreen:
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This post is definitely suspect, all of the links are bogus or have nothing to do with what they are linked to, including the "check" link to Snopes.
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Here is the real cost of illegals...try putting a price tag on this. It occurred in Delavan, WI back last June.

"The dead were identified this morning as: Nicole Marie McAffee, 19; her twin infant sons, Argenis and Isaiah Analco; her sister Ashley Lynn Huerta, 21, and Huerta's friend Vanessa Iverson, 19. All are believed to have been shot and killed by Amborosio Analco, 23"

According to online Wisconsin court records, Analco had only minor brushes with law enforcement, including tickets for speeding in 2002, driving with a suspended license in 2005, and driving without a valid license in 2006. In 2005 he was the subject of a child support action initiated by McAffee in Walworth County.

In that case, a Walworth County judge on March 16 ordered but stayed a six-month jail sentence for Analco for failing to pay child support. He was ordered to pay $442 per month for all three children but owed about $4,100 in birth expenses for Jasmine, according to court records.

Analco's first name is spelled three different ways in court records - Ambrosio, Argenis and Aguenis.

Not suprising, he is also an ILLEGAL ALIEN!!!!

So how do you bring back even one of those lives????? or do we sacrifice more of our citizens for the benefit of more illegal aliens?
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