Finally joined the EVIL BLACK RIFLE CLUB!
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Finally joined the EVIL BLACK RIFLE CLUB!
Well, I am half way there anyways. I ordered a Palmetto State Arms Lower Receiver with the Premium Classic Lower Build Kit and it arrived in the mail today on (9/11). It took me about an hour to build the complete lower. I am still on the fence on which barreled upper receiver I want to put on it. Depending on which version I go with, I expect to complete the basic build for less than $600. I will be sure to post pics once complete.
September is National Preparedness Month, I guess you could say this is my version of Build a KIT!
September is National Preparedness Month, I guess you could say this is my version of Build a KIT!
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Re: Finally joined the EVIL BLACK RIFLE CLUB!
Have you checked out ballistic info on the 6.8? Looks nice to me and would be on top of list. I sure like that price you mentioned, sounds like your on the right track.
Re: Finally joined the EVIL BLACK RIFLE CLUB!
I think you'll like it. I used a Spike's Tactical lower, but ordered the lower parts kit and upper assembly from Palmetto State. I am very pleased with the quality of what I received. I ordered the M-16 bolt and bolt carrier group for mine instead of the one designed for the AR-15. Practically it doesn't really make a difference for most shooters, but the M-16 bolt is made to withstand full auto fire, or at least that's what I was led to believe. I'm far from an expert. I really don't shoot it that much because I don't really care for semi autos. I bought it because I wanted a good, reliable battle rifle.
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Re: Finally joined the EVIL BLACK RIFLE CLUB!
I'd do the 6.5 Grendel over the 6.8. It does everything the 6.8 was designed to do and has much better long-range performance as well.octagon wrote:Have you checked out ballistic info on the 6.8? Looks nice to me and would be on top of list. I sure like that price you mentioned, sounds like your on the right track.
Horsesoldier, PM or email me if you like with the details of what you are thinking about for the upper, and I may be able to give some suggestions or recommend sources for parts, or who to avoid.
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Re: Finally joined the EVIL BLACK RIFLE CLUB!
I'll have to check it ot 7.62, thanks.
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Re: Finally joined the EVIL BLACK RIFLE CLUB!
I gotta say 7.62 was VERY helpful when I was putting my last AR together. Listen to the man he knows what he is talking about. Tom
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Re: Finally joined the EVIL BLACK RIFLE CLUB!
Black rifles are not evil. AR type of rifles are not evil. They are just UGLY!
I guess that Forrest Extravasate was right, ugly is as ugly does. Wait! Wasn't that "Gump"? I may have mis-heard.
I guess that Forrest Extravasate was right, ugly is as ugly does. Wait! Wasn't that "Gump"? I may have mis-heard.
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Re: Finally joined the EVIL BLACK RIFLE CLUB!
Funny, I just sold the only AR-15 I've ever owned
They're just not my thing, though I can't fault anyone for liking them - they go bang like most everything else.
They're just not my thing, though I can't fault anyone for liking them - they go bang like most everything else.
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Re: Finally joined the EVIL BLACK RIFLE CLUB!
Find myself wanting maybe a couple of AR-15s. I have a FAL because I like the .308 but it is HEAVY! 12 pounds 4 ounces with a loaded magazine and 2.75X Redfield.
7.62, would you please write us up your recommendations as to what to buy? I think I would like 20" bbl with 1in7 or 8 twist and the 5.56 chamber or maybe the 223 W?? something that is supposed to be good for both rounds. I'm sure I want the telescoping stock and full floating handguard. What trigger if I want a better one?
7.62, would you please write us up your recommendations as to what to buy? I think I would like 20" bbl with 1in7 or 8 twist and the 5.56 chamber or maybe the 223 W?? something that is supposed to be good for both rounds. I'm sure I want the telescoping stock and full floating handguard. What trigger if I want a better one?
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Re: Finally joined the EVIL BLACK RIFLE CLUB!
Not quite light as a feather, and with a side lever, but I sure like this .308...W/Leupold Scout Scope, the rail is built in to the rifle.M. M. Wright wrote:Find myself wanting maybe a couple of AR-15s. I have a FAL because I like the .308 but it is HEAVY! 12 pounds 4 ounces with a loaded magazine and 2.75X Redfield.
7.62, would you please write us up your recommendations as to what to buy? I think I would like 20" bbl with 1in7 or 8 twist and the 5.56 chamber or maybe the 223 W?? something that is supposed to be good for both rounds. I'm sure I want the telescoping stock and full floating handguard. What trigger if I want a better one?
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Re: Finally joined the EVIL BLACK RIFLE CLUB!
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Re: Finally joined the EVIL BLACK RIFLE CLUB!
That was the way I looked at it when I sold my Bushy M4gery. Nice gun. Accurate. Had all of the Plusses & Minuses I have come to expect from the platform. But essentially, I found it BORING.92&94 wrote:Funny, I just sold the only AR-15 I've ever owned
They're just not my thing, though I can't fault anyone for liking them - they go bang like most everything else.
And I really didn't want/need an intermediate caliber carbine.
So I sold my Black Rifle and went to Phosphate Green with Wood Furniture... and longer range camabilities.
Heavier? Yep. But it has that certain, je ne sais quoi, from a gun that looks like it could have been used to fight commies in Rhodesia...
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מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
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מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
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Re: Finally joined the EVIL BLACK RIFLE CLUB!
An exquisite phrase.....je ne sais quoi
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Re: Finally joined the EVIL BLACK RIFLE CLUB!
Definitely a great rifle. I had the privilege of shooting them several times during unit organizational days with our German Partnership Unit while I was stationed in Germany.
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That's how I fell in love with the platform. When I was assigned to Liaise with our FRG counterparts in Fulda, I was "issued" a G3 Para for the duration.horsesoldier03 wrote:Definitely a great rifle. I had the privilege of shooting them several times during unit organizational days with our German Partnership Unit while I was stationed in Germany.
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מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
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Re: Finally joined the EVIL BLACK RIFLE CLUB!
BlaineG wrote:An exquisite phrase.....je ne sais quoi
i don't know what........it means
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Re: Finally joined the EVIL BLACK RIFLE CLUB!
Don't worry. Most of us are like you and are not concerned with having the Savoir Faire to understand. Courtly manners are just not of much concern for me.hfcable wrote:BlaineG wrote:An exquisite phrase.....je ne sais quoi
i don't know what........it means
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Re: Finally joined the EVIL BLACK RIFLE CLUB!
per Dictionary.com
an indefinable, elusive quality, especially a pleasing one:
She has a certainje ne sais quoi that charms everybody.
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i mighta been kidding............ but i don't know whathfcable wrote:BlaineG wrote:An exquisite phrase.....je ne sais quoi
i don't know what........it means
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- horsesoldier03
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Re: Finally joined the EVIL BLACK RIFLE CLUB!
I ordered the final parts to complete my EBR build today. I was having a diffucult decision deciding exactly what barrel I wanted to go with. I ended up getting the PSA Premium M4A1 complete upper. I know the heavy barrel is overkill on an M4 without full auto capabilies but I figure the extra 4 oz wont kill me. Will post pics when if finally makes it in.
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Re: Finally joined the EVIL BLACK RIFLE CLUB!
I always associated the FAL with Rhodesia moreso than the G3, but i assume bot platforms got a lot of actionOld Ironsights wrote:[
Heavier? Yep. But it has that certain, je ne sais quoi, from a gun that looks like it could have been used to fight commies in Rhodesia...
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They preferred the FAL in Rhodesia but later on, they became hard to come by, even getting them from the SADF.
The G-3 was more available, I believe through the Portugeuse. The G-3 is a solid rifle, but I've always found the FAL easier to shoot well, and a bit more accurate. Better trigger helps.
The G-3 was more available, I believe through the Portugeuse. The G-3 is a solid rifle, but I've always found the FAL easier to shoot well, and a bit more accurate. Better trigger helps.
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Re: Finally joined the EVIL BLACK RIFLE CLUB!
Meanwhile, Back to the OP.
I just built my first using a Stag Arms lower, DPMS parts kit and the stock off my Colt Sporter LW.
Watched a youtube video to see what parts/ springs go where and I got it together. Tested it with my Colt Upper and ran perfectly. Except the trigger sucks!! Have to fix that.
Going to put a 80's style 20" A2 upper on it for my US mil collection.
Have plans for three more. One Zombie style 9mm Carbine, one long range HB rifle and one VN style rifle with the triangular hand guards ( again for my US Mil collection).
jb
I just built my first using a Stag Arms lower, DPMS parts kit and the stock off my Colt Sporter LW.
Watched a youtube video to see what parts/ springs go where and I got it together. Tested it with my Colt Upper and ran perfectly. Except the trigger sucks!! Have to fix that.
Going to put a 80's style 20" A2 upper on it for my US mil collection.
Have plans for three more. One Zombie style 9mm Carbine, one long range HB rifle and one VN style rifle with the triangular hand guards ( again for my US Mil collection).
jb
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Re: Finally joined the EVIL BLACK RIFLE CLUB!
I have always been on the fence trying to decide if I wanted an AR variant. I finally decided to go through with it and so far it has gone well. I was shocked on the outcome of the trigger on my lower. It is a little heavy but there is zero creep or over travel. Once I get a significant round count down range, I will consider doing a trigger job. I can definitely see other builds in my future.
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Both platforms were used a lot.Streetstar wrote:I always associated the FAL with Rhodesia moreso than the G3, but i assume bot platforms got a lot of actionOld Ironsights wrote:[
Heavier? Yep. But it has that certain, je ne sais quoi, from a gun that looks like it could have been used to fight commies in Rhodesia...
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Portugal had a FMP/G3 plant in Mozambique before they pulled out.
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Re: Finally joined the EVIL BLACK RIFLE CLUB!
Well I finally managed to get a pic as well as go and do some shooting. As you see, nothing fancy, the only difference between it and any other AR is this one is mine. I did have 1 FTF on the 2nd round, over 100 rounds were fired. Unfortunately I still have not chosen what OPTIC I will go with. Right now I have a cheap REDDOT that did manage to get the job done for the time being. I dont have a pic of the target, but I did manage to place 25 rounds in the head (2" in diameter) at 50 yrds.
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Re: Finally joined the EVIL BLACK RIFLE CLUB!
My favorite optic:
For price, this one can't be beat. I have been really impressed:
(ignore the magnifier)
For price, this one can't be beat. I have been really impressed:
(ignore the magnifier)
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Thanks for the suggestion. What quad rail (forearm) is pictured?
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