Pre 64 M94 carrier question
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Pre 64 M94 carrier question
Not long ago I picked up a 1953 model 94 in 30-30. When I flip the lever open, I really have to pop/snap it hard for the carrier to bring the next round up. If I work the action slow, carrier doesn't rise, it really needs that last little 'snap'. Typical or does some polishing need to be done? I do have a 1967 Canadian that brings the shell up much easier. I don't believe this rifle has been shot a lot so perhaps just putting more rounds though it will slick it up? Any thoughts on this would be appreciated!
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Re: Pre 64 M94 carrier question
My 1920's Winny doesn't need any extra snap to raise the carrier. You have to make sure you move the lever completely forward but no extra force is needed. My old girl has seen plenty of use though.
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Re: Pre 64 M94 carrier question
I have one that was made in 49 & sounds like yours & mine are twins
I just lever that one a little faster & harder, have some older & some newer
the slickest is a 375 Big Bore
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I just lever that one a little faster & harder, have some older & some newer
the slickest is a 375 Big Bore
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Re: Pre 64 M94 carrier question
Take it apart, clean and oil it. Then go shoot it and break it in. My 1950 was like that when I first got it. An old rifle with near no use on it. As I've handled it, worked the action, and shot it, it's gradually easing up.
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Re: Pre 64 M94 carrier question
My '51 doesn't do that.
I'd be very much inclined to say DON'T POLISH ANYTHING, since peoples' definition of the term can vary from a very light stoning (correct use of the term in this context) to heavy-handed material removal & dimensional/tolerance alteration with a Dremel tool, and they're no longer manufacturing parts for those guns.
Clean it thoroughly (without removing the cartridge guides), and either live with the results or have a qualified gunsmith check it out.
Denis
I'd be very much inclined to say DON'T POLISH ANYTHING, since peoples' definition of the term can vary from a very light stoning (correct use of the term in this context) to heavy-handed material removal & dimensional/tolerance alteration with a Dremel tool, and they're no longer manufacturing parts for those guns.
Clean it thoroughly (without removing the cartridge guides), and either live with the results or have a qualified gunsmith check it out.
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Re: Pre 64 M94 carrier question
DPris wrote:My '51 doesn't do that.
I'd be very much inclined to say DON'T POLISH ANYTHING, since peoples' definition of the term can vary from a very light stoning (correct use of the term in this context) to heavy-handed material removal & dimensional/tolerance alteration with a Dremel tool, and they're no longer manufacturing parts for those guns.
Clean it thoroughly (without removing the cartridge guides), and either live with the results or have a qualified gunsmith check it out.
Denis
Good advice. I may add that you can spray a mess of Rem-oil in there and give it a whirl.----6
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Re: Pre 64 M94 carrier question
My 1950 low round rifle doesn't do it. However this rifle likes a snappy full motion levering. There seems a sweet spot where it operates the smoothest with a little snap. I take mine out and work the action through 25 or 30 levers regularly to break it in. It worked wonders on my Marlin 444 years ago.
The 94s charm, it is a marvellous mysterious mechanical machine. All levers and linkages and timing, with parts and cartridges lifting to the top, at the same time as the guts drop out the bottom when the lever sweeps forward!!! All with the precision of hand operated devices from its era. Just watching it work is a treat. Almost as much as the treat of handling it.
The 94s charm, it is a marvellous mysterious mechanical machine. All levers and linkages and timing, with parts and cartridges lifting to the top, at the same time as the guts drop out the bottom when the lever sweeps forward!!! All with the precision of hand operated devices from its era. Just watching it work is a treat. Almost as much as the treat of handling it.
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Re: Pre 64 M94 carrier question
Like Six said. Oil it and work it a few times (like maybe 50-100 times or more) Lots of those old shooters haven't been cleaned and oiled since they left the hardware store rack.
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Re: Pre 64 M94 carrier question
Six, if'n you spray REM oil into that Winchester, it'll melt down like the wicked witch of the west...
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Re: Pre 64 M94 carrier question
Lightly oil. The lifter is operated by the tab on the top of it via the bolt moving back and forth. Check to make sure there's no burrs on the tab, or something in the slot of the bolt that's interfering with the lifter... (actual nomenclature is "carrier"). The carrier has to overcome the spring that snaps it back down as the bolt is retracted. Very likely that your spring is heavier than others... ergo... a last "snap" of the lever to get that bolt the last bit back to where the carrier will spring up.J Miller wrote:Take it apart, clean and oil it.
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Re: Pre 64 M94 carrier question
I'll do some cleaning on it, add a bit of oil and keep working the action! Tough duty!
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