JFK - Ballistic evidence - 1 shooter

[cshold]

I have a question that I'm actually surprised hasn't been already asked.
Why is this thread not in the political section

[w30wcf]

- 3 fired shell casings next to Oswalds Carcano rifle
- Connally bullet matched to the Carcano
- Only way to Connally's back is through Kennedy (coat and shirt bunched up) bullet exited through the collar
- bullet fragments from Kennedy's head matched to ammunition from Carcano

Happy Thanksgiving!
w30wcf

And.........where is the ballistic evidence of any another rifle being used other than the 6.5 Carcano(?)....... oh, that's right......there isn't any.......

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!
w30wcf

[Old Savage]

John Lattimer (author) was able to look at the xrays taken of Kennedy at autopsy and made sketches of them which are in the book. The bullet that hit Kennedy in the back and then entered Connally, definitely shows a downward track according to the xray. It definitely shows the bullet was fired from behind and at a elevated position. Kennedy's elbows flew up due to the trauma to the spine by the close proximity of the bullet impact.

If this is indeed true they have A very serious problem with their narrative because they claim that the throat wound is an exit and that is not a downward trajectory from the back wound. If they are saying there is a wound in the neck above the back then.... We have another bullet and there are too many bullets. The single bullet "theory" is predicated on an upward trajectory from the back through the throat and into Connally.

Let this post not preclude a Happy Thanksgiving.

Sorry Griff, Casa pushed it to 6 pages.

[Todd1700]

Savage the answers about the supposed discrepancy in the description of the wounds have long been known. Read the link below. Bullet wounds are addressed about half way down the page.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/sbt.htm

I work in an ER at a hospital. I have for 17 years. The description of wounds from one doctor to another or even from a doctors initial assessment to a later one can vary quite a bit. It doesn't have anything to do with conspiracies. It just means that humans are fallible and make errors. If you read the info in the link I posted all this nonsense about the wounds being wrong for a shooter to the rear and above are explained. At this point you have to just "WANT" to believe this other nonsense.

[Old Savage]

Todd, I am with you on your interesting points until you get to the pronouncements. I have read and written reports for 35 years. From the point of view the pronouncements, I might say that if you still believe the WC report, you must just want too. Did you just ignore the point about the downward trajectory to the throat wound. That is as opposed to wound at about T5. That is more than you can cover with a reporting discrepancy. There are pictures showing more than a dozen Parkland people showing a back/right blowout in the head. The Zapruder film seems to show a massive front right blowout yet the autopsy photos show no such thing. In light of just this you must just want to believe.

Still the experience you have should be enlightening. My only ER experience is as a patient, however, we did see a presentation by a coroner of gunshots and suicides involving head wounds, pretty nasty stuff.

[Todd1700]

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/medical.htm

Lots more information for you.

[Old Savage]

"Evidence" for many of the sides of the discussion there. Where is evidence for a bullet strike around C5 for a downward path to the throat as per X-rays Latimer claims to have derived drawings from? Which leaves the question about what to do with the T5 ish back wound as demonstrated by the Shirt and photo/drawings if there was a posterior cervical strike.

[w30wcf]

Todd1700,
Welcome to the forum. Thank you for the links.

This has been an interesting discussion and exchange of ideas but for me, the more I think about it, it could very well be that perhaps the conspiracy, or at least a part of it is testimony to the large wound in the back of Kennedy's head which would put the suspicion on someone else other than Oswald, who, based on the ballistic evidence is the true assassin.

There have been a number of references to the small entrance wound in the back of Kennedy's head which is in accordance with the ballistic evidence and a bullet fired from the 6.5 Carcano.

With reference to the bullet hole location in Kennedy's shirt and coat - both were bunched up from waving to the crowd thus the bullet hole would show at a lower location on both. There was no bullet hole in the upper part of the seat to substantiate a lower hit.

From the Dr. John Lattimer book.....
Page 242 - How the Tip Of The Presidents Vertebra Was Struck
“It seemed obvious on our first inspection in 1972 that bullet 399 hit the back of the low portion of Kennedy's neck and grazed the tip of the transverse process of one of the lower cervical or, perhaps the first upper thoracic vertebra as in this model. ("Tiny fragments of bone are visible on the xray of his neck, with some other areas of distortion.)
It then exited with a wobble, starting to tumble end over end as a result of traversing the neck. It made a hole ½” long , in an up and down direction, in the front of his shirt, just at the lower edge of his collar band and grazed his necktie knot, leaving a bloodstained nick in the cloth of the tie.”

Page 264 – Entrance Wound (Connally) Shown Three CM Long In Vertical Axis In part is read ….. “Dr. Shaw, the chest surgeon stated that the wound in Connally’s back was not a puncture wound, but was elongated indicating that there was some tumbling.”
It would seem that all the various wounds in Governor Connally were almost undeniably made by the same tumbling bullet, which first traversed his chest then his right wrist, and finally embedded itself in his leg, being stopped by the femur after completing a 180 degree turn. which caused it to be traveling backward as it struck his leg.”

We are all left to our own conclusions and for me the ballistic evidence trumps anything else.
As I said, it has been an interesting sharing of thoughts & ideas...........

w30wcf

[Buck Elliott]

I hereby attest and affirm, truthfully and unequivocally, without malice or fear of prosecution, that I DID NOT SHOOT PRESIDENT KENNEDY, or Gov. Connally, and have no first-hand knowledge of the conditions or circumstances pertaining to or surrounding that crime..

[Old Ironsights]

I hereby attest and affirm, truthfully and unequivocally, without malice or fear of prosecution, that I DID NOT SHOOT PRESIDENT KENNEDY, or Gov. Connally, and have no first-hand knowledge of the conditions or circumstances pertaining to or surrounding that crime..

Hmmm... methinks thou doth protest too much. Time for another Investigation Boys!

[SJPrice]

I hereby attest and affirm, truthfully and unequivocally, without malice or fear of prosecution, that I DID NOT SHOOT PRESIDENT KENNEDY, or Gov. Connally, and have no first-hand knowledge of the conditions or circumstances pertaining to or surrounding that crime..

Okay, but can you prove where you were when Jack Ruby allegedly shot Oswald?

[Mescalero]

elementary school, 5th grade