Question for Nate Kiowa Jones

Don McDowell · Post by **Don McDowell** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:35 pm

Steve (or anybody else with experience) Would it be feasible to rebarrel one of the 92 clones to 32 H&R?
Just can't bring myself to pay over 600$ for one of the Marlins

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:41 pm

Don McDowell wrote:Steve (or anybody else with experience) Would it be feasible to rebarrel one of the 92 clones to 32 H&R?
Just can't bring myself to pay over 600$ for one of the Marlins

Better, rechamber it to .327 Federal and shoot the .32 H&R too...

Post by **Hobie** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:51 pm

Hey Don. I asked him about the .32-20 one time. Said that was some work. I think OI's idea about the .327 Federal is a good 'un. I hear you about the price of one of those Marlins...

Don McDowell · Post by **Don McDowell** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:43 pm

OI I just can't get worked up about the 327. I can't imagine the earbusting muzzleblast from that thing being very user friendly.

Hobie if you look and dig and scrounge EMF had a small run of those 92's in 32-20 some years back, surely there'll be some start to surface one of these days.

See I'm thinkin" Carol" needs a 32 H&R rifle to go along with her cute lil single six.

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:59 pm

Can't be any worse than the .357... & it makes the gun more versatile.

Pete44ru · Post by **Pete44ru** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:38 pm

I think the .32 H&R casing might be too small for the action innards.

IIRC, the original .25-20 & .32-20 actions had thicker guides, so those smaller cartridges could feed - along with a smaller feed hole bored through the front of the receiver for the mag tube.

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:52 pm

Pete44ru wrote:I think the .32 H&R casing might be too small for the action innards.

IIRC, the original .25-20 & .32-20 actions had thicker guides, so those smaller cartridges could feed - along with a smaller feed hole bored through the front of the receiver for the mag tube.

Correct,
Rebarreling is not a problem but the 92's in 25-20 and 32-20 have special clearance cuts to the bolt so it will pass through the guides. To convert one to 357 the guides have to be opened up a bit even though the 32-20 and the 25-20 rims are really close to 38-357.
So, because the 32 H&H rims are much smaller, the guides would have to be much closer and with them that close the bolt (the part that houses the ejector) will be too wide to pass through.

Early on Taylors advertised that 32 H&R would be available from Armi Sport but it appears that it never happen and I'm sure it was for the reason above. I'm betting it will never be available even in 32-20 for the same reason.

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:56 pm

Don McDowell wrote:OI I just can't get worked up about the 327. I can't imagine the earbusting muzzleblast from that thing being very user friendly.

Hobie if you look and dig and scrounge EMF had a small run of those 92's in 32-20 some years back, surely there'll be some start to surface one of these days.

See I'm thinkin" Carol" needs a 32 H&R rifle to go along with her cute lil single six.

Don,
Those were advertised back when EMF was importing the ASM 92's but they were never made. They did make a few 357m but the majority were 45lc and 44-40. I have two of the 44-40's myself.

I gave up looking for a decent 32-20 win carbine and converted this Rossi to 32-20. Lots of work getting it to run right.

Don McDowell · Post by **Don McDowell** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:25 pm

Thanks for the info Steve. Guess I'll just have to hope to find one of those Marlins at a decent price one of these days.
Probably the most ignorant gun stunt I ever pulled was letting go of the 1913 made model P and the 1912 made 92 that was it's companion.

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:22 am

Don,
Whydontcha just look for a decent 92 in 32-20. With the right loads it's right up there even with this new 327. Plus, I think it feels/balances better than the Marlin. The marlin with it's twin inner and out mag tube and no loading gate just feels too front heavy even for a 20" gun. I have a Gunsmith friend that even went so far as to put a 20" round barrel on one for the same reason.

Pete44ru · Post by **Pete44ru** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:24 am

You can alway put in a bid on this & hope you get it low.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... m=94877795

Post by **Hobie** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:52 am

Pete44ru wrote:You can alway put in a bid on this & hope you get it low.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... m=94877795

MarlinMan93,

What do you think of that gun? How much might it cost to get it running right?

Don McDowell · Post by **Don McDowell** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:10 am

Steve I agree anything winchester built is a better handling gun than the Marlins of today.
A 92 in 32wcf would be nice as I'm still set up for that. But mostly was looking/thinking about a companion piece for the Baby vaquero.
This 327 thing doesn't even interest me, like you said the 32-20 is capable of anything the new kids doing, reloading might be easier than the 32wcf due to the straight case, but other than that it doesn't hold much interest for me.

blackfly · Post by **blackfly** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:49 am

So what would someone be looking at to take an old 92 from 32-20 to .357 mag?
I have one that's been worked on a lot through the years by the looks of it and it might be a candidate for such a project. If not the old girl is pretty much a parts piece.
Would much rather see it shoot again.

blackfly

blackfly · Post by **blackfly** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:53 am

Well, maybe not.

blackfly

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:07 pm

blackfly wrote:So what would someone be looking at to take an old 92 from 32-20 to .357 mag?
I have one that's been worked on a lot through the years by the looks of it and it might be a candidate for such a project. If not the old girl is pretty much a parts piece.
Would much rather see it shoot again.

blackfly

If the action is tight, sure it can be converted but without the gun in hand it would be hard to put a price on it. I would say anywhere from $400 for rebore and timing/action work to $700 if parts are needed.

blackfly · Post by **blackfly** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:37 am

Kiowa, thanks for the reply.
I guess I can see why there arenâ€™t many swapped over nowadays.
Iâ€™m afraid that this old girl is anything but tight and may actually be the first â€œpartsâ€

kentdep · Post by **kentdep** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:18 pm

Don McDowell wrote:Steve I agree anything winchester built is a better handling gun than the Marlins of today.

I know this isn't a SASS/leverguns site but....

http://www.jspublications.net/records/records.html

Check out this page and scroll down to where Deuce Stevens world record with a rifle is located and watch the video. Tell me what kind of rifle he is shooting.

Jay

Don McDowell · Post by **Don McDowell** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:15 pm

kentdep wrote:
Don McDowell wrote:Steve I agree anything winchester built is a better handling gun than the Marlins of today.
I know this isn't a SASS/leverguns site but....

http://www.jspublications.net/records/records.html

Check out this page and scroll down to where Deuce Stevens world record with a rifle is located and watch the video. Tell me what kind of rifle he is shooting.

Jay

Could give a rip less what some CAS shooter does with a tricked out gamer gun.
My concern with leverguns goes back better part of a half century, my preferences are based in actual experience.

Marlins are alright, but they're no Winchester.

and while they'll do in a pinch such as when a Winchester isn't available, they're not my first choice.

So thats why I wanted to know if it was feasable or had any one converted a 92 clone to 32 H&R

kentdep · Post by **kentdep** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:32 am

I have to LOL too. CAS, super modified guns are way different than stock out of the box guns.

You are absolutely correct.

I wish I could lay my hands on a '92 in .32 H&R also. I love that caliber.

Jay

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